Just diagnosed with ILC

michele54
michele54 Member Posts: 152

I posted this in another area and a couple women suggested I repost here.  It's official - test results are back and it's ILC.  Don't know all the details yet - this was just from the phone call.  Meeting with my b/s tomorrow.  She still wants an MRI to get more info but is meeting with me to "put my mind at ease".  Don't think that's going to be possible though.  The pathologist said something about the mass being large or advanced or something like that - my mind was spinning at this point.  The good thing was the didn't see any lymph involvement but this was just from the u/s.  I don't know how it got this big - I swear it wasn't there long.  I just noticed some swelling a couple months ago but thought it was because I just started menopause (age 55 yesterday - UGH what a birthday present) -  the changes seemed to be hormonal.  The other thing was there were microcalcifications.  I am definitely freaking out here.  Any words of wisdom before I lose what little mind I have left?

 TIA

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  • gandl
    gandl Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2009

    Hi TIA,  I'm 55 also and a week from today it will be one year since I was diagnosed with ILC.  I clearly remember how that phone call with the diagnosis made me feel.  I guess I would tell you to try not to panic, there are lots of ILC survivors here who can answer your questions and give you support.  I had microcalcifications also.  I think that your meeting with the breast surgeon will at least give you some solid information about your options, which is helpful.  This beginning of all this is a hard thing to wrap your head around.  As you get more information and just get used to actually believing this is happening,  I think you will calm down from the freak out.  Feel free to ask questions.  This is wonderful group of women here to help you along this journey.  gandl

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    michele--no real words of wisdom, but some of hope.  My mom had ILC many years ago (lumpectomy, radiation and tamoxifen) and is now a survivor of over 22 years without a recurrence! I have LCIS and just finished my 5 years of tamox and am doing well.

    Anne

  • golfer779
    golfer779 Member Posts: 1,378
    edited January 2009

    Michele54, I know easy for me to say, but try to take some long deep breaths.  I can vividly remember Oct 3rd of 2007.  It was much like your yesterday.  I was in disbelief, trying to figure out how/why this was happening.

    This darn Lobular form of breast cancer is a bit harder to detect (since it typically is not felt as being a lump).   The good news is that many times it is hormone receptive such as your diagnosis (ER/PR+, and also Her2- ... these are good things).  

    Try to take somebody with you to your appt tomorrow to take some notes.  This website is obviously a good source of info, and may I also suggest the book The Breast Book, by Dr. Susan Love. 

    Stength to you, and remember you are by no means alone in this journey.

    Carol

  • Gitane
    Gitane Member Posts: 1,885
    edited January 2009

    It would have helped me in the early process as I remember it, 

    1.    to have a mentor, someone who had been there

    2.    to accept that there is a lot about breast cancer that the professionals don't know.  Get second/third opinions, from the best doctors you can, and then trust yourself to be able to judge what's best for you

    3.    to accept that it takes time to gather the information, and that the picture changes as the information comes in

    4.    to not be afraid of emotions,  the roller coaster ride is amazing

    5.    to find people who understand to talk to, and talk a lot, or keep a journal, or both

    6.    to understand that my mind will distort or forget the facts.   Record conversations with the doctors and keep copies of every document 

    7.    to ask questions.  Write down questions ahead of time, no question is too trivial or dumb!  If you don't understand the answer, ask it again!

    8.    to put my needs first.  This is not selfish.

  • Seabee
    Seabee Member Posts: 557
    edited January 2009

    Michele--

    Believe it or not, the more you know, the better you'll feel. It's a bit early to get worried about size, because lobular tends to get larger than ductal before it is detected, without adversely affecting survival.

    Knowing more may not put your mind at ease, but taking some of the mystery out of your situation will give you a greater sense of control. Gitane's advice is excellent. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2009

    TIA - Hang in there! I agree with the others... the more you know the better you will feel because you will have a game plan. Best wishes to you...keep us posted.

  • KathyAlex1960
    KathyAlex1960 Member Posts: 38
    edited January 2009

    Newly diagnosed.  My MRI was negative!  False negative!!  Just wondering if the other breast should be removed, too.  Chemo to start in 3-4 weeks.

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited January 2009

    Welcome to the boards, Kathy. Wow-- it's really rare to have a false MRI! Especially on a big tumor. How did you end up getting diagnosed?

    One thing that really helped me through chemo was posting on the "Chemotherapy--Before, During and After" board, on the thread for women who were starting chemo the same time I was. You might want to check and see if there's been a thread started for women starting chemo in February '09 yet. 

    Removing the other breast is a personal decision--the negative MRI is a bit disconcerting and I would think that would weigh into your decision heavily. 

  • KathyAlex1960
    KathyAlex1960 Member Posts: 38
    edited January 2009

    I had 3 intraductal papillomas removed 4 years ago.  Scar tissue always present,  In November it felt "different".  Went for Mammo/ultrasound and doc felt immediately it was cancer.  Scheduled MRI and biopsy the following week.  After negative MRI, he felt maybe it was just more scar tissue.  After biopsy, still felt kinda positive.  But.....then biopsy said mixed lobular/ductal.  Everyone thought the tumor was about 2 cm, after mast it was 3.5 cm and sentinel lymph node biopsy negative.  Followup visit was when I was told 1 lymph node was positive and it was lobular.  Had all that surgery on 12-29.  Had lymph nodes done on 1-19, and 2 more were positive.  Recovering now from surgeries, and meeting with oncologist on Tuesday.  I think once I heal up completely and finish all this I am going to seriously think about the other breast removal.  It scares me that it was a negative MRI.  What could be lurking?  I have the sneaky lobular.  Glad to have found this board!!

  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited January 2009

    Kathy,

    Did your final pathology after surgery indicate your tumor was just lobular or mixed ductal and lobular same as biopsy.  The reason I ask is because path from biopsy before surgery indicated invasive ductal and pathology after surgery indicated  infiltrating mammary carcinoma with ductal and lobular features (both ductal and lobular).  They also didn 't think I had positve nodes before surgery due to imaging done but after surgery I had one positive node.  I think lobular in the nodes is harder to detect in imaging and I suspect my node was lobular, although path was only done on tumor in breast.  I had a bi-lateral because I agree that lobular is sneaky and my good breast ended up with atypical lobular hyperplasia (ALH) so it probably would have cooked up the same thing since I had been diagnosed with ALH on my cancer breast the year before.  I had been beating myself up because I had a clear mamogram and ultrasound the year before when diagnosed with ALH but did not have an MRI and then I was diagnosed a year later.  I thought that an MRI would have picked it up earlier but maybe not.  Nexty year mammogram was still clear and ultrasound picked it up after much searching.  Current imaging does not work well at all on dense breasts and for lobular.  It gives me peace of mind knowing I don't have to worry about the other breast. 

  • caligrlof68
    caligrlof68 Member Posts: 323
    edited January 2009

    I went for my first mammogram in august 2008 at the age of 39. Little did I know that breast cancer can be present even without a "mass" or a positive mammo. SHOCK!  My tumor was 7 cm and one lymph node tested positive during needle biopsy. I have finished 4 rounds of AC, 5 weekly Taxols, and 2 rounds of taxotere. My tumor has shrunk to nothing, and next month, when I have my bilateral mastectomy, I am certain they will find nothing more than dead cancer cells. My med onc and my surg onc disagree on the course of treatment. One suggests radiation, the other says it is not necessary. Does anyone have anything to add regarding this?? 

  • cat08
    cat08 Member Posts: 30
    edited January 2009

    Hi,

    I was just diagnosed with ILC. I am 43. I was very shocked as only microcalcifications showed up in mammography, the stereotactic biopsy showed that the calcifications were benign, but the surgeon wanted to remove the calcifications to be safe for the possibility of future DCIS. Then, whoa! I was diagnosed with ILC. And, to make matters worse, the more I read up on it and talk with the doctors the more confusing it gets. They seem stuck in this path of Lumptectomy -> Radiation -> Estrogen blocker. Whenever I bring up masectomy, or testing the gene CDH1, I get a weird backlash as though I have spoken words of, well, blasphemy. I kid you not. To make matters worse, I feel like I want to punch someone and cry at the same time. I am getting a PhD and graduated from Ivy League universities and my questions appear to evoke a sense of "Geez, why would you ever mention masectomy. Just play nice with the path we are talking about." When I ask about survival rates, they tell me it is equivalent with masectomy versus radiation; yet, they suggest not getting masectomy. When I tell them I do not mind the thought of it if it saves my life, one doctor said, "I have never had a single woman tell me she wouldn't mind that option." "Why?" I inquire. "Because of body image issues." When I ask if women crumple and kill themselves or something from their body image post masectomy, the response is, "Why would you ever want to have a masectomy?" "To  save my life or stop it from invading my other breast or ovaries or stomach."  

    I'm very tired as there was a lumpectomy right before the diagnosis and am still recovering. The more I read, the angrier I get because I realize my questions are relevant. Has anyone else had this experience? Could you please recommend a good surgical and medical oncologist in the Southern California region who can speak with patients in a manner that is at least respectfully informative? The other day the medical oncologist looked at me when I questioned about the efficacy of radition therapy and said, "Don't worry, you will not become radioactive. You will be able to be around other people." It made me want to scream, to cry, to wonder how in the hell anyone survives this from sheer and simple lack of dignity. They reassure me I am at one of the top breast cancer centers. Someone, could you please let me know valid information about ILC. Sources, etc... The path you followed? I am waiting for an MRI scan next week, then a sentinel lymphnoid biopsy to see if it has spread. Right now they have staged me at 1a, but they do not know what is going to happen.

    Thank you in advance for the simple idea of sharing this with others who know what it is like to go through this and any suggestions on having at least an adult conversation about my own body.
  • bevsteed
    bevsteed Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2009

    Michele:  It's okay to be scared.  I turned 50, had my first chemo treatment and my beloved OU Sooners lost to Texas all in the same week!  It will get better.  It took me 3 months to get to the point where I wanted to "learn" more about my diagnosis.  I was so devastated by my diagnosis (I'm ILC, Stage IIIA, triple negative, 3 tumors with largest being 8.5cm, with clinically positive nodes), that I just wanted to get my chemo and go home.  But when I finally got some good news from the doc, is where I started to believe I could survive.  I had an MRI that showed all the tumors were gone and lymph nodes as well.  Mammogram and ultrasound showed the same thing.  The ultrasound technologist, while she was scanning me said, "Could that sucker have shrunk this much?" because she couldn't find it!  So believe it can happen for you too.  Chemo does work on ILC.  I'm having bi-lat mast next Monday followed by more chemo and then rads, and I'm glad to do it.  Take a deep breath and go one day at a time.  I think at some level, I'll always be scared.   

  • bevsteed
    bevsteed Member Posts: 30
    edited February 2009

    Cali:  I saw 4 different docs in my pre-surgery consultations.  Two think I should have a bi-lateral mastectomy and 2 think lumpectomy.  Given my history (see post directly above this one) I'm opting for bi-later mastectomy without reconstruction.  However, they all agreed I need radiation, which is one reason I'm putting off reconstruction until a later time.  From what I've been told and read, radiation is a no-brainer with positive nodes.  My docs aren't giving me a choice.  Talk to your main oncologist again, or ask to speak with a radiation oncologist. 

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