Starting chemo January 2009?
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its a rainy day in so cal and i'm using it as a day to stay in my pj's and just hang out.
today is day 10 for me of cycle 2. i have a sinus headache from the change from 85 degree heat to rain....but nothing chemo related. tomorrow, i'm assuming my white blood count will start going up again!?!? i have an appt with my oncologist on monday to do a blood test and will take to her about a hysterectomy or ooph then.
i'm getting used to the hot flashes LOL!
hope everyone has a good day...no side effects!
lisa
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May I join you?
My second treatment is tomorrow. I'm having 4 rounds AC, 4 rounds T. So I guess I'm 13 days from first treatment.
Treatment 1 was not too bad but I'm bracing myself for #2 since I've heard it gets worse. (people love to tell me that!!! If I hear the word cumulative one more time I'm going to belt someone. And this is friends and family, not even medical people or even other bc ladies, LOL)
So far the hair is hanging in there but I guess it's just a matter of time now. Getting ready to take control of that one. Hopefully tonight if the wig comes in I'll be having it buzzed and start wearing the wig. I wouldn't be able to handle the clumps. I've done pretty well emotionally and I would hate for that to be the thing that brings me down.
Stay well!
Diane
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hope everyone is well,
well had a funny feeling in my mouth yesterday, today white film all over tongue ( yeah i have thrush) well besides hurting a little and not being able to taste i guess i'm ok.
waiting til tomorrow for next dose of gemzar. hope it goes well.
diane i agree cumulative is now a cuss word for me.....
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Hi Diane,
When poeple who really don't know tune them out, most of my big scares from listening tooo much turned out to be not true, I am on my 3rd a/c with four tx to follow I think the same as yours my last ac is next week.
So far and I hate to put this in writing no side effects except hair lost!!! I will keep my fingers crossed for you!! Pamela
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Hi everyone,
I am so glad some of you joined chemo angles it is fun getting stuff in the mail!!! My treatments were 3 weeks apart and now they are two weeks apart since I had two treatments before and now are having 6 after..............more tired this time but maybe that is all mental because of the surgery, I keep telling people remember the creature in the harry potter books, boney, skinney, and bald that ran around.....................anyway that's what I now look like, I have Never exercised a day in my life and I am 55.
Now that I look like this I really want too, in clothes since I weight 104 I still look pretty good but not out of them!!!
I am a director for a preschool and never missed a day during treatments......and I realy was note good about washing up etc.........sometimes I think it is just the luck of the draw????!!!!!
This time I am hungrey all of the time!!!!!!! How much food can you eat!!! Off to relaz and watch Ellen. My thoughts are with everybody toooo many to list anymore!!! Pamela
ps Did my bills today.................wow that was fun I sent out $50.00 in payments..........ha!! They may just have to wait a long time..........for the rest!!
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Just posting another post since we were at 666...sorry to be superstitious!
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hey diane...sounds like you are a few days ahead of me...i swear if the armchair doctors would stay out of my business this would be MUCH easier...it's amazing how brilliant some people become when there's a new cancer diagnosis in town...sorry to be the smart ass of the january thread today but i've had it up to my eyeballs with weird behavior from otherwise healthy people...just one of those days!!!...i just want people to treat me like i 'm ME...not a cancer cell...we've had an unusually warm day here today and i couldn't find ANYONE to do anything with...my counts are just slightly low and everyone is afraid of "giving me something"!
diane...i buzzed my hair yesterday and it was hard...i had long beautiful blonde hair...i think that's part of my problem...i'm embarassed that my hair was so important...i don't miss my boobs...why the hair???...oh well...this is a great place to vent...i do remember hedging on chemo because i was so scared of all of it but i kept coming here and reading it is doable...over and over...that has become my mantra!...i do now know that it may not be fun but it is doable...those words are very important and i will always remember how many times i had to read it before i finally said okay doc...let's do it...
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oh...by the way...i want to join chemo angels...sounds nice!...what do i do?
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Carlajane - Just go to Chemoangel.net and find the spot that says "Are you a chemotherapy patient." Click under that paragraph and follow the directions. There is a questioneer with alot of personal questions to help the angels know who you and your family are so that they can personalize your gifts. It unnerved me a bit until I got reassurance that this is a real organization. And my gifts and the angels chosen for me have been a good fit so far. And I think for many of us hair is a bigger part of our image than our breasts. It is so out there, it frames your face and creates a lot of who we look like. I am scared of losing my hair but I plan to use the experience to grow, to understand more about why my hair and my apperance are important to me and to others. I reflect on how I have reacted to the apperance of others and how I might change that. To seek out my inner beauty and figure out how to make it shine through past the absence of hair and all. Easy to say of course while I still have a thick head of wavey hair. I don't know if I will be able to do all I want with the experience but it helps me to have some positve goal to try and take out of an otherize sucky experience.
So far so good on day 1 after my first T/C treatment. I took my parents to do a photo shoot with my son and to take a few more prehair loss photos of me. This time with the blown out look. We went out to lunch afterwards and I was not queesy or anything but my appetite was low. I just had half a cup of minstrone suop and one slice of pizza. But I did eat a filling breakfast of Cream of Wheat with added fruit, nuts and wheatgerm.
I also started a carepages website today and did a little work on my lotsofhelpinghand one, though I have not invited anyone to join that yet. I also called my nurse to remind her to sent a letter to the Hope in Bloom program for me and spoke to a social worker about sending in an application to get me some fee assistance with house keeping for February and March, possible April but I think they are down to 2 month of help due to budget cuts.
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BerkeleyKim and ddlatt, thank you so much for telling me about the MUGA scan -- things don't seem nearly as scary when you hear others talk of their experiences.
Yes, I was wishing my bowel would make up its mind which way it wanted to go. Every morning I had a glass of Kiwi Crush, which is frozen mix of about six kiwifruit (I think you call them Kiwis in the US) that you mix with water. It got things going to the point where I had to lay off it completely on day five and now I think my bowel and I have reached a happy medium! Goodness, if you'd told me this time last year that I'd be sitting here now discussing my bowel movements with women I didn't know I don't think I would have believed you!!!
Ddlatt - your blog is absolutely fantastic. I found myself reading it and recognising myself all over it! I would recommend it to everyone here. I also had chemo brain before starting the chemo! I just think our brains get so overloaded with information, there's no processing room left for simple tasks.
It really has been great to see some people either with no side effects or dealing well with the side effects they have. It brings tears to me eyes to think of everyone going through this at the moment, but I guess one positive side is seeing the strength and humour that comes out, even though I'm sure we all have our low moments.
K.
PS - BerkeleyKim, am so jealous you've been watching Lost. I don't think it starts here in NZ until Feb!
PPS - Jess, my FEC-buddy, hope you're doing okay.
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My modem went out on Sunday and I just got another one so I've been trying to catch up. I had my 1st TC today after having to cancel last week. Today was also my birthday - not my idea of a good birthday! The benadryl they put in my premeds completely wiped me out and I slept through the whole thing. At least it took the edge off and I'm so glad to get the first one behind me.
Holtbolt - I'm going to have to post a picture of my cat - he is your cat's twin at 20 lbs. He has more brown in him, but loves to sit like that. I wish I was that comfortable with my belly hanging out! -
Went to work for a couple of hours, then off to the clinic for blood work--wbc is low at 1.32 but everything else was "close to normal" and there is no rise in temp. so the nurses called the doctor and he said, "Go home and stay there." So I did....just tired, and have a horrible burning in my stomach....eating Rolaids like crazy!
Just hanging out.....hope everyone continues to "hang in there."
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Returned from 2nd A/C treatment. So far, so good. I have had minimal s/e so far. Hair is starting to go. I had it pixie cut on Sunday, but this morning noticed much more in my comb and now can just pull it out. I will probably buzz tonight. I have decided to have some fun with my wigs. My friend who just completed another round of chemo for lymphoma gave me 2 and I ordered 1 of my own. My hair is naturally very fine so any wig I wear is going to look like too much hair. I am just going to make the best of it. Hopefully, when it returns it will be thicker than before.
Hope everyone is doing well. I am going to try to catch up on all the posts since I have not been here for a few days.
Welcome to any new jewels. Sorry you have to be here.
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Hi January Jewels. I hit the wall at work today. Just got real tired and had to sit down. It was just like anything I read about fatique: it's like you hit a wall. I felt fine-no nausea, no headache-students and i were laughing and suddenly I just couldn't stand, think, look around . I just had to sit down. Very strange. I did sit and thank goodness, the bell rang.
Bev R- So sorry you still have to wait at home. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop-I guess in a way it did when I suddenly got so tired. I felt nauseated in the morning and drank a 7 up just like I used to when I was sick as a kid. Surprisingly helped and was able to get through the day, till my afternoon 'hit the wall" episode.
KM47- I am okay. Has your doc said anything to you about taxotere? Mine seems to think that is when I will have to stay home. Guess maybe he figures it will be hard on me because of the culmulative effect. Btw, my wbc came back okay! Whew!!! Onto day 8 and counting the days till 2nd tx in February.
Well, eyes are burning. Time to really rest.
Hugs to all and you go you Warrior Women, January Jewels.
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OK. It is finished. I am now officially BALD. We had a buzz cut party at my house. My significant other started the job, friends took a wack and my son finished the job. I am surprisingly calm. Just another step in the journey. I did have a moment when I was talking to my daughter-in-law on the phone. But it was just a moment and then it was gone. So I am going to get in my jammies and rest now.
Hope everyone else is doing well. Hugs.
Brenda
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The hair thing is kind of fascinating, sad and amusing at the same time...Seems like a new hair style every 20 minutes. This morning I looked like the bad guy from The Incredibles...this evening sort of like a condor chick. I think I will watch it disappear naturally. My 15 year old decided to learn cook while I'm in the shedding faze. I have a few scarves but haven't figured out how to tie them yet.
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I'm so glad to find this forum. You can count me as a new member to the January club. I had my first AC today and was looking for some info about what to expect. They can talk all day at the clinic, but there's just nothing like hearing from the voice of personal experience. I just met with the ONC yesterday and since he had an opening this morning, I told him "let's move". (I was diagnosed 12/10/08 and was getting pretty anxious to get started.) That didn't leave me a lot of time to prepare and educate myself so all your info has been invaluable to me. Thank you.
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Hi all:
Well, white blood counts were within normal (but CBC was just 2.9?), but instead of getting the neulasta like last time I'm getting 3 neupogen shots each day. Much more painful than the neulasta--about 2inches of stuff to inject. Hope they work.
I love reading the posts. Pam--yes! I look like Golum too (not that skinny, but the head!!! And did you see the Ellen with George Clooney finally? I missed it. Ellen looked so cute in the Aretha hat.
BookGirl, I'm letting the rest fall out as it may. Condor chick-right!! And my 14 yr old is worried about hair in the food too, so I wear a cap (and she doesn't want to see the Condor look yet). I did help the shedding process by sitting in the sun and just pulling out handfuls.
Renrel-I I agree about the boob vs. hair, for me at least. I don't miss my breast, and sorta wish I did both. I just wanted the cancer outa there. I never fussed too much about my hair--but now I do miss it.
Jess, hope you feel better.I often sit when I work with the kids, but running to the bathroom as needed might be hard. I think I'm going to try for next week, by just trying to hang out for a day unpaid. My Onc. told me people seem to tolerate the T better than AC--I was telling him its so hard to plan. I'm doing 12 weeklies, so maybe the dose will be lower. .
km47-can you watch Lost on the Internet. I had to finish it online today cuz the double episode went too late for me.
Brenda-glad to hear from you--I was wondering how it's going. Does your test coordinator visit you? Mine is very concerned about ses etc. Does your face turn red the day or 2 after tx? I wonder if that's avastin or something else we're getting.
Hugs to everyone else as we pull through this! Sister 3-just saw your post. I was ok after tx 1 AC. A bit dizzy and queasy, but didn't throw up. Look through the posts, and you'll find a few on our first AC experiences. Seems like everyone is doing ok with it.
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Sister3 and shockedat39 - glad you found us - welcome.
Good to hear you are all persevering. Your words give me encouragement - thanks.
Some thoughts
Lisalisa - it will not be close to 85 degrees here for 6 months and won't rain for 3 --- i am envious! I love warm weather, beaches and sand between my toes. Although I do like 4 seasons and all the beauty each brings. The beauty of Spring 09 will be "chemo done"; the beauty of Summer 09 will be "radiation done".....and then life as I once knew it will begin to resume.....
Re; well wishers/advice givers -- they mean well, and screaming periodically is good for us! still remember being 8.75 months pregnant and the woman who shared with me the details of her 36 hour labor! What part of that could possibly be helpful?
Anybody using a silcone wig band (from TLC)? When I get it just right - not too tight (it sneaks up to the top of my head) and not too loose (it peaks out) it's pretty comfortable - cooler than a wig cap. I will have lot of time to get it right, I guess.
TC #2 tomorrow if WBCs are up - hold a good thought...
Take care all
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Berkleykim- My infusion nurse said the flushing was from the decotron (sp) when DH asked about it at infusion because he was worried it was the flush of an alergic reaction to the Taxotere.
Brenda from Florida - Sounds like you really took the bull by the horns and are embrassing your cancer experience proactively. Hats off to you, no pun intended.
Wecome Sister3.
I am wondering how much I will miss just the sensation of running my hands through my hair as a nervous gesture sort of thing. I am taking alot of pleasure washing my hair while I can. Usually I am annoyed at how long it takes to rinse because it is so thick but for now I am just appreciating it while I can.
My doc does not do blood tests or Nulasta unless there is a sign of a problem. Sort of a relief. For some reason those shots were worring more then the chemo infusion.
DH was exposed to some bug at work today and decided to sleep in the libary tonight instead of with me. He had to put curtains on the windows and inflate a bed. I hope he is not too uncomfortable. I will miss his presences in bed tonight.
DS made me a card at pre- school earlier this week and they mailed it for him so I got it yesterday. So sweet.
Time to go to bed.
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Please count me in on your January group. I started my first tx of 4 TC today and I go in for the neulasta shot tomorrow. Today was a breeze other than the steroids making my insides feeling like they are racing. I think I'll take the docs suggestion and take the Atavan tonight so I can sleep. My mouth is dry tonight, is that normal? Listen to me, when was the last time something was normal? Hmmm, I'm thinking..................still thinking.........oh who cares.
I spent an incredible day at Disneyland yesterday with my 22 yr old daughter. What a glorious day. No lines longer than 15 minutes, weather in the low 70's and I even tried rides I'd never been brave enough to do before. I decided it was time to really live.
I look forward to checking in with every one on a regular basis. Walk strong ladies.
Janna
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Hello all and an extra shout out to the Jan 2 Jewels since we are are all about to have tx 2 tomorrow.
I aslo wanted to give thanks for all who are a tx ahead of me. LisaLisa comes to mind, but I know there are others. It's nice to have a bit of a "coming attractions" in terms of what you are experiencing. It also helps in being pre-emptive, which I've found helps a lot rather than having to play catch up with the various side effects.
The hair thing...I have to admit that I also find that whole process weird and interesting in a clinical way. Clumps of hair that simply come out when you run your fingers through it. I hear Johnny Carson in my head saying: "That is some wild stuff..." every time I look at the hair in my hand.
Also on the local news in Southern California, they reported the first case of this season's flu. Just the news you want to hear when you know your immune system is compromised. My onc gave me a bit of good news with my last bloodwork results saying that my levels were such that it was if I never had the chemo, so I'm hoping that continues.
As I go through this whole process, my heart and admiriation goes out to all of you with children. I'm single and found that on the worst days, there was no way I could have handled the demands or the energy needed to deal with anyone. I snapped at my cat once who wanted his daily "treats" and didn't appreciate them being late...and then felt guilty...okay, it was a really tired type of guilt, but the snapping was also really fatigued, so...
I was wondering if any of you had weird food cravings the day after the Neulasta shot? On my first tx (on Sat), the day after, a friend mentioned to me that he had a Subway sandwhich for lunch. It has been years since I had a Subway sandwhich and it was all I could think about. Fatigue started to hit me as well, and my neighbor was nice enough to drive me to the nearest Subway where I ordered like I was never going to eat again...double meats, all the toppings. It turned out to be the dumbest food choice I could have made with it sitting in my stomach just as I was feeling constipated from Vicodin which I took to ward off bone pain.
Well, if nothing else, it gave me a note to self: watch what you eat on days 2-4 after treatment.
Here's hoping for as minor se's as possible for us in the coming week!
Catherine
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Catherine, I'm not sure I would call it cravings...but I did do some weird eating. We had left over spaghetti and that was all I could think about all night. In the morning I broke it out and ate in cold (much to my 9-year old's amusement which shows you I didn't even try to hide it).
I was constipated as well but I think it was because of the drugs from the port placement. I had that done the morning of my first tx. That was extremely unpleasant. Probably the worst part.
I'll check in tonight!
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Hi Everyone. I hope I can still join the group. I am a little slow getting chemo started. I had a bilalateral mastectomy Dec. 3rd. I had reconstruction right away and am fully expanded, but have to wait until after chemo to get implants. I ended up having two types of cancer, oneside non aggressive and the other her2+++ and E+,P+. I was offered choices for chemo so my husband and I have been researching for a week. I am going to participate in a clinical study using Taxotere/Cytoxan every 3 weeeks for 4 cycles plus herceptin from the start once a week for a year. I am nervous, but reading your postings has really helped and I will be prepared.
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shockedat39: i agree with you about the word "cumulative"! i'm completely sick of people telling me that, yeah, i feel great now, but just wait - the side effects are cumulative and i'll feel like crap later. gee, thanks! i've met women who are in their third chemo treatment and still feel great, have energy, no side effects. i am determined not to listen to people who tell me things "for my own good" unless they have gone through chemo or have a license to practice! and even then, i don't want to hear the word "cumulative" ever again!
KM47 - thank you so much for your kind words about my blog. when i read the beginning of it after my diagnosis, i hardly recognize myself. it's only been 3 months since diagnosis, but SO much has happened since then - like with all of us here.
i'm day 9 after chemo #1 (AC) and still no side effects at all aside from that first night when zofran gave me a killer headache. my next chemo is on the 28th and will have kytril in the infusion bag instead of zofran, also kytril pills instead of zofran pills, and compazine. no side effects from the neulasta shot - is it because of the claritin 2x/day for a week? one of my med oncs said he had never heard of claritin being of benefit, but the other med onc said definitely he recommends the claritin (not claritin D).
re: constipation. my dietitian recommends 1 teaspoon of fibersure (and gradually up to 3 teaspoons/day as needed) in a smoothie instead of taking over-the-counter meds. i've been doing that since chemo started and have had no problems. i also eat one cup of unsulfured dried apricots every day. if you have a trader joe's near you, that's a great place to get these apricots.
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Happy Friday Morning to all of you!!
My boss had cut my hours to having thur and friday off.............. this is the second week and I think I am going to go crazy...I like being busyTo schocked you had a port placement in the morning and then chemo in the afternoon??? wow that had to be a day.
Does anyone else think that it is strange at how many differnet drugs we are all being offered, my oc has not offered me anything, strangly so far I have had no s/e's........... my fourth a/c is next thursday.....then off to mr. taxol.
By the way .....not to brag but my hair is growing back, it is really fun to watch it is about 1/4 inch so far, so their is hope, my previous set of a/c before surgery was Nov 17, so about 8 weeks..............of course since I am starting all over again, this hair should start falling out soon...boo,hoo.
I still find this place amazing......... welcome toi all of you new ones!!!
Talk later Pamela
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Second treatment done!!! I'm making tick marks on the wall, lol. I must say right off the bat that I feel 1 million times better than the first time due to the fact that I was not knocked out, opened up and glued back together this morning. Here's hoping this will carry me for the next three or four days!
Pamela, I'm sorry you have to lose your hair again! I don't really know your story so I'm not sure why, but I'm glad you're enjoying watching it grow back!
I have a great story about the "C" word (shame on your dirty minds, I meant cumulative!!!) but I'm going to post it in the cute, funny cancer stories in the Humor and Games thread.
((HUGS)) Diane
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ddlatt, do you have the smoothie everyday? Constipation has been my worst side effect so far. What do others do? The Onc nurse recommended stool softners everyday and a mild laxative as needed, but if I get that far the laxatives ALL give me cramps----hope this isn't TMI but I'd really like more ideas.....
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BevR - I add some miralax to a cup of juice every morning and i've had no problems. Its over the counter. I bought the jumbo size to get me thru surgery and then chemo LOL!
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The cancer clinic called with my lab results and my WBC is 3.2 and the nurse said it will have to be at least 3.5 to get my 2nd AC Tx on Monday. Has anyone had this happen? She said I am close so they will redo the bloodwork on Monday before my chemo appt and let me know then. I really hope I don't have tx delayed. I read if you eat certain foods like carrots, yogurt, strawberries, oranges, garlic and some other things, you can increase your WBC but not sure if that really helps.
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