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  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2009

    Well Hi Donna! What kind of treatments have you had so far. I have Herceptin until about Nov. I am almost done with everything else. I had Chemo-Surgery with TE, expansions... and hopfully  the end of March.. exchange!

    Laura

  • donna2001
    donna2001 Member Posts: 17
    edited January 2009

    Hey Laura....I have not started my chemo yet.  I will get my port in about 1-2 weeks and then chemo.  I will have ACT for 5 months and Herceptin for 1 year. I have tissue expanders in...and I HATE them.  I cant imagine living with these this for 6 more months.  Do the TE get any better?  I look at the long road ahead of me and I think "I just cant do this."  I am tired already.  I am glad I have found this forum!!!!!!

    Donna

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2009

    I hate the TE too... I just had my surgery... three weeks ago... and will be totally full in two more weeks...YEAH!... so I will have exchange the end of March..so for  me, 3 months with TE. Do you have to have rads? If so... you poor thing might have those TE with you for another yr... I hope not! But.. if no rads.. then you can get those babies out 4 weeks after chemo ( if you fill during chemo)... HANG IN THERE !!!..

    ps.. I did the same chemo you are about to start if you have any questions. why did they not put your port in at your mast?

    Laura

  • lencass
    lencass Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2009

    Hi there,  Kinda late but I`m joining in.   All finished with my chemo and surgery.  Rads now and Herceptin until December.     Herceptin is a whole new world for me since they forgot to give me my premeds last time - I had no reaction so they`re going to keep on giving it to me `straight`.   Much better than my 3 hour Benadryl nap that I was taking. 

    I too got my port after my mast.  The reason they gave me was because my surg-onc didn`t do ports so I had to go to a different surgeon. 

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited January 2009

    I have no pre meds with Herceptin.    What kind of pre meds do you get?   

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited January 2009

    HI donna,

    I have the tissue expanders in.  I had a bilateral mastectomy 9/08 and am now finishing up chemo.  I have to wait two months after chemo to have the exchange surgery.  So my surgery is scheduled for April23rd.  I can't wait to get these hard as rock expanders out.  I can't remember how far out from surgery you are but it does get better.  I am still uncomfortable but guess you get a little use to it.  The Chemo side effects are so much worse I tend to forget about my foobs.  Ha

    Good luck

  • mamakaren
    mamakaren Member Posts: 225
    edited January 2009

    Hello I haven't been feeling that good lately. Yesterday i had a headache and felt very dizzy and a little nausea I felt a little confused also so i don't know if it was anxiety or what!! I'm so mad that i cant pinpoint where the heck all these SE are coming from. I felt little sharp pains on my chest the other day too. I don't know what's going on I don't know why they don't wanna give some anti depressant pills. I need a little help to get me through this, I'm not super women!!! Tomorrow I go to the Doc. I called right now and they said they will call me back to say what the doc wants to do.  They say that Herceptin couldn't do this but one of my nurses says " we know it does" I hope everyone else is doing good. Thanks, Karen

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited January 2009

    Karen, sorry that you are feeling lousy.  I know what you mean about not being able to pinpoint where the side effects are coming from.....I go through this all the time.  It is very frustrating.  Please keep us posted on what your doctor says.

    Prayers and hugs coming your way.

    CrystlC....my exchange surgery should be right around the same time as yours.  The doctor told me to plan on 6-8 weeks after last chemo and my last chemo is mid-Feb. 

    Donna....the tissue expanders are something that you just get used to.  After a short while, you hardly remember that they are there.  Compared to the chemo, they tend to take a back burner and they are a non-issue since I know that they are only temporary.  Hang in there.

    Anne

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited January 2009

    Marejo,

    You give me such hope!! I am her2+ as well. I started herceptin in June and I now have just 5 mos left, then my port comes out shortly there after. I am glad to be surrounded by all of you strong kick a*! women!!

    Tracey

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited January 2009

    Donna,

    I know you are tired sweetie and you dont feel like you can do this. It is EXACTLY how I felt in April of 08 when I was dx. But I promise you that you will get through it! Some how we find our strength and get through because we have to. All of us extend hands to eachother, so on the days when ya feel like you are just not gonna make it, just come here. We will lift you up!!Wink

    Tracey

  • mamakaren
    mamakaren Member Posts: 225
    edited January 2009

    Hey Tracey, You hit the head on the nail about coming to this thread when we feel like crap. Do  you have any problems with Herceptin?? I've only been on it since Sept 24th along with my last chemo then had to stop Nov 18th and started again Dec 30th and now i feel some chest tightness but don't know if its really anxiety. I wonder if anyone has had to stop Herceptin several times to complete the year?? Or is it to dangerous to keep allowing your EF to go down and up for a long period of time. (a whole year)

    I was reading that some people get pre meds with Herceptin could someone please tell me what they are? I'd really like to know.

    I guess today i'm feeling that i'm at the end of the bus today!! (not feeling well) somebody send me a pineapple pick me upper drink?? (PLEASE)Frown

  • LauraK23
    LauraK23 Member Posts: 159
    edited January 2009

    Hi Party Girls,

    I'm another Laura.  I'm 46 and have been married 27 years.  I have two kids,  23 and 26.  I'm originally from Ohio but have lived in VA. since 1981.  I'm an x-ray tech working as a computer analyst for radiology at local hospital. 

    I was diagnosed on my son's 25th birthday which was Nov.27, 2007.  I've been through chemo, radiation, tissue expanders, and this past Wed. got my silicone implants!!!  If the ticker holds out, I'll be getting Herceptin until Sept.2009.  My ejection fraction has fallen from 70% to 51% so I'm praying that I can continue on for the whole year. 

    Thanks for getting this party started, Karen.

    Love, Laura K 

  • LauraK23
    LauraK23 Member Posts: 159
    edited January 2009

    Hey Karen,

    The only premeds I get in two Tylenol.  Do you know what your current EF is?  What did you start out at?

    Laura K 

  • ejlj
    ejlj Member Posts: 211
    edited January 2009

    hey traceyz, we share the same cancerversary!

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2009

    Hey Herceptin Ladies... am I late to the party today... You  poor gals that are having trouble with SE! I am sooooooo sorry. I start herceptin back again next Monday.. every three weeks until  Oct. I think.... I wonder if I will have issues??? I will pray for all you ladies having the SE !!!!!

    ANOTHER Laura... welcome! There are A LOT uf us Laura's on the board... And I think we are all between 40-55 ish.... TOO YOUNG !!!!

    I used to hate my name growing up... everyone pronounced my name.. LORA... but FINALLY as an adult.. I started tell people my name was not LORA... but LAURA... a sound...

    Now I like my name....:)

    Well girls.... Off to make dinner... Tracey , I am glad you found us.!!!

    Love to all !

    Laura

  • lencass
    lencass Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2009

    Hi,

    My pre-med orders for Herceptin were Benadryl and something else - I think it was anti-nausea.   But Benadryl knocks me out completly (my snoring makes the nurses laugh) so I'm glad they forgot it.  

     I think the only reason I got pre-meds is because the trial protocol requierd it and they kept it up when the drug switched to herceptin. 

  • mamakaren
    mamakaren Member Posts: 225
    edited January 2009

    Hi gals, Laura welcome, all i know is that my EF was in the high 60's and went down 10 pts within 2 months of treatment.

    My nurse called me right now but i really felt sad after i got off the phone with her. I love her so much, she has been there for me anytime all the time! I don't think that i would have made it through chemo if it wasn't for her but I just felt a bad vibe. Maybe it's just me being very emotional I don't know! I told her about my hands swelling and about my chest and she said she wasn't saying that she doesn't understand and she believes everything that i an saying is true but she just doesn't believe that i'm feeling those things due to the chemo side effects. I just don't get it i know i should be thankful that there are these wonderful drugs to save our lives. It's just that i feel like chemo did it's job and messed up our bodies in the long run and now the Docs don't want anything else to do with you anymore. In other words the damage is done so see you later. I have my appt tomorrow and I don't know how i'm gonna express myself. She just said well your hands and anxiety have nothing to do with cancer so you need to talk to your primary Doc. I said of course it does I never had any problems with my hands swelling and hurting. I know that it does have to do with treatment i only read everything that us people feel. Glad i can say how i feel here.

    Lots Of Love,   Karen 

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited January 2009

    HI Laura(estepp) Yes of course I found you ladies, you can run but cha cant hide! LOL. Im glad you are doin really good and I hope you are still on cloud 9 from your response to chemo. I know I am. Keep me posted on the rads. Remember there is no wrong choice.

    Laura K. I am glad you are with us on this thread. I live in Hampton!!! BTW what is an ejection fraction? I am a member of Beyond Boobs, its a breast cancer group of premenopausal women. We get together in Willaimsburgh and Newport News. If you wanna learn more about us go to www.beyondboobsinc.org I am the "chocolate" one right in the middle of the group pic.Laughing We have alot of fun I think you would enjoy it. If you find yourself interested PM me and I will give you my contact info. I am on face book under Tracey Dickson Scott. Hope to meet cha.   

    Karen, The pre meds for Herceptin are tylenol and benedryl. The only SE that I had from herceptin when I 1st started was headache and dizziness. And it went away. Of course I had a MRI and CT scan just to be safe. My hands also swelled once but I think it was the taxotere. My ankles also swelled. But that also went away. There are so many side effects from chemo, it really does a number on our bodies, thank God it also does a number on the cancer. But dont let the docs make ya think you are crazy because you are not the SEs are real. Just relax and take good care of yourself. You can ALWAYS say how you feel here. We are your sisters and trust me when I say... we UNDERSTAND! But I promise Karen, this to shall pass. BTW thanks sooo much for starting this great thread!

    EJLG, Although I wish this was not the kind of anniversary date we shared, im glad we can relate.

    Until next time take good care!!

    Tracey

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited January 2009

    High Ladies...I haven't seen the thread lately so I haven't kept up with most of you. I have had to stop Herceptin for the time being due to side effects (vomiting, diahr***, bone/muscle/joint pain, headaches, abdominal pain, tiredness, etc.). I'm dut to have my ovaries out in a few weeks and once that surgery is over I will try going back on the Herceptin weekly instead of every 3 weeks. We've had to cancel once already because of vomiting so decided to do surgery 1st then change treatment. I seemed to fair much better when I was doing it weekly with the Taxol...at least I wasn't vomiting and didn't get the headaches back then.

    I hope you get some answers today Moma, I know it suxs but keep pressing until they figure it out. My own ONC was doubtful it was the Herceptin at first too but has come around to thinking I am just one of those people who gets a wide range of SE's. You know your body better than anyone so don't let them brush it off!

    "Cheers" to everyone else...

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2009

    Fly, so sorry you are having these SE too! I had NO idea that Herceptin could cause so many of them. I hope after your surgery that the weekly dose with fair better for you.

    Karen, good luck at your appt. today. PLEASE tell them everything. Speak up and tell them your story. After this past year we have all had, we deserve to be heard. Just tell them everything you feel now. Let us know sister!

    Tracey, so far my rads doc thinks I should give rads a try... but if I choose not too, he understands. He is calling MD Anderson today ..( he and the rads doc there are friends) and going to show him my path and biopsy reports and the MRI before Chemo... see what he says.

    So... my BS says no.. it will only give me a 2-3% better chance... 2 rads onco here say It might be good to do them... and I am waiting to here from MD Anderson.

    I AM NOW more messed up than last week. My rads doc says in the end, it will be my choice. Grey area girl. I told him that this "choice" so many of us need to make is ridiculous. That EVERY woman who does neo-chemo should have a SNB PRIOR to chemo so that everyone knows for sure how many nodes are involved. He told me that they are very close ( at my cancer center) to making that mandatory because of ALL the women like you and I and that neo-chemo is getting very popular.

    Pray for me to make the right choice. Is rads ONLY for local recurrence? Does it have anything to due with mets?

    Ladies, enjoy the day... breathe..

    Laura

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited January 2009

    Wow, after reading about everyone's side effects I'm nervous to start it. Of course all the doctors and nurses are like "there are no sides effects with Herceptin".  I was really looking forward to this, I had an awful time with the chemo. I deserve a break. My first tx of Herceptin and Avastin is next Wed.  I'll keep my fingers crossed that it goes smooth. I hope it eases up for everyone, we all does an easier time with this.

    My finger nails are so nasty right now. They have lifted and I have cut them back as far as I can But in the past couple days they have a funky oder coming from them and if I push down on the nail pus comes out. I've been soaking them in peroxide but so far they don't seem much better.  I'll ask my doctor about this next time I see her.

    Take care,

    Angie

  • fightinhrd123
    fightinhrd123 Member Posts: 633
    edited January 2009

    Laura

    The way i understand it is that rads will mop up any stray cancer cells,which for us in the lymph nodes could kind of be important, because we did at one time have positive nodes, and we dont know how many!!  Very frustrating, I agree!!!  My BS also said no rads.  If it'd been on my left side, i mightve had a harder decision.  However, if there is any stray cells that somehow didnt get killed by chemo, the radiation will kill them and stop them traveling.  We  both had a complete response, so chances are low, but i just didnt want to take that risk and look back and though i shouldve done it!

  • fightinhrd123
    fightinhrd123 Member Posts: 633
    edited January 2009

    I have zits since i started Herceptin to add to my list of side effects!! LOL!!  Hardly ever had them before!!!!  Oh well, cant complain, we're lucky to get it rightKiss

     Pina Coladas all around, im gonna need 3 by the end of today!!!

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited January 2009

    Angie,

    YOu need to call your doc asap about the odor and pus.  I am having terrible nail problems.  The main thing I have been told is if I see pus to call immediately because that means there is an infection.  My big toenails are hurting so bad and yesterday I went to a podiatrist.  I wish I would have gone a while ago.  Anyway she drained the fluid from under my toes and had to remove the right one.  It is SOOO painful and SOOOO ugly.  I have it wrapped up and have to soak it 3 times a day.

  • ejlj
    ejlj Member Posts: 211
    edited January 2009
    So sorry you all are having such a terrible time with your nails.  My fingernails are fine, just a little blackened and my two large toenails are thickened and lifting.  Pretty ugly to look at but no signs of infection or pain. CristlC did the podiatrist say he's seen this before with chemo?  Sorry you had to deal with that, it sounds terribly painful.  Angie are you involved in a study seeeing how you are getting Avastin?  What's been your course of treatment so far?
  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited January 2009

    Cristl-I am going to call the doc today.  One of them tore off a little bit ago, talk about nasty.  It didn't hurt but the smell was a lot worse and there was a lot of pus. Ugh.

    Ejlj-Yes, I am part of a study, it is the Beth trail.  I was given the Avastin along with normal treatment, TCH every three weeks and now I will get it with just the Herceptin.  The only side effect I have from it is bad sinus issuses. There's been a lot of hoopla about the trail.  Avastin has deaths on this trial but, it's in Phase 3 so I figure if it was too dangerous they wouldn't continue with it.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited January 2009

    Angie...... let us know how it turns out.. good Luck!!!!

  • DianaT
    DianaT Member Posts: 532
    edited January 2009

    sorry for dropping off here, started back to work then I got sick.  I am just starting to feel human again. 

    About the nails ~ puss is definitely a sign of infection and an antibiotic may be needed. The podiatrist had to pull off one of my toe nails too (yes ~ really freaking gross!) but it is starting to grow out and I haven't had any other problems.

    I only have 3 to 4 more herceptin treatments left, so I might be the first one finished in the group.  I wonder what it will be like not going to the treatment center so often.  It has practically been my home for the last year!

    Last Friday, I had a margarita (yummy!!!) then a few beers which is the most alcohol I had in so long and of course I wake up Saturday with this awful cold.  I am supposed to go back to work tomorrow, so hopefully I can talk! 

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited January 2009

    okay so I talked to the doctor today and she said that antibiotics wont help with the nail infection.  She said it was caused by the taxotere and should clear up since I'm not on it anymore.  I just wish if the other nails are going to come off they would just get it over with. I assumed that once the nail came off that the skin underneath would be smooth and pink but it white, and chunky looking. I'll have to wear a band aid over it for work.

    I've also had this pain it's kinda between my upper rip cage but more towards my right rib. It's been there since the start of chemo.  I brought it up to the doctor and she seemed to think it was related to all the stomach issuse I was having during chemo.  Well, the pain is still there and I've notice it gets worse after I eat, I'm also having nausea. I was thinking maybe it was my gallbladder but have now convinced myself it's liver mets. They are going to schedule me a CT scan. Cancer is a barrell of monkeys, isn't it?! 

  • traceyz
    traceyz Member Posts: 745
    edited January 2009

    Hi Laura,

    About the rads. As you know I went to see an internationally known Rads specialist at MCV in richmond VA his name is Dr. Arthur. You can look him up (google him) and read his background. He advised me that there is a new study that has come out but has not been published yet about the survival rate and rads on women with only a few nodes involved. He explained that in my situation with the 1 node and complete response to chemo that rads would only give me a 0-1% benefit in overall survival as rads is for local recurrence. The fact that I got a bilateral makes the chances of local rec low less than 10%. And trust me my onc will be monitoring me every step of the way. So when I look at survival and it only gives me maybe a 1% benefit and I have less than 10% chance of a rec. I declined rads at the advice of Dr Arthur and I have not looked back. But there are no wrong choices! Also he said the rads docs that tell you that your gonna get a 10% benefit in survival with rads have not seen the new info because it hasnt been published yet. Keep in mind that if you go to Midas, you get a muffler so talk to your onc as well. But like I told you before he did not lump me into a big general study. He indivisualized my tumor make up and personalized his recommendation for me. It's a tough decision but I am sure your gonna do just fine either way. Best wishes!

    Tracey

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