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Daffodil · January 2009

Doodles, you're calling me corny? Ya know, I think it's the first time I've ever used the term...and can't tell you how it popped out.

Miracle for cuticles in this cold weather: Healthy Hoof, in nail aisle at CVS, The fancy stuff, from Clarins , ROC, La Mer, can't compare!!!

abbadoodles · January 2009

Well, Daff, it takes one to know one. Tongue out

I think that Barielle stuff came out of hoof medicine, too. Seems we have lots in common with our four-legged friends............

Am feeling glamour-deprived.

BethNY · January 2009

Here are the pix I snapped yesterday:

BethNY · January 2009

From far away it looks really natural... up close you can really see the goden color. I can't wait to see what it looks like when I do it curly. I always have it blown straight when I cut it, so I don't freak out at how much length was taken off... so that was the cream top I wore under the black sweater also....

Anonymous · January 2009

I love that Beth! Very elegant and chique.

Raye99 · January 2009

IT IS GORGEOUS BETH!!! I do love it. The color is great and the length! So long and pretty.

Love the top as well. That neckline is great.

Anonymous · January 2009

CUTE!!!!

Anonymous · January 2009

OK ladies...so here who you all are!!! Abbydoodle, thanx for starting this thread. I'm very timid when it comes to new threads, so it's taken me a while to find you.

LUV your haircolor Beth!!!

OK Gals, I need some *help*!! I am ready for the Big One. Surgery.

I am 60 years old and it's getting so I can't look in the mirror any more on a sunny day I am so horrified at what I see. I have jowls, wrinkles around my lips, my eyes. If I take my fingers and pull the skin ever so gently around my temples and ears I look like me again, a younger fresher self.

DH and I talked about this years ago...I am a bit older and when we were both young and worried about what would happen in time, I said, we'll just save some money & I'll get a face lift!! Well, it's been 25 years, and guess what...the money is there. I just need the courage. And let's say he's definitely not against the idea!

OK, what do I do? How do I avoid a horror story? I live in Michigan which is good news for me, because according to a map of facelift surgery costs I found on the web, these procedures are inexpensive around here. Where do I start? Any ideas Beth? You are familiar with plastic surgery I understand.

Linora

Raye99 · January 2009

Linora -

Here are my two cents. I, too, do the lift in the mirror by pulling my forehead upwards and my cheekbones back. Does make a difference.

I am not against any kind of plastic surgery - used to be, but bc changed that. I say, if you want to do it, go for it, just make sure you get a good ps and look at pics of her or his work. Maybe even a mini lift? You are only 60, but they say the earlier you get the work done, the better. I guess that means I should have my eyes done now.

On the other side of the coin, I read in a book called "how to look young", that something that will advise others of your age is a facelift. Why? Because if a lady has had a facelift, she is old enough to have had one. Make sense?

Good luck in your decision. It is so difficult. I can't even decide if I want boobs or not.

BethNY · January 2009

FIRST, start out by going to www.plasticsurgery.org. Go to find a surgeon, click cosmetic, face lift, your zipcode, and print out a list of at least ten surgeons in the surrounding area.

Then start consulting with all of them. You'll need to get a list together of the right questions to ask first. You have to figure out what your aesthetic goals are, and make sure you understand how to communicate them from the PS. You'll want to see photos of the surgeons work, and speak to at least two patient that he has done a face lift on... one that recently had surgery, and one that is one year out from surgery.

Have you tried less invasive stuff first, like botox, etc.

Raye99 · January 2009

Sorry to interrupt the ps discussion, but I need a little help too. I feel ugly and old.I need something for under my eyes, but I hate that white stuff cover up. I don't have dark circles, just kind of not very firm there any longer.

Another question: has anyone tried High Beam by Benefits Cosmetics? It is supposed to give one a glow.

Anonymous · January 2009

Raye...you aren't interrupting but...OMG, if you're "old & ugly" I'm done for!!

Thank you Beth and Raye for the ps info. Well, I went to the website you suggested Beth, did a bit of looking around, and I think I am leaning towards some of the more advanced skin treatments and/or a mini-lift. A facelift is very drastic surgery.

In any case, I've already made two appointments, the first with a dermatologist who specializes in these kinds of things with terrific credentials, and the second with the top man at the plastic surgery practice where I was referred by my original BC surgeon. In any case, I'm off to a start.

I am so excited!!! Improvements are just around the corner!!

Now if I'm brave enough I'll submit some photos..

Anonymous · January 2009

I've heard of a new lift called the Life-style lift ... take a look

http://www.lifestyle-lift.com/

Anonymous · January 2009

I forgot to copy and paste the description:

WHAT WE DO AT LIFESTYLE LIFT?

Lifestyle Lift is all about outstanding customer service as well as making you look and feel great. Your experience with us is our number one goal. The Lifestyle Lift Facial Firming Procedure is a minor one hour procedure which often provides major results. It was designed exclusively for jowls, frown lines, wrinkles, loose neck (turkey neck) and facial skin. Recovery is quick. We describe it as a new procedure for a new generation without the costs and prolonged recovery associated with traditional procedures. Usually you can return to work and your regular activities in about a week.

WHAT DOES IT DO?

As people age, the effects of gravity, exposure to the sun and stresses of daily life can be seen in their faces. Deep creases form between the nose and mouth. The jaw line grows slack; jowls form; folds and fat deposits appear around the lower face and neck. People can look older and more tired than they feel. The procedure brings back your jaw line, addresses wrinkles and frown lines, creating a more youthful appearance like the one you once had. You will feel and see improvement immediately, before leaving the office.

Results are often dramatic. What the Lifestyle Lift can do is help to fight the visible signs of aging by removing excess fat and tightening droopy muscles and skin of the face and neck. And, every client is different and unique. That's why we provide different options for each individual's needs. During your free consultation, your Lifestyle Lift Doctor will recommend what will work best for you

BethNY · January 2009

Good-- I'm glad you found more info. That web site is run by the American Society of Plastic surgeons, and no one should ever have surgery with a PS that is not board certified. The ASPS does a great job explaining all different surgeries, and listing docs in your area.

I definitely think you can achieve great results without a face lift. Please let us know what you decide to do... I think it's great if this is something you want to do-- GO FOR IT!!

In other news-- I am so relieved that everyone wa rescued from this plane crash in the hudson.... that pilot is some hero... really incredible.

iodine · January 2009

No No No to the lifestyle lift. Basically, a mall doc, who went to a seminar one weekend and was told how to do one. Doesn't even need surgical experience.

Don't waste time, money, and poor outcome will a mall doc!

Daffodil · January 2009

Linora, go for it...the sooner, the better results. I bet a midline lift with minimal incisions may be all you want, allong with doing the eyes~~~especially if it's hereditary drooping, which comes early. That jowly look is also hereditary. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

I've heard that the stars who never age and look so wonderful have been doing little tweaks for years!!!

wishiwere · January 2009

Customers Can Get Free Products At Boston Store, Macy's Starting Jan. 20

http://www.wisn.com/cnn-news/18483869/detail.html

JUST and FYI for those in the boston area! Thouht this was something any ladies in that area might be interested in. It's only till the end of january and came a result of a lawsuit as you can read on the website posted Full sized product free.

abbadoodles · January 2009

Ah, the aging story. Nobody likes it.

Re: Lifestyle Lift. I have serious misgivings about this one. As Dotti says, it's a mall experience. I would never trust my face to that! Of course, if someone here wants to give it a go and report on it..................You first.

Linora, if you are 60 with signs of aging (and who doesn't have them by that age) there are many ways to soften them without surgery. None have the results and potential upside/downside as going under the knife. Make sure your surgeon comes well-recommended.

I, personally, am intrigued by the idea of plastic surgery but somehow don't think I will go there. I am 61, look pretty good except, of course, not a young chick Wink and not happy with the problem areas I *do* have. I take care of myself and use helpful products but I'll still never look like I did at 25. Oh, well. I am a different me and I'm working to "accentuate the positive" as best I can.

I did try Restylane last fall for those pesky little lines right on the sides of the mouth. To be honest, I don't think it made $600 worth of improvement. (Maybe $25 worth) I'm not doing that again. And I figure if all the other stuff is as (in)effective as that, I'll just let myself go with the flow. I think it's mostly hereditary, anyway. Knowing what my mother looked like I think I can accept that.

Of course, I wish I could nail this recon situation once and for all. But that is mostly a privacy issue rather than a self-improvement issue.

Have not tried High Beam, Raye, but am thinking of looking for a very lightweight foundation or tinted moisturizer. If I can ever get myself out from under this workload, I will go shopping and check out the Clarins counter.

Anonymous · January 2009

Iodine, Beth, Rocktober, Daffodil, everybody, thanx for the good info. I can see that I have quite a lot of research to do.

BTW, I've done my research on "Lifestyle Lift" and Iodine, you are absolutely right Iodine...BEWARE...I talked to one of their slick salesmen on the phone, and I get the impression that all it is is a marketing scheme to make business for non-certified surgeons, or surgeons who can't get work. On the web horror stories abound, over 60% of women who did this had bad experiences. NO WAY JOSE.

The reason I am talking to dermatologists is that I am interested in some of the other procedures that improve quality of skin, like laser treatments, injections, peels. But most of all, I like the idea of an "S" lift or minilift, an outpatient procedure that takes small tucks at the temples and round the ear. It is less invasive and doesn't affect the nerves and muscles the way a traditional face lift does.

Anybody know about this?

KAK · January 2009

Beth, your hair looks just beautiful. Love to see those long locks!

Jorf · January 2009

I've been getting the temp color via my hairdresser for years but it's starting to wash out too fast - like, the grey streak in the front was back in a few days. So, on my weekly pilgrimage to Target this week I bought some semi-perm color but have never done it myself before. DH is away this weekend (yeah, it's 15 below here and he's in Houston complaining [not really] that it was 35 this morning with a high of 60; where's the violin?) so I thought I'd try it.

Any tips? I'm a little nervous.

But I did just get some Very Cool new glasses and I think I'm pretty darn cute in them!

Jorf · January 2009

Raye, High Beam is one of the things I use whenever I go to Sephora! One day I'll buy it....

Anonymous · January 2009

Linora, I had no idea that these maybe scam artists. .. I am glad u are checking them all out!!

My step mom went to a ps ..... recommended, researched and she is soooooo happy with the results.

Anonymous · January 2009

Rock...well you know, I had saved their telephone number in my palm for two years and called them on my own (before I saw your post), so I was fooled too!!!

I just hope that any other woman who does a google search will see our posts here and back off, good thing you brought them up!!

Linora

Daffodil · January 2009

Wish, I received that notice too. How does one prove that one bought products? I save receipts, but not usually the ones from the cosmetics counter!

wishiwere · January 2009

It says that you don't need proof of past purchases, they are free for whomever for as long as their supply lasts. If you click on the link in the story line it lists which products will be available at which stores.

GramE · January 2009

Memory has kicked in and sometime in the past I remember that make up artists use scotch tape (or some other kind of transparent tape) for making actors/actresses look younger than their years. I think some hair arrangement goes with it, obviously to hide the tape. That could qualify as a "mini" face lift. I don't think duct tape is the way to go, however desperate one may be to get rid of sags and bags...

KAK · January 2009

Jorf, does your hairdresser put you under the dryer or heat lamp after she/he applies the color? You can try that. Once in a while my hair doesn't take the temp color very well, but then the next time, it's okay. My hairdresser told me that dirty hair takes it better than hair you just washed recently & we've done the dryer thing when it doesn't take, like in the winter sometimes.

Good luck.

abbadoodles · January 2009

I have to let my semi-permanent color process for a full 45 minutes or it doesn't take well at all.

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