Who Here Took Tamoxifen?

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missing_nawlins
missing_nawlins Member Posts: 23

I am trying to determine how many people on this board took Tamoxifen yet still had a reocurrence.  Thank you.

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  • mke
    mke Member Posts: 584
    edited December 2008

    I took tamoxifen for 5 years after the first BC, but they think the 2nd 8 years later was an independent event, because it had different characteristics. So it was not a reoccurrence.

    I didn't bother to find out the receptor status of the 3rd, just had a bilateral.

  • missing_nawlins
    missing_nawlins Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2008
  • sdavis
    sdavis Member Posts: 96
    edited December 2008

    I took tamoxifen for two years after my first diagnosis and stopped due to side effects. My reoccurance was this last october. two years after stopping the tamoxifen and it was an offshoot of the original cancer. chemo didnt kill it. Tamoxifen suppressed it for two years but once off the drugs its came back.

  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited December 2008

    Hey there,

    Yes I took tamox for almost 5 yrs. I was just short of 5 yrs by a few months, when I had my recur.. It was a long 5 yrs taking it, many uncomfortable s/e's, but it was worth it, because it seems to have kept the cancer away for that long at least..I am trip +++ and was told very aggressive bc, so I guess being ned for that long was a good thing..I just wish I had stayed on my herceptin for longer than the one year they gave me..I have been getting lupron shots( in place of the tamox) for the past 3 yrs. since my recur .Back on the herceptin that long too.. Hope this is helpful..KLynn

  • missing_nawlins
    missing_nawlins Member Posts: 23
    edited December 2008

    Thanks everyone for the continued responses.

  • AccidentalTourist
    AccidentalTourist Member Posts: 365
    edited December 2008

    I am still new to this and struggle with the notion of having to take medication which has so many negative side effects when recurrences still happen with it. KLynn, why do you think that Tamixifen kept the cancer away when your recurrence happened whilst you were still taking it? 

  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited December 2008

    Hey Accidental,

       I just think that it kept it away for almost 5 yrs..Without it I would have had a recur much sooner..I guess my body just got use to the drug or built up a resistance to it after 5 yrs..I am strongly er and pr ++++++ and strongly her2 +++..My hormones were crazy out of control. I even got my period throuhout ALL of my chemo, all of my rads, and all of the yr on herc. I also got regular periods while on tamox...My periods only stopped after being on the lupron shots every month. When I started getting the lupron shots every three months I was getting break through bleeding, so onto the monthly shots..I think if I were to stop the lupron today, I would go right back to getting my periods, and I'm 47 now..My grandmother was still getting hers until she was in her late 50's., almost 60..My mother mid fifties, and being on tamox. My mother also had her recur at her 5 yr mark, just finishing tamox.. Who really knows, but as tough as tamox is to take some day, I think it is really important to take..Best wishes all KLynn

  • petesmom
    petesmom Member Posts: 27
    edited January 2009

    Hi,

    I took Toremifin for 5 years before I had another cancer in the same breast 7 years later.  I had a mast, had my ovaries removed and am now on Arimidex.  I think my cancer recurred because of the estrogen that was surging through my body.  I am hoping that by the time I finish Arimidex, estrogen levels will so low as to not be a problem any more.

     PetesmomWink

  • JeanneH
    JeanneH Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2009

    I've had cancer 3 times, but this is my first post to any forum.  First one - right breast - was stage 1 - had lump removed, all lymph nodes from under right arm removed, radiation and 5 yrs tamox,  This was about 15 years ago.  Had yearly mammograms which remained clear.  Until 2 years ago, when 3 tumors showed up on left breast, totalling nearly 5 CM.  Had several positive nodes so nodes removed left side.  Stage 3a.  Had lumps removed, radiation, and now on Arimidex.  Left surgical scar reopened after radiation and is still open - 1 year later.  Mamo in April 2008 was clear both sides.  Finally had a MRI in November which showed potential issue on right breast.  After an MRI-assisted biopsy, they confirmed cancer again (1 cm) - less than 2 years after last one. Have decided on bilateral Mast. in 3 weeks, with no reconstruction. 

    Estrogen appears to be my issue also, as all 3 cancers have been ER+.  It's unclear if the cancer in the right breast was present all along, and perhaps missed by earlier scans.  I Have a supposedly unrelated condition with leiomyomas all over my body (Genetic condition) and a hysterectomy at age 28 due to fibroids.  The Arimidex has weakened my bone structure and a simple fall last January resulted in a broken wrist and broken knee cap.  Am on large dosage of Vitamin D.  Still working full time and feel reasonably good.  But this is getting old.  Looking forward to taking a vacation - even though the economy sucks, after 3 cancers, it's time to relax and enjoy life.  Luckily, my CAT and bone scans are clear, so no METS (yet).   At 59, I'm really glad my husband and I traveled a lot to wonderful places over the years.  If you wait until you retire, you're betting you'll be in great health, and I would have lost that bet. 

    With no lymph nodes either arm, infection and lymphodema are continual risks.  Have had infections on left side twice in last year, one resulting in hospitalization.  Have stage 1 lymphodema, and will start wearing sleeves and gloves.  Do daily arm and left exercises, with weights.  Don't want it to get worse.  Haven't had blood pressure taken in either arm for nearly 2 years.  I have cysts on both ovaries that they will probably remove later in the spring.

     However, things could be a lot worse...I'll make it.....It's reasuring to see the posts of many women who have had Bilats as well as 2, 3, or even more bouts of cancer - spirits seem good and people keep on keeping on.  Glad to have found this site.  Good luck to you.

  • Sister3
    Sister3 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2009

    I was orginally diagnosed in 1996, treated with lumpectomy, radiation, & 5 years Tamoxifen.  I was just diagnosed with a recurrence in December.  The cancer has not come back in my breast and all body scans (MRI, CT, & bone) are clear.  There's just this lump under my arm where I had axillary excision and radiation in 96.  Treatment this time is probably going to be chemo followed by surgery (they keep changing things).  Well, I'm off to the medical oncologist this morning to see what has changed about my treatment plan in the last 24 hours.

  • 3rdtimer
    3rdtimer Member Posts: 11
    edited January 2009

    I took Tamoxifen after my first bout of BC after radiation and was on it for five years and cancer returned but in my other breast. This time it had spread to my lymph nodes so I had Chemo and radiation. The dr put me on Arimidex which I was on for three years. After eight years of being on drugs that suppressed my estrogen and made me have menopausal symptons (hot flashes, personality issues, etc) and taking other drugs for these side-effects, I took myself off all medications. I was diagnosed with BC for the 3rd time last fall. I don't think the cancer came back because I went off the drugs. I can't seem to make it past my fifth year mark but I'm hoping because I had a BLM this time, that I am through with breast cancer. Not sure if I would retake the drugs again. I am meeting with my oncologist in a few weeks and I sure hope he won't suggest taking drugs again. Anyone else have an opinion on this? 

  • JeanneH
    JeanneH Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2009

    My history is somewhat similar to yours (see my blog above) altho I'm still taking Arimidex.  My medical oncologist has ordered an Onotype dx test on the biopsy sample to see if I would benefit from a 2nd round of chemo.  Don't know the results yet.  Alto this test is usually done on early stage people, I understand they sometimes perform it also on post menoposal and others.  I haven't met with the med onologist since my 3rd diagnosis.  My surgeon said that they'll also look at the grade of the tumor to see how aggressive it is before recommending more chemo/drugs.  Good luck.

  • Wickchick
    Wickchick Member Posts: 3
    edited January 2009

    I was diagnosed 2 years ago with cancer in left breast. Had a lumpectomy, clean margins and no nodal involvement, and radiation. Oncotype scores were low, no chemo. Was put on Tamoxifen. Had a hysterectomy later in the year and doctor switched me to Aromasin since I was technically then "menopausal". Just diagnosed again with 3 tumors in other breast. These are new, not a recurrence. Just had a double mastectomy and will begin chemo this week. Also had the test for the Breast Cancer Gene...NEGATIVE. What the hell happened?

  • Dressagerider66
    Dressagerider66 Member Posts: 4
    edited February 2009

    I had a double mastectomyt 15 1/2 years ago and just was diagnosed with a (probable new) breast cancer.  Small tumor, additional DCIS  only in one breast but did other one just to be safe!  Nodes were negative and no sign of ca anywhere else in my body.  I took Tamoxifen for 3 1/2 years and then developed uterine cancer!  

    At the time, they did not know if my ca was ER+ but assumed it was as I was 50 and was not menopausal yet.

    My new cancer is ER+ an there is no evidence of spread.  My oncotype score is 17.5 so no chemo for me.  I am starting radiation on Monday for 6 weeks 5 days a week.  Then Arimidex, which I dread because of all the awful side effects everyone talks about!

    Dressagerider66---Ingrid 

  • lollybeth
    lollybeth Member Posts: 56
    edited February 2009

    Ingrid,

     Do you remember why you were given tamoxifen after a bilateral?  I didn't think they did that if you has DCIS....

  • scareds
    scareds Member Posts: 77
    edited February 2009

    I took tamoxifen for 5 years after bc in my right breast (DCIS). I went off the tamoifen in Nov. '08; was diagnosed with tamoxifen in left breast in Dec. '08. It didn't work for me.

  • IllinoisNancy
    IllinoisNancy Member Posts: 722
    edited April 2011

    I took Tamoxifen from 2/07 until 10/10 when I had a local recurrence in the same breast, same area.  I had a lumpectomy, rads and tamoxifen the first time.  This time I had a 20 weeks of chemo followed by bilateral mx, lat flap on cancer side since it had been radiated and now I'm on Armidex.  I hope I got it this time.  The worst part of it all is the worry and depression about it coming back.  Another interesting fact that I had was the first time my oncotypedx was only  a 9 so they told me chemo would be of no value yet this time they said chemo was  necessary.  Same kind of cancer both times, Pleomorphic ILC.  Also my mammogram on the day of dx was perfect.  I also had a PET scan which was perfect and a MRI that did detect it.  My BS is the one who found it.  Good luck!

  • tigsun
    tigsun Member Posts: 177
    edited April 2011

    I was on tamoxifen for 4 and half years when my DCIS was discovered.  My onc told I could stop taking it because it failed for me.  I wanted to get off tamoxifen due to weight gain but this wasn't the reason i wanted to stop.

  • pejkug3
    pejkug3 Member Posts: 902
    edited April 2011

    Interesting to read everyone's experience with Tamoxifen.

    I plan to address the drug more with my onc.  I'm hesitant to take it.  How much will it decrease my recurrence risk?  He told me it only works for 50% of the population (or something like that...)  That's a discouraging stat.

    I'm in chemo now and had a period.  Great.  I have a feeling that is a bad sign.  :(

  • Gin52
    Gin52 Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2011

    2001 had lumpectomy, rads, and then tamoxifen for er+/pr+ small tumor in rt breast.  In 2009 had bi lat mast due to cancer again in rt breast, only this time it was er/pr- and her2+++, so it was a new primary in the same breast, not a reoccurance...

  • Elaine77
    Elaine77 Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2011

    I was diagnosed with breast cancer in my left breast in 1999.  After chemo and radiation I took Tamoxifen for five years.  Now in April 2011 I was diagnosed with breast cancer in my right breast.  After testing, will have to do TCH chemo. 

  • mrsbeasley38
    mrsbeasley38 Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2011

    Your bs found it in an exam?

  • Gin52
    Gin52 Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2011

    Mrsbeasley38 - not sure who you were asking, but both times mine were found by mammo.  Both were too small to be felt

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited May 2011
    pejkug3, the number I heard is that Tamoxifen can reduce your risk by 50%. i.e. if your risk of recurrence is, say 20% in 15 yrs, taking Tami for 5 yrs would reduce the risk to 10%. i.e. if 100 women (with your same Dx) took it, 10 would avoid a recurrence due to Tami; 10 would still get it, despite taking Tami; 80 would never have had a recurrence, with or without Tami. The hard part is knowing who is who. I have my concerns about the risk/reward of Tami too, but I'm leaning towards taking it. (I just finished rads and will meet w/ my MO in two weeks) Sometimes all these stats make me feel like my head will explode. (and I'm a engineer, used the dealing with numbers all day. But when it comes to BC stats, oy!) Good luck.
  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited August 2011

    I took tamoxifen for3 years and Aromasin for 2 years.  I have a recurrence at 9.5 years; however, totally DCIS this time,  Oncologist believes the the tamoxifen and radiation probably "killed" the invasive cancer, but only suppressed the DCIS.   So I think the tamoxifen didn't "fail" for me; as it took care of the more dangerous cells.  While I am sorry I have a recurrence, I'm glad it's DCIS.

  • Mina1
    Mina1 Member Posts: 50
    edited November 2011

    I had first breast cancer 2007 DCIS and Invasive cribiform carcinoma 1.4cm had partial masectomy followed by radiation. Tolerated tamoxifen for only 7-9 months. 2011 Recurrent breast cancer DCIS micrinvasion1.2 cm and Invasive cribiform carcinoma .9cm.

    I was cancer free for just a little less than 4 years with only 7-9 months tamoxifen eaxh cancer was highly estrogen and progesterone positive. The side effects were very bad fatigue, cognitive issues such as decreased concentration, focusing, memory, problem solving, pelvic pain tightness and dryness in vagina, painful intercourse. Had no choice but to stop.

    Wow there are recurrent stories with tamoxifen as well. Nothing makes sense.

    Mina

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