article - Diet and Lifestyle Influences in BC

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  • bourscheid
    bourscheid Member Posts: 718
    edited December 2008

    Very interesting.  This is exactly the thing the nurtitionist at the cancer center I go to recommended.  It's not easy but I am trying!  Must get back on the lowfat bandwagon now that Christmas is over.  I've been badTongue out

    Thanks for the link!

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited December 2008

    Hi cp, thanks for posting the article-- sounds like a good plan to follow for the new year!!

    Mary Jo

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited December 2008

    Hey there Bourscheid-- just noticed you are in Murphy NC-- we're neighbors!  Just curious-- which cancer center do you use?  I went to Hope A Women's Cancer Center in Asheville for surgeon and chemo and went to Dr. Thomas in Sylva for my radiation.

    I have been bad too, really really bad.  I gained weight during chemo and can't seem to get "with it" to get it off, but thanks to Cp418's post, we've got some great guidelines now!

    Take care and Happy New Year!

    Mary Jo

  • Farrah
    Farrah Member Posts: 566
    edited December 2008

    Does anyone know if different causative factors are involved in non estrogen/progesterone receptive breast cancer?

  • car
    car Member Posts: 492
    edited December 2008

    My onc recommended dietary change (I'm already an exercise nut) and recommended Walter Willett's book (easily Google-able) which is based on results of the Nurses and Professionals studies (he's at Harvard). I find it easy to follow and some recent articles suggest that these changes, especially low BMI, can lower risk substantially.

    Farrah raises an interesting question, though, since estrogen levels and women's body fat are related. Thumbing through what I have here in the office doesn't turn up any articles that have looked at that--I think I need to get on MEDLINE.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited December 2008

    Funny... this diet and excersise has ALWAYS been my life. I still got BC. I am er/pr- though.. maybe there is something different for us her2+ and triple -

    Wish there was something for us FOR SURE to stop recurrence... I sure wish they new.

  • car
    car Member Posts: 492
    edited December 2008

    Well, from what I've been reading there's a stronger link between BMI, exercise and BC than a low-fat diet. Like you, Estepp, I've kept a good diet and healthy level of physical activity. However, the diet my onc suggested (Walter Willet's the author of the book describing it, based on Nurses & Professionals studies) does limit animal protein quite a bit and recommends more fruit and vegetables than the US guidelines. And, he and my PS both say that they would like me to stay at this weight, which is the lowest I've been--ever. I've gone from a petite 4 to a petite 2 and am 105 (5'2"). To me, that's pretty gaunt but I do feel good on the diet.

  • digger
    digger Member Posts: 590
    edited December 2008

    I'm 5'4'' and 105 pounds.  I've always been very active, loving pretty much every sport there is.  I ski, bike, run, lift, you name it, I do it.  I also eat really healthy.  Just whole grains, good protein, lots of fruit and vegetables.  Still, I got ER+ BC.  So, while it obviously doesn't hurt to have a low BMI and follow a certain eating regimen, at least in my opinion, you can still get ER+ breast cancer.  Oh, and there is absolutely no history of BC in my family, so I don't have the gene for it either.  I was tested for it nonetheless, just in case, and it was negative.  BC was quite a shock for me as well as anyone else who knew me. 

  • gymgirl
    gymgirl Member Posts: 121
    edited December 2008

    Thanks for posting the link. I'm willing to read anything that might be helpful. I have been an active exerciser and eaten healthfully all my life, but even more so in the last 30 years. I'm 5'6" and been 125-130 lbs since high school. I do have a family history of cancer though so I guess it finally caught up to me at age 56. My BC was ER+. I really felt defeated this fall. After years of being healthy I ended up with cancer anyway. All the surgeries and the meds, all the doctor visits, the changes in my life; it's been tough to stay positive about exercising. For a couple of months I ate too much and didn't work out like normal so I put on about 5 lbs (you know, I got cancer anyway so why bother?) But I hate it when my pants are tight. So now I'm back to eating carefully and going to the gym every day again and I feel so much better. Maybe us ER+ girls need to be even more vigilant about diet.

  • car
    car Member Posts: 492
    edited December 2008

    Hey, gymgirl (sounds like a screen name I'd pick).

    I'd never blame anyone for getting cancer due to dietary and exercise habits. Like you I've led an active and healthy lifestyle to the point that my onc said I'd never get osteoporosis based on the bone density scan he ran (I'm 54 and tested in the range of a 40 year old). Considering I eat very little dairy, I attribute that to my exercise which includes cycling (before my dx I regularly rode centuries, 100 mile rides), weight training, and Pilates.

    So I got BC w/no risk factors other than age and having no kids. However, my onc (who is extraordinary) is so strong on lifestyle management that I've tweaked (his words) my diet even more to prevent recurrence. Who knows if it really will? But this is something that is under my control that I can do to fight recurrence.

  • digger
    digger Member Posts: 590
    edited December 2008

    Car,

    I'm curious if you know anything about the dairy.  I don't like milk, but I do like yogurt and cheese.  I try to stay away from too much cheese, given its fat content, but I've really been enjoying some of the Fage 0% fat Greek plain yogurt every day.  It's basically got no sugar and loads of protein.  I mix it with high fiber low sugar cereal.  Why does dairy get a such a bad rap?  Is it the high sugar content in some of the fruited or flavored yogurts?  Just curious...

  • car
    car Member Posts: 492
    edited December 2008

    Well, my friend has my book, but if I remember correctly Willett says 2 servings of dairy/day are fine. I use that up w/my a.m. lattes (I decided to live a spoiled life post-dx and bought an Italian cappuccino machine). I believe that his concern is more w/reducing the amount of animal-based protein (he also restricts eggs--I do eat 2 4-5 oz salmon fillets/week) in exchange for nuts and legumes.

    His book argues that the US guidelines don't distinguish between good/bad fats (thus, his diet encourages you to eat olive oil, walnut oil, etc. and avoid saturated fat) and that the guidelines also should consider animal proteins and legumes/nuts as separate categories, w/more calories coming from the latter. 

    I hope this makes sense. Oh--as a P.S. it's possible that the diet encourages you to take a calcium/Vit. D supplement. I take it anyway along w/magnesium on my onc's suggestion for leg cramps and my bone density scan indicates I have the bones of someone 10 years younger and am at no risk of osteoporosis, so I don't worry much about my dairy intake.

  • digger
    digger Member Posts: 590
    edited December 2008

    Interesting, thanks.  I'll have to pick his book up.  I do eat a lot of chicken, so maybe that's not so good.  But I do love those vegetables and fruits from Whole Foods, so I'll continue with those.  I have osteopenia in my spine (I'm 47 but have had it for a while...I'm small-boned and my mom has osteoporosis, so that's probably expected), so I better start taking those calcium supplements.

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