Any Her2/Neu Starting Chemo in October?

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    ango - I'm sorry that you have to feel crummy for Thanksgiving, and about the terrible 3's - but find strength in knowing both WILL pass, LOL!  I have already changed tx7 from Dec 24 to the 23rd so that I will, hopefully, be feeling better Christmas day. 

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!!  I had the best Thanksgiving I have ever known today, and that gave me one more thing to be thankful for... today.  I hope everyone had a good one, and if you didn't - take a chance tomorrow to make it a day you will be thankful for!

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2008

    Chelli- Glad you had a good Thanksgiving.  Mine was good as well, just a little tired and achey.  I have tried to PM you but when I do it keeps telling me to put something into the "TO" box and when I try to it wont let me and then I can't sent it.  I will get it figured out.

    At my appointment Wed. the doctor took a look at my nails.  She said I might lose some of them.  I have some that look bruised underneath the nail and are a little sore.  Okay, loosing my hair was bad enough but not my nails. Has anyone lost any?  I'm wondering if they will just fall off in one piece or will they chip off, will it hurt?

    Angie

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited November 2008

    HI guys,  Just thought I would check in.  I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.  I had chemo Wed... head shaved Tuesday.  It's been quite the week.  I feel OK.  My sleeping is so off it is hard to tell what is related to the chemo and what is due to lack of sleep.  I am sure it is a combination.  The hair thing threw me for a loop so I am getting use to that.  I am more achey this time around.  My little hairs on my head "hurt" some too.  I was wondering if anyone else's skin broke out???  My face is breaking out and I am hoping this is something that will pass.

    I also was curious what type of head coverings people used when they were around the house?  I am wearing a wig when I go out and to work (tomorrow will be the first day) but was curious what people had found they liked around the house that is comfortable yet somewhat "cute"?  Is any of it cute?  HA!

    Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well!

    Cristl

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited December 2008

    Cristl- I broke out horribly my first and second treatments.  I never even broke out like that as a teenager but the last two tx's I haven't.  The chemo seems to be making my skin really dry so I have been super moisterizing the last couple treatments, I don't know if that made a difference or not.

    I have a ton of things I wear around the house.  My aunt has made me a ton of hats, I think I have one for everyday of the month.  I also have a couple of halos and scarfs. The halo's are really cute and comfy. At first I didn't even want to see my head and always wore something but now I go comando around the house. I've been having hot flashes so the wigs and hats are really hot.

  • eileen54
    eileen54 Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2008

    Hi

    My name is eileen and I would like to join your group. I had a double masectomy in Aug and did not think I would need chemo as I was told my tumor was 1 cm and confined to only the breast.

    I had both remove just to be safe. I just discovered that I had 24 nodes removed tow of which had cancer and a small amount of cancer was found in my left breast. My doctor told me i am cancer free but the oncologist wants to start chemo.

    I am having a port put in on monday and I was wondering what to expect with this procedure.

    I hope your all doing well and that someone will take the time to talk with me.

    eileenSmile

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited December 2008

    Cristl, depending on how cold the day is, I wear a scarf (cotton), a denim bucket hat, or a knit cap (a stocking cap) or fleece cap. I find that without hair to get in the way, I can tie on a scarf pretty quickly. Sometimes I don't untie it when I slip it off and just slip it back on without needing to tie it. I often end up changing several times a day depending on whether I'm too hot or too cold. Somehow my hair was always just right.

    I like this bucket hat from TLC because it has multiple colors so it goes with a lot of things. I got some scarves from anokihiusa.com that tie on really easily. I also got some scarves with sparkly threads from Tzniu.com. That site has good tying instructions.

    I had a minor skin break out the first chemo cycle (about 7 white heads) but it cleared up pretty quickly and didn't happen the second time. I have had some acne on my scalp too. My doctor gave me a lotion that cleared that up. 

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited December 2008

    Hi eileen, welcome to our group though I'm sorry you have to be here.

    TNT posted a detailed description of her port placement that is pinned to the top of the Chemo forum. My port placement was pretty much the same as what she describes though it sounds like some ports use a vein close to the lungs instead of the juglar and have just one incision.

    Which chemo drugs are you getting? 

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited December 2008

    Apparently I spoke to soon. I woke up this morning (day 15 of chemo #2) with a small break out - about 5 pimples. And I think there are a couple on the back of my head too. It looks lovely with the small dry peeling patch a few inches away on my cheek.

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    Hi CristlC - I just had my head shaved on Saturday and I have been wearing nothing on my head around the house except a turban if I feel like it.  I purchased a few before my chemo started and I can see where they will come in handy over the winter.  I did wear a wig when I went out for a bit on Saturday.  I didn't find the wig to be very comfortable, though and I must confess that I feel the best with nothing on my head.  Regarding the breakouts, those are caused by the steroids.  My dermatologist calls it "steroid acne".  This is very common and I noticed with my skin, that it cleared up on its own in a week or so.  I have been using Eucerin lotion on my face everyday to keep it moisturized.

    Welcome eileen54!  This is a great place to gather information and meet others who are in the same boat as yourself.  Good luck with your chemo treatments......just remember to hang tough and come here if you need support.  Once the first chemo treatment is over with you will see that you can relax a bit since it is not "unknown" anymore". 

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2008

    Hi All.  I had my 4th and last AC yesterday YAY YAY...no more red devil. so far so good today with the nausea. Just a little compare to the last 3 rounds. I did eat a nice dinner last night and drank a lot of fluids yesterday which for sure made a difference. Let's see how the next few days go. I usually feel pretty lousy for about 4 days after. regarding breakouts...I had some on my head the first week or so and figured out it was from the shampoo I was using. I realized I did no need to actually wash it everyday with shampoo. I started using my face soap (ether basis or marykay stuff) and the breakouts stopped. I have to wear something on my head all the time it seems, except when I sleep. It gets super cold.

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    Strongmom - congratulations on your last AC.  I hope that you are still faring well.

    I am slowly getting used to my new "almost hairless" head.  I guess it's all how you look at things, but once I decided that I wasn't going to let my hairless noggin' bring me down anymore, I stopped crying and started accepting it.....sigh.

    Next week.....TCH #3. 

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    Hi all... just wanted to let you know that I got my 5th of 6 TCH txs yesterday.  For the first time I'm get Neulasta today.  Trying not to be nervous about the HORROR STORIES I've read about side effects.  Heck, I've made it though 5 chemos ok, right?

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    Hi klfh....Only one more to go.  Congratulations. 

    Try taking a Claritin 24 hour and an Aleve right after the shot.  Then take them for the next two days.  You should be fine.

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited December 2008

    I too am getting a little more use to looking at my bald head.  I think you are right... hair is gone and you finally just have to accept it.  I keep my wig on though... except at night.  My hairdresser had a human hair wig made for me and the scapl part is so thin I don't even realize most of the time that it is on.

    Strongmom - Congrats on the last AC!!

    I had my 5th (out of 12 weekly) Taxol+Herceptin yesterday.  Rather uneventful and am happy to get each one done with!  I was even able to sleep last night. They lowered the decadron even more which helped I think.

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2008

    for those ladies who are now on the Taxol+Herceptin, how much decadron do you get? Is it just for the day of and few days after treatment? I will be doing weekly treatments and would rather not be on steroids that whole time...12 weeks. I am just praying that the horrible nausea I had with A/C does not continue with T+H. I can take aches and pains and even some neuropothy..no more nausea!!

  • Mocity
    Mocity Member Posts: 451
    edited December 2008

    strongmom,

    I didn't do the AC..... I am doing the 12 weeks of  Taxol+Herceptin weekly.  I just #5 yesterday and haven't been nauseaous yet.  I heard the taxol is pretty easy compared to the AC.

    They give me Decadron the before I get the Taxol on the day of.  I don't take it any days before or after.  I keep getting them to lower it each time because I hate it keeping me up.  I am down to 6mg's and that is it.

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    Strongmom, I am doing Taxotere, carboplatin and herceptin and only get the decadron as part of my premeds during the treatment.  I don't have too much trouble with nausea and after the first night, it doesn't really keep me up.  Even that first night it doesn't keep me up the whole night, I'm just kind of restless. 

    I got the neulasta today.  So far so good.  We'll see how I feel tomorrow.  Gotta take the kids to see Santa! 

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited December 2008

    I took 2 Dec the night before, it was in my meds the day of and 2 the morning after. I finished my 4 rds of Chemo today ! Yeah!!. Now it's on to Herceptin every3/yr and Arimidex for 5 yrs. I'm not thrilled about the new SE's I will be dealing with. It seems like this never ends. We just have to get over 1 hurdle at a time.

    Linda

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    klfh, your TCH is the same as mine.  They upped my decadron to 4 the day before and 4 each day for three days.  I was VERY uncomfortable with this.  The last time I only took 2 a day for three days and they seemed much more manageable. 

    Why did they lower yours?

    I will most certainly ask the doctor to lower my dose this month.

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2008

    Had my first Taxol/Herceptin yesterday. I hate to jinx anything but I feel almost normal this morning. I had such awful effects from my A/C that maybe these new side effects are just so mild I am ignoring them! I did have a f/u Muga scan last Thursday and my stats droped from 58 pre A/C to 51%. She went ahead and gave me the Herceptin anyway but is sending me for another Muga on Friday. She said the stats can very depending on who is reading them and what time of day it is given so not worry right now. Why does this poison we have to take to kill of our cancers have to be so unforgiving sometimes.

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    my2boys - sorry for the delay in my response!  I never had a higher dose of decadron. 

    Here's my update... I have ONE treatment left,  on Christmas Eve, no less.  I saw my surgeon last week and while my tumor is significantly smaller, it is shrinking in a swiss cheese pattern.  BS is recommending a mastectomy.  I decided to go ahead and have the other girl removed too.  I don't want to be right back here in 5 years, you know?  I have two little kids to raise.  

    So my surgery is 1/21.  I've already had 6 nodes out and BS doesn't think we'll need to remove any more.  I am not sure about rads yet.  

    Hope everyone is well.  

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    Thanks klfh....My oncologist lowered my decadron this time and I handled it MUCH better.

    Congratulations on your last treatment.  It will be great to put this all behind you at year's end.  I had a double mastectomy a few months ago (before chemo) and I did it for pretty much the same reasons you are.....time goes so quickly.

    As your surgery approaches....we will all be here for you.

    Anne

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    Thanks so much Anne.  Any suggestions on what I should do to get ready for surgery?

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited December 2008

    Klfh - Here are a few things I did beforehand that really made a difference.  I purchased several button up the front and zip up the front outfits.  You probably won't be able to get anything over your head for a little while.  I made sure that the bras that I purchased for use with my expanders closed in the front.  Also, pajamas that buttoned up the front were a big help.  You won't be able to drive for a few weeks, so make sure that your prescriptions, etc. are all filled ahead of time.  Arrange for transportation for your children so you're not worrying about trying to cart them from activity to activity.  One more thing.....if you regularly use items that are on the top shelf of your cabinet/closets....move them down to a lower shelf for the time being.  You won't be able to reach up high for a little while.

    It's definitely a doable surgery.....a bit uncomfortable for a few days, but not the worst thing in the world.  Once the drains are out and the scars begin to heal....you won't believe how quickly it came and went.  I'm still having my expanders filled while going through chemo, so I know that the road is a bit longer for me, but the initial surgery was worse in my imagination than it actually turned out to be. 

    Best of luck to you.

    Anne

  • terrilee
    terrilee Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2008

    I haven't posted in some time, mostly because reading about SEs was making me nauseous. I've finished my 4 rounds of A/C, thank goodness. The worst of it was mouth sores which I learned to control with Aloe Vera juice and thrush which was helped by grapefruit seed extract drops. The Rx stuff made me ill, so I'm glad to have found alternatives, especially since I seem to be getting thrush again after my first Taxol/Herceptin treatment Friday. My main concern now is the numbness I got during the infusion in my hands and face. It was before they started the Taxol, and my oncologist thought it was from the Benedryl or steriod. Today, Sunday, the numbness in my face started again. Not bad, and it isn't getting worse. But worrisome. And I haven't seen anyone else mention it. My oncologist promised to lower the IV Benedryl dose next time. Maybe she will consider lowering the steriod as well? Thanks for sharing that.

     Otherwise I feel much better than after the A/C. I even made it to yoga class yesterday.

    I'm beginning to see lack of hair as a blessing. One less thing to deal with when I'm trying to get to work. I have just enough stubble to hold on a scarf or hat. I do hope my eyelashes grow back in though. My eyes are pretty sensitive these days. 

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited December 2008

    So how is everybody doing?  This thread has been pretty quite.  I just had my #5 tx of TCH(avastin) #6.  One big one to go then I'm off to just Herceptin and Avastin.  I can hardly wait for the last one, I would do it today if they would give it to me. 

    Terrilee, congrats on your #4.  I don't get mouth sores but more like throat sores.  I haven't tried the Aloe vera juice but I will.  I was told to tell the chemo nurse if I got any numbness in my hands or feet.  I guess they will give you a block of ice to hold and that is suppose to help. I am very lucky and haven't had any numbness or tingling yet.

    Take care,

    Angie

  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    Thank you Anne.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2008

    Today was #7 for me, only one left.  And, luckily, like #6 there have been no SE's.  Only the sore back, just rest when it starts hurting.  We're leaving town for Christmas for a few days and after spending last week in the hosp, I'm on a cleaning spree.  Trying to get the last gifts wrapped and delivered around here, then we go to dh's family for a few, it'll be so great to get away, it's been such a horrible month in so many ways!  Definitely getting to the end of chemo, talking about next steps (surg, rads, reconstruction - yay - ), those are good things.  And my son moved back in with us (that's a headstrong 19yo boy, GREAT THING, he needs to be here with us) and we got his GED test results on Friday - HE PASSED!!!  I'm so proud of him for picking up his messy pieces and getting back to real life.  He starts trade school in January for welding, which he has talked about doing since starting high school.  So I have some good that happened this month.  But he took the rough road to get there.  Anyway... hope everyone is doing well and has a wonderful holiday season!

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited December 2008

    I'm half way through at #3.. My next chemo is on Monday. It will be a long day because I also have a CT that evening. There is a shadow on my lung X-ray that needs to be checked out with the CT. I've had that done once before many years ago when it turned out to be a calcium nodule around scar tissue (because of a period when I had a lot of breathing problems and had pneumonia a few times). The nodule had gone away on later follow-up X-rays. This looks pretty rounded and well defined so I we hope it is just a calcium nodule again. Lung cancer is usually not smooth.

    This has been a tough cycle for me. I had a lot of nausea and some vomiting in the second week. Apparently that is a side-effect of the Neupogen shots for me. Funny that I don't get any from the actual chemo and then Neupogen knocks me down so badly. But the first cycle when my white cells crashed was worse so I'll have to cope with this. My nausea meds, Zophran and Compazine, weren't doing any good. They prescribed Ativan for me to try next time.

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited December 2008

    Had my second Taxol/Hercepton on Monday. This has been a breeze for me in the SE department compared to AC. Other than the terrible chest cold I have now there has been no other issues. Thank Goodness! I am so not in the Christmas spirit and I need to be with a 5 and 3 year old! My husband has done all the shopping for them this year thank goodness or there would be no Santa. Next year will better for all of us here!

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