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  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited November 2008

    Hi all. Carolyn, thanks for checking on me. I am done with A/C and yes, onto Taxol (12 weeks) on Friday. My sinuses, hoarse voice and runny nose and fatigue are my intermittent side effects. I do get very tired in the p.m.; usually in bed by 9 but still tend to be restless at night. 

    I have anxiety about Taxol - though a few of you say the side effects are less, the falling nails etc. have me a bit freaked out.Oh well, psych up the for next chapter. 

    My pit (node) recovery is better and am going to a trainer who is doing some PT with me. I am still so curious about whether I am getting avastin. I must say I am loving my scarves and hats - spent a fortune, but actually dont mind it. I never would have guessed.

    u2av8r -I struggled a bit when considering the trial, but I am fairly sturdy. I decided to go for it -- there is certainly enough upside potential and experience with this to date to make it worth it. You can always stop if side effects pop up that have you concerned. You just dont get a chance to revisit the option for the earliest, most aggressive treatment. I think the same thing about radiation - though I am on the cusp, I will opt for it - I just feel like I have to use every arsenal available.

    My family is going to Grand Wailea in July - even if I get the xtra avastin, that should work for me. Can't wait! 

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited November 2008

    Hi Keyl,

     Congrats to being done w/the red devil! I personally thought Taxol was much easier at the beginning.  Towards the end I had some hurting fingernails BUT never lost one or even a toenail while going thru treatments.  ALSO, my hair started growin back at week 7 or 8. Glad to hear you are doing the PT for your nodes.  I have been going to PT for my thumb and shoulders.  I go to my cancer center next week to meet w/a different PT for their program. The hospital owns a work out facility w/a pool and I can get into the program for free (3 months).  I can either join a cancer workout group of have a personal trainer which I think is the way I will be going.  Did your onc. give you anything for nights to help you sleeep?  I did Lorazapam which helped me get some sleep at night.  I weened myself off this summer due to they don't work after taking 2 of them for 7 months.  I am good now.  Once in a while i take Melatonin but that's more when my husband is snoring and I can't sleep.  Well, good to hear you are moving onto the next chapter!  You sound great.

    Carolyn

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited November 2008

    thanks.lst taxol down. feeling ok. they put benedryl in my mix and I slept like a baby. I think the techs are poker face for the most but several said my reports all looked good and they think I am getting avastin based on some of the sides. Now, I have been here long enought to know no certainty on that. .

    appt. with the radiologist on 12/9  for post chemo radiation consultatation; I am borderline but would prefer to go for it. It will delay my last recontsruction surgery for one year. ugh

    I am a little sad that my husband didnt go with me today; while I dont want to force it on him; would also like to reinforce the reality through experience - it is just not another golf game.

    Thanks goodness a friend took me, as I conked out in the care. :) For those of you out there, let your friends and family help. sometimes I am not good at that.

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited November 2008

    Hi All,

     Well, I finished my 10th tx of Avastin yesterday!! Onc. thinks eveything is going hunky dory.  I celebrated today w/my girlfriend who took me out to get my 1st pedicure.  Boy do my toes look great!! I have one more appt for ekg/echocardio the beginning of Dec.  I will follow that up w/an appt w/my onc.  He says we will wait a couple of months before taking port out.  No need to rush things.  I agreed.  He says that the Avastin should be out of my system in 6 weeks or so.  He is excited to see what my sinuis's do after that.  I hope for them to get back to normal.  Well, hope everyone is doing well and keeping their heads above water due to the holidays are around the corner.

    Take Care all,

    Carolyn

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited November 2008

    Ladies,

    Still in spain having a great time and the stories i could tell if not for everyone could see. I  am trying to see what everyone is  up  to but not much time, will be back in the states on thanksgiving, everyone have a great holiday and keep writing and i will catch up when i return. It is very warm and storing as much vitamin D as i can.

    take care,

  • cjw
    cjw Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2008

    Keryl

    I am in the "maybe" group for radiation and decided to go for it. I figure there is little downside. I had my first treatment today which wasn't a big deal. The biggest hassle is the daily commute into the city, but I figured its only 6 weeks and in the end I want to do all i can.

    Good luck with your consult and decision

    carol

  • PinkVelvet
    PinkVelvet Member Posts: 64
    edited December 2008

    I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving.  I had a lot to give thanks for....being done with chemo, being alive.

    Tomorrow I have a busy day.  I have a heart scan, followed by the removal of my port (!) and then meet with onc. to discuss tamoxifen.  I'm very excited to have port removed - I've never really liked it much.

    My fingernails are very sore and some have turned a redish/yellowish color.  It feels as though the nails are loose.  Has anyone else had this?  Does this mean that I might lose a nail?

    I've had a bad cold for the past 2 1/2 weeks.  My brain wasn't working very well before I caught the cold and now I'm really slow-headed.  I hope it goes away soon.

    I hope everyone's doing well.  

    Jen 

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited December 2008

    carol, thanks. I am confident that I will go for it with radiation also, as I believe in using my full "arsenal" of weapons.  was reconstruction any part of your picture? I already had immediate reconstruction, but really need to exchange the implant and then also address other breast.  I swear the little port in the expander type implant is sticking out oddly against my scar. I hate it.  Radiation will set this last surgery back a significant amount, but I will just have to tolerate that as the the lesser issue.

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Hi All,

     Seems like things have been quite to all maybe due to the holidays.  Jen, in regards to the fingernails/toenails.  I did not have issues while going thru chemo except for some tenderness on the nails.  Here I am, just finished the 10th Avastin and I just lost 1/2 of my big toenail!  My last standard chemo treatment was May 5th...Everyone is different.  My nails did lift and become FUNKY but did not fall off.  I lost my baby toenail,. but I really did have much of a toenail to begin with.

    My Onc. said that the last of the avastin should be out of my system w/in 6-7 weeks.  I have an EKG/Echo scheduled for this Friday.  I will meet w/him on Monday to discuss results and when I can schedule w/my surgeon to get the port out.  I will be happy with it out.  December 7th will be 1 year since I had my port surgery.  I am still fighting fatigue.  I don't expect things to be like they were but just want the energy back.  Good luck to you girls going thru the radiation.  Make sure you get plenty of rest and take care of the area w/the lotion they give you. Hopefully it will go by fast.  Good night for now!

    Carolyn

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited December 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    I will be one year out from my surgery, which was Dec 11th.  I am having scan done on my neck and chest asap.  I am having some pain.  I'm scared.  AGAIN.  I'll write more later

    Teresa

  • debk55
    debk55 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2008

    Hi All,

    I just had my 3rd AC/? avastin friday.  ANd I have been SO sleepy since sunday I can hardly stay awake  at all. DH had to drive me back for neulasata shot. 

    Have any of you worked thru the taxol's and did they make you really tired?? Or what were you SEs??   I was hoping to go back to work in feb. I wont be done with this trial til about mar 20th.

    {{{{{{Teresa}}}}}  Hang in there what pain are you having?  Maybe just some funky URI??  You will be be in my thoughts & prayers.  Deb :)

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Teresa,

    Keep the faith. Think positive thoughts! My 1yr mark was October 30th!! Hopefully you are having some of the creeks I have been having. I am doing PT still.   I won't give it up til I feel much better.  I hope to hear from you soon w/good news. Sending a hug your way.

    Carolyn

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Hi Deb,

    Congrates on #3! You are almost done the first phase!  I don't think the Taxol was evil like the AC.  I worked thru it but took an hour here and there if needed.  I slept a lot during both AC and Taxol. It did get better w/Taxol though.  SE's were minimal. My nose ran (and is still running!), tender finger/toenails (some folks will loose them but don't fret over something you have no control over), fatigue, some achiness.  I think the rest can give their take on it.  Maybe talking w/your boss about your plan to work but may have to leave if you get tired.  We are all different.  Keep your chin up, you are doing great!

    Carolyn 

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Brena,

     Are you back from Spain yet?  I hope you are feeling better.  The Vit D was probably GREAT! Did you have any good Sangria? Take in any spectacular sights?  Well, I need to finish up here and head to PT then off to pick up daughter at BBall.

    Carolyn

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited December 2008

    deb, I finished A/C and will have my 3rd taxol -- this week. I have been working M-W, off on TH and Fridays. My treatment day is usually TH, recovery on Friday and the weekend.

    Work is do-able, with some flexibility. I do work at home some - taxol sides arent so great for me. I actually thought A/C was about the same. 

  • PinkVelvet
    PinkVelvet Member Posts: 64
    edited December 2008

    Deb - one more A/C to go!  Psychologically, I really perked up after I had my last A/C - even though I still didn't feel good physically, I knew I wouldn't have A/C again.  The Taxol was better than the A/C, although I noticed a lot more fatigue (e.g., arms and legs felt as if they were made of concrete so moving took a lot of effort) than with the A/C.  Also, my brain was very slow while on Taxol and still is.  I was able to take breaks at work if needed, which really helped. 

    Teresa - my thoughts and prayers are with you.  Hearing you say "I'm scared" brings back all those feelings I had when I was waiting for test results.  Keep us posted and hang in there.... 

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited December 2008

    Hi everyone,

    I'm hanging in there.  I had my bone scan and CT today.  I bet everything will be just fine.  I just hate the stress of doing tests, you know?  I saw the second PS about reconstruction.  I really liked him, he was very down to earth and was a very positive guy.  If I decide to go through with it, I will be having surgery Feb 9th.  He thinks that will give me plenty of time to heal before the cruise!  Which is very important to me.

    I will let you all know when I get the resolutes. 

    Carolyn, do you consider your one year the day of diagnoses or surgery?

    Teresa

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Teresa,

    I consider the day of surgery since that is when they took the lump out.  Sounds like you are doing better since you had the scans.  I'm glad to hear that.  I had my EKG/Echo on Friday and the tech told me everything looks really good.  She said there was no change either from my last one back in September.  I have an appt tomorrow w/my onc to talk about my ekg/echo and to decide when I will get my port out.  I am thinking the end of January would be good to me.  My nose is still acting up.  Can't wait for it to get back to a normal nose.  I had a bit of a headache today. Not sure if it was the winter carnival w/all the kids or just my sinuis pressure causing it.  It snowed today!  I hope to have a white christmas.  I think I am going to take a nap due to this days busy activities that have pooped me out.  I really should exercise but am just to tired!

    Hope all is well with everyone else.

    Carolyn 

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited December 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    Sorry I havn't written sooner but I have a few things going on that are taking much of my time. My dad's health is not doing well so I will fly to Texas to visit with him over the holiday.

    I have been wrapping up some of my Dr. appointments so I can start the new year with minimal appointments. I had a "balance test" performed today in hope it will identify the symptoms of my head, mentioned earlier. I will call the Neurologist in a couple of days and if all is normal I will cancel my scheduled appointment in January. If the results don't show something wrong then she cannot help me.

    I also went for my digital mammo last week and guess what...they want me back in six months for further evaluation of my cancer breast. I think they are being overly cautious so I don't see the need at this point. Will reevaluate in 6 months, but will probably lean toward a one year mammo. I don't have much faith in the mammo process. 

    All other tests; MUGA, Bone scan, EKG and blood work were fine. I am as healthy as a horse! My MUGA score increased from 57% to 61% and I think the improvement was do to the excercising that I have done over the last year. Made good results!! I did get copies of my blood work which was drawn the same day as my lumpectomy. Also blood work results from my initial consultation with my Onc, just before chemo. Guess what, all my blood work results were normal meaning within acceptable range. Now my question, how could I have cancer and absolutely all blood work was normal?I was expecting to have some abnormal results to indicate something was wrong. Now it begs the question which I will ask at my next Onc visit, if my blood work was normal while I had cancer why am I having bloodwork done every three months? Both of my trials require bloodwork drawn and a physical but I don't understand why the blood work if it didn't show I was sick.

    be back later, need to get back to work

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited December 2008

    Welcome back Brena.  I too, am going thru testing right now.  Just had a bone scan and a CT scan (neck and chest) I heard back today that the bone scan is clear...yea!!!....no word yet on the CT scan.

    I'm so sorry to hear about your dad.  I hope he gets better soon.  I hope you had a wonderful trip!

    Teresa

  • S3K5
    S3K5 Member Posts: 606
    edited December 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I just finished my 19th Rad treatment today. Some swelling and pain in the radiated area.

    Teresa,  how long did your sinus congestion last after stopping Avastin? I finished my Taxol on 10th Oct and Avastin in Sept last week. My sinus congestion (blood clots) hasn't gone away at all - I still use the saline rinse to clear the nasal passages! The ENT was of no help - told me to ride it out, it will eventually get better.
    Muscle pain (due to Taxol) isn't getting better either! Legs feel like lead! When will I feel close to 'normal'?

    Brena, welcome back. Hope you had a relaxing trip. 

    I hope everyone is doing okay, with minimal SE's.  

    Take care,

    Desi. 

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited December 2008

    Desi,

    Did you say you finished Avastin in Sept and you still have sinus pain and issues???? Well shit.  I stopped on Nov 10 and I was just put on antibotics yesterday for a sinus infection...again.  I am so sick of this stuff!!!!

    Update on my scans--bone scan is clear, CT scan is clear....yea!!!! I can not tell you have relieved I am.

    Hope everyone is having a great week...we just got snow today, I HATE snow.

    Teresa

  • carolynf
    carolynf Member Posts: 262
    edited December 2008

    Hello ladies,

    I met w/my onc Monday.  He went over my EKG/Echo and everything looked great.  We scheduled w/my surgeon to have my port out on Jan 16th.  He also wants me to have mammo's every 6 months.  I will see him every 3 months for 2-3yrs.  I can't remember which he said and then after that it goes to every 6 months and then 1x a yr.  He said to call if anything changes or I have any wierd pain. He does not do any scans unless there are issues.  I think I just want to move on.  As for the mammo, I found my own lump and the mammo just confirmed it.  My only question is how do you know your pains aren't related to something bad?  I am one to wait til pain is really bad before contacting Dr's.  I have a massage scheduled for tomorrow, and chiro and then to PT.  I think once the port comes out that some of these pains will go away or at least I hope they do!  Sorry to hear about your dad Brena. I need to get some sleep. Will write more later. Enjoy the rest of the week and hope we don't get the storm they're projecting...

    Take care,

    Carolyn

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited December 2008

    Hi. ok, I am reading your notes about the continued sinus ailments and that is a bummer.

    Tomorrow I have # 8 of 16 taxol and on avastin (supposedly) every three weeks. tomorrow is an avastin day. my nose lining is very sensitive and gets clots and sometimes bleeding. It is very consistent condition now - dont' know which it is from - the tax or the avastin. BUT I can handle it and not that bad --  hopefully worth it. Gosh, the things that dont gross us out any more. 

    I went to lymph massage today and it was wonderful. I am gaining range of motion and that is progress.  also, it was just very good to relax. we did some visualization and normally that would not be for me, but I gave in and it was very positive. Take care -  

  • sftfemme65
    sftfemme65 Member Posts: 790
    edited December 2008

    Keryl,

    Yea the sinus thing is by far the worse at least for me but if it keeps this stuff from coming back...it is so worth it.  Lymph massage? Where did you go for that?  Do you have lymphadema?

    Teresa

  • debk55
    debk55 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2008

    Hi All,

    And welcome back Brenna, sorry about your Dad.  I am off for my last AC tomorrow.  WOO HOO!!!

    I again am worried about working on the taxol. MY job is 10 hours a day on my feet at a Drs office and it is very fast paced. I dont think I can be slow thinking "Chemo Brain" at work. I will just have to see. And it sounds like it might last a while after???  SOme times you if we will ever be normal again. 

    Thanks for all who posted on working. I just hope they will let me work part time or I am able to handle it. TIme will tell. right now I will just get thru this last AC.  Good Luck to all getting tx this week and  SE week to all.  Deb:)

  • busqueen
    busqueen Member Posts: 176
    edited December 2008

    Hi everybody.  I have signed up to be a part of this trial as well.  I'm not triple negative but my oncotype score was 33, which makes me high risk and eligible for the trial.  I'm nervous about the extra drug, especially when I see the sinus issues some of you seem to be having, but it seems most everbody feels it's worth it if it can improve our chances down the line.  I'm starting chemo next Friday, the 19th.

    Happy Friday to everybody.  Have a good weekend, I hope you all rest well and breathe easy.:-)

  • brena
    brena Member Posts: 458
    edited December 2008

    busqueen,

    Welcome to the greatest bunch of ladies you could ever want to talk with!! I am sooo happy to hear you joined the trial to make a world of difference, takes much courage to take the step. Usually I am the person who write books on this thread, (&Carolyn) but I have been out of touch for a while and am trying to get back involved. If you don't mind would you tell us a little about yourself and your support system. We have woman at various stages of the trial so you are in great hands.

     again, welcome

  • Keryl
    Keryl Member Posts: 230
    edited December 2008

    Teresa, I dont have lymphadema but I am trying to do prevention as I feel vurnerable. I did get a sleeve too.  My node dissection seems to be slow healing as I still have  a great deal of sensitivity in arm, arm pit and left side. The therapy  needs to be done by a person certified in lymph massage and MLD (manual lymph drainage) so as not to harm the area and trigger something. It is a light massage, surface flat handed toward the heart to help the fluids move through the lymph system.  She did both arms and chest area and neck. I did a search online for therapists in the area that were certified and then made some phone calls. The John Muir hospital system in this area has a program on this also. Most breast centers have this or can make referrals. My surgeon did recommend this as an option so I thought I would try it.

  • busqueen
    busqueen Member Posts: 176
    edited December 2008

    Brena, thank you for the welcome.  Its nice to be in a place where people truly do understand what I'm going through.:-)

    I am 36 years old, and I have a 12 year old daughter {the Drama Queen} and a 13 year old son {the Video Game King}.  I got married about 1 month before my dx to a very sweet guy who obviously had no idea what he was signing up for. {poor guy, he had never been married before and I know he had quite the "newlywed dream" going on!lol}  I found my lump about a week before I was scheduled to have my first mammogram.  {due to family history}  Lump was IDC, with a few areas of DCIS in same breast.  Bi-lateral mastectomy on 11/12,  starting chemo next week, and reconstruction after chemo.  And now here I am.  Pretty much a total basket case.:-)  I am lucky and blessed to have great friends from my church and homeschool co-op group we belong to, so I try not to whine a lot because I know things could be a lot harder.

    So that is my {not so exciting} story.  I am happy to be part of this group and now I feel like I actually have a place to 'hang out' on this site.:-)  Hope everybody is enjoying their weekend the best they can. 

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