CANCER CURE FOUND BUT.... FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO

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Hi all

Find out about a new Cancer Cure Drug and also why we still can't have it as yet...

Here's the page

http://cancer-i.com/the-dca-cancer-cure/

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    How much do you think Medicare pays for the treatment of cancer?  How much does it cost the taxpayers for the same?  Do you have any ideaa about the billions the government pays for treatment or the cost to the economy in other ways, loss of productivity, etc.  Do you honestly, really think that there is a cancer cure out there that the government would not fund the research on if it thought there was a potential cure?  COME ON.  There is no great conspiracy to keep a cure for cancer from the public.  Some people though will believe anything.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    In fact, let me answer that.  For Treatment ALONE, in 2004, 72 Billion, and that does not include the loss to the economy because of loss of productivity, opportunity cost, or other varied costs. It would seem to me if the government thought there was a CURE out there, it would pay for the research regardless of what the Pharma companies wanted:

    http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:KhsUnIKBtQUJ:progressreport.cancer.gov/doc_detail.asp?pid=1&did=2007&chid=75&coid=726&mid+cost+cancer+care+united+states+economy&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

  • Hindsfeet
    Hindsfeet Member Posts: 2,456
    edited November 2008

    In my opinion it's about money!!!! Cancer is a huge money making business. Disease makes money for the medical establishment. If cancer was an easy cure then the Oncologist would be out of business. Breast surgeons would have to look elsewhere for work. There would be no need for oncologist radialogist.

    I loved the video. I'm listening.

  • cp418
    cp418 Member Posts: 7,079
    edited November 2008

    Maybe the Susan Komen Foundation can pursue this research?  Considering all the money raised and donated to that foundation maybe it should get involved.  If politics are blocking these drugs from development (money and big pharma) then IMO cancer patients and their families around the world need to demand this research be pursued.  At least do the research and PROVE whether the compound works or not and side effects and risk factors.  Cancer patients should at least have a say in how their donated money is being spent on what research IMO.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I kind of suspect that if any of these organizations truly thought any of these drugs had any kind of potential they would ensure they got the money to test them.  Remember, there have been quack cancer cures since the time there has been cancer.  Its just very difficult to believe that the government or major universities looking into cancer would ignore anything that had any potential at all.  On the other hand they can't be expected to chase every rabbit that shows up.  I doubt the major cancer universities are all that worried about keeping Breast Surgeons in business as Barry would suggest.  After all, the people at those universities and their loved ones are dying also.  Does anybody truly believe this "find" mentioned in the video has any true application to the cure of cancer?  COME ON.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    By the way, in places like Moffitt they have started a program to inventory tumors from all of their cancer patients and they are working on deciphering their genetic codes, etc.  Its my understaning that cancers are all individual diseases and that there is no one size that fits all, but that they are making great headway against many of these individual cancers.   It may well be that in a few years there will be legitimate cures to cancer at least to many types of cancer.  And since Breast Cancer is getting the majority of the funding, it may be the first to be cured.  Keep your hopes up.

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2008

    Yes Barry 

    I do agree with you, its all about the money and politics.

    Yes goverment spend huge sums of money but they are also politically motivated.. Who do you think that sponsors thier political campains and the taxpayers money? Not thiers.

    And if anybody think otherwise, please open up your eyes and really study and read. Things are happening around us.

    For one jobs will be lost, organisations set up to fund and find a cure for cancer will be forced to close down, manufactures of medical equiptment will lose money since equiptments are very expensive to produce. Drug companies will also have thier market share on the cancer business.

    Truthseeker my friend, my belief is that most cancers are caused by the environment we live in and also the food we take and also stress in our daily lives and not due to Genetics.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Truthseeker my friend, my belief is that most cancers are caused by the environment we live in and also the food we take and also stress in our daily lives and not due to Genetics.   

    Probably very true, but of course genetics plays a part in some people getting cancer, such as the Brac gene.  But when I talk about Moffitt analyzing the tumor down to the genetic level, I am talking about the makeup of the tumor itself.  Only if science finally understands what it is dealing with will it possibly be able to do something about it.  We can all hope. 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2008

    Truthseeker,

    Maybe after you read this book, you will be enlightened.

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited November 2008

    Wow. 

    Graceths and Barry, my husband has been saying the exact same thing for years about a cancer cure not being lucrative for the big business, especially after I was dx'd with breast cancer.  He has had several family members with cancer, so he knows first hand that cancer is a huge money-maker-- an industry, and I'm pretty much with him in that thinking.  Look at what a marketing opportunity breast cancer has become.  Look at all the pink crap that is being sold-- heck, Ford has even built a Mustang with a pink ribbon on it-- looks like they could fund the real cure.  If there was a cure for cancer, my insurance company wouldn't be out $200,000+ and the cancer center where I go could not have added the multi-million dollar addition, in which each and every room is decorated with its own color and theme...  makes me want to puke everytime I go in there, because we're still struggling to pay off what the insurance didn't cover.  Whew, I have to get off this subject...

    Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2008

    Hi all

    Yep... The cancer industry is full of corruption, power play and cover ups due to money.

    Look around, seek and you will find as jesus has always said.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Yep... The cancer industry is full of corruption, power play and cover ups due to money.

    And just how is this different from the Alternative Medicine industry?  And what's jesus have to do with any of this?

  • priz47
    priz47 Member Posts: 470
    edited November 2008

    I'm sorry, but if you truly believe ALL pharms, oncs, BS's are all part of this corruption, why do you bother with treatment??!!?? If its not genetics, why are so many testing positive for the BRAC gene?? I beleive both our environment and genetics have a factor. Cancer is not the only moneymaker, what abt allthe other chronic diseases, such as diabetes?

    D

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2008

    It is a wel known fact that Cancer cells are always present in the body and it's our body immune system that helps us fight cancer... But when the immune system is weak then the cancer cells previals..

    The fact that cancer is really big money more than other disease is really of concern.. how much do you have to pay to treat diabetes? How much is it to treat cancer? you will find that cancer is by far one of the most expensive treatments available.

    Well, for one Jesus has said that seek for the cure and you will find... You must look hard enought and also believe that there are alternative traements that has cured people...

    No doubt that there are a lot of alternative scams around but the are confined to small groups and not as widespread as politics.   

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    You must look hard enought and also believe that there are alternative traements that has cured people...

    Jesus said this?   Wow 

  • graceths
    graceths Member Posts: 35
    edited November 2008

    Well not actually but he said that if you look hard enough you will find the answers to what you are looking for and I believe the real cure for cancer actually likes within ourselves. Just as the chinese has always believe that we have the ability to cure ourselves if we took care of our body and feed it with the right nutrition.

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited November 2008

    Well well - "wish upon a star and your dreams will come true" - I gave that up years ago, along with waiting for my Knight in Shining Armor. Makes for a great Disney cartoon - but the reality is - wishing and believing will NOT cure cancer. That goes along with "blame the victim", imho. Tongue out

  • gscott
    gscott Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2008

    It's totally about money. I used to work at a doctors office and saw for myself how we are paying up the nose for meds, thanks to the BIG PHARMA.

    Did you know that it costs MILLIONS to get something FDA approved.

    Tell me who can afford that but the Mafia, who is by the way the ones who are behind the Pharmaceuticals. They want you as a life time paying customer. If you're cured, they are done.

    Its the same reason tires or car engines aren't made to last, the same reason cigarettes aren't illegal. MONEY!

    Cancer is a BILLION dollar industry.

    It's a no-brainer!

    Everyone needs to do what they need to do, but if it were me who got cancer, I'd try to fight it naturally with the bob beck sota instruments the raw diet, Essiac Tea.

  • ihatesnowihatesnow
    ihatesnowihatesnow Member Posts: 859
    edited November 2008
    i think if there was a cure we would know about it.. doctors get cancer too. and so do research people ....i know its a little off topic but look at this cell site        http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/scale/
  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    Like what grace said you must search for the cancer cure and you will find it.

    I have a friend who was diagnosed with stage 4 but did not go for Chemo.. instead went for a organic food programme ( with supervision of course) and was cured. The doctor couldn't believe it at first.

  • carol1949
    carol1949 Member Posts: 562
    edited November 2008

    This is not a fun thing to go through to say the least.  I do beleive that this site is all about sharing our concerns and information to try to help one another.

    I personally do believe that money is most certainly some of the hold up for a cure.

    We do have corruption in our government... just look at the corporate bail outs we are facing!  People get paid off!

    As for alternative shysters... certainly there are some.  But, NOT all.  We have to trust our own senses and use our knowledge to allow ourselves to make the decision that we are comfortable with.  It isn't all that difficult to list our own symptoms and see what natural causes or helps we find.

    Yes, it is about getting back to the basics of whole foods and living and eating healthier.  The unfortunate part is once cancer gets a foot hold.. it can move too quickly for our bodies to reverse it destruction.  I personally believe in both complimentary and traditional therapies in MY OWN case.  That doesn't mean that someone with less cancer in their body can't beat it with alternative treatment.

    I did chemo along with complimentary therapies (with approval of my oncologist who happens to be a personal friend).  I had surgery and now am cancer free and plan to stay that way using holistic methods and diet along with mind/spirit connection. It is all interconnected to remain ""dis" ease free and build a healthy immune system.  It can happen with alternative supplements.

    Good Luck to all.  Each to his own taste said the old man as he kissed the cow!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Does anybody know where the biggest profits are?  In actually finding a drug that cures cancer.  I have followed and invested in a few pharmaceutical companies trying to develope drugs that will battle particular forms of cancer.  I have seen their stock prices  go up and then fall as much as 75% in one day when the company discontinues a particular phase or comes out with bad news or safety issues or whatever.  Believe me there are drug companies battling it out among themselves who will be the first to patent a drug to cure a cancer.  Hercepton, Avistan, etc. makes the companies huge amounts of money, to which they are entitled due to their huge investments to begin with.  But these drugs don't cure, although hercepton might help delay a recurrence. 

    Compare the investments of the large pharmaceuticals into drugs to the alternative medicine industry. It costs probably 5 cents to make the Hoxsey cure (whatever that is), but think of the profits if they can con the American Public into buying it?  Almost unlimited margins to be earned on their investments.  Some of you talk about the large drug companies as if they are the enemy.  In fact, they are the ones that are going to help save our lives.  If there is a cure out there, they are the ones who are going to find it . . not some uneducated dolt living on a farm who brews his own hoxsey cancer cure.  I guess i just don't understand why so many don't see this.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2008

    Right on, Blaest!

    The amount of chicanery and fraud that is allowed to go on (because of less-than-stringent marketing regulations) in the alternative medicine industry is appalling. 

    People really need to be educated about medical research.  While it's true that the aim of pharmaceutical companies is to make money, that only underlines their goal to make drugs which effectively treat, eliminate or prevent disease.  That is the only way they CAN make money!

    University and hospital-based basic scientists, working in collaboration with clinical researchers and the drug and bio-medical tech companies, are what are keeping most of us on this board alive and still kicking.  One of the top breast cancer scientists in the world (Dr. Tak Mak, the discoverer of the T-cell's role in the immune system) is a great example - he has dedicated his life to breast cancer research, having watched his wife pass away from the disease several years ago.

    Linda

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    I'd try to fight it naturally with the bob beck sota instruments the raw diet, Essiac Tea

    I got to admit, I got a huge kick out of reading about the "beck" cancer cure.  For anybody who wants a good laugh, here it is:

    http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer02/BobBeck.html

  • lauren_wyp
    lauren_wyp Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2008

    On findind cures, I think we should go into the subject futher.

    What if there is a cure but the cure cannot be patented, will the pharmaceutical co's fund this research? They w'ont because there is NO MONEY to be made even though its good for the society. 

    Please see the video on the initial post and you will find out.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2008

    Lauren;

    As I noted before, the general public needs much more education about medical research.  I worked in the field (raising funds for research at the largest hospital in Canada), so I do have some valid reasons for stating what I did.  There are more than 200 different types of cancer and, as we've seen on these threads, there are several different types of breast cancer.  Believe me when I tell you that medical researchers WORLDWIDE are working diligently - and working together - on finding the causes of these diseases.  Every piece of information is acted upon, and it's a huge puzzle they are trying their hardest to put together.

    They are working WITH the pharma companies; it is not just the pharma companies who are involved in cancer research.  If you look at the list of Nobel prize winners over the past several years, you will see how individual scientists and their teams have provided so much of the info needed in this ongoing research.

    Please do not promote the belief that pharma companies will keep these researchers from bringing more effective treatments and possibly prevention of cancer from the public.  That's just not happening, nor will it. 

    You mentioned a friend who went the holistic route and her cancer was eradicated.  That's wonderful and, yes, it can happen.  I had a friend diagnosed with IBC who went through the standard treatment.  It was too far advanced and too rampant.  She went to Sweden to try an experimental therapy.  It didn't work.  She tried another therapy in Mexico.  It didn't work either, and sadly, her funeral was 2 months ago.  Luckily for her family, they had ample funds available to try these therapies.  But for many who are at Stage IV, there are people who take advantage of their desperation and make "cure" promises that can never be kept.

    Respectfully,

    Linda 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2008

    Here is the problem with the drug company and gov't conspiracy theories.  Why would those making money from the cancer industry sit by and let their best customers keep dying?  It would make more sense to have patients pay $$$$ to be cured or at least maintained for many years.  It is not as if cancer would become extinct or occur at a lower rate.  On the contrary, people would probably endure more risky behaviors if they knew they could cure themselves with a pill.  There would be an endless number of profit producing people at the drug machine's mercy!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2008

    Lots of reasons why the alternative cure folks make no sense.  For example, they claim there is a huge conspiracy to keep people from being cured.  But the fact is if company A thought it could cure cancer and make a huge profit, it could care less about putting all of the Breast Surgeons out of business.  Company A in our society is interested only in Company A.  It is capitalism at its best motivated by the hope for great proftis that causes drug companies to invest in cures for cancer.  And if they get there, the shareholders will be wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.  These companies are working towards a profit and they are working to cure cancer to get there.  Are these companies conspiring to keep a cancer cure from the masses because they want to keep all of those breast surgeons in business?  or are they conspiring to cure cancer so they can be the next Bill Gates?  I think the answer to that question is pretty obvious.  And of course those toiling away in the labs of America searching for a cure for cancer probably are often doing so not only because they found the work challenging, but rewarding also.  Imagine being on a team that finally discovers a cure to breast cancer.  Think of the accollades and the feelings of accomplishment and self worth for doing so.  The alternative cure folks can claim its all about money, and maybe it is, but they are looking at things bass ackwards.

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited November 2008
    After reading the book "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand way back when in my 20's, I stopped believing in conspiracy theories against free enterprise and capitalism. Yes pharmaceutical companies are for-profit - but how else will we pay the PhD and MD researchers? Millions and millions of dollars are lost due to research (I know - I worked for a cancer-research department in a large pharmaceutical company many years ago) - oh and btw - NONE of these people worked for the Mafia!  Some of the posts on this thread are obviously written by unscrupulus people pushing "natural cures" for THEIR own profit......... to do so on this forum is unethical, imho.Yell
  • priz47
    priz47 Member Posts: 470
    edited November 2008

    I guess my mom should have tried the Bob Beck Cure for her stage 4 ovarian cancer. maybe I would not have went to her funeral 3 weeks ago.

    I will continue to use my chemo and healthy diet AND support research for a cure. If Pharmaceuticals are so evil, would insurance pay them????

    D

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