SEs from Herceptin???
Hi all - am starting Herceptin next week after a MUGA scan on Monday. Any side effects from Herceptin I should be prepared for?? I'm a little nervous about the heart function issues. Will I know if I'm having problems?
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I get weekly infusions as mine is adjuvant. I have not had many side effects, I feel fine the day of treatment. I am somewhat fatigued, and my WBC and RBC have not climbed to normal levels after chemo (It's been almost 5 months since my final chemo).
I get another MUGA tomorrow, the prior ones have been within points of each other and I don't expect this one to be any different.
Hope your treatment is uneventful.
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Jeanne: I started Herceptin with chemo in April and now get it every 3 weeks on its own. So far, absolutely no side effects. My MUGA was 74% before chemo and 72% most recently. My onc tests every 3 months, but, like AZSunn, I don't expect any problems.
Best wishes to you!
Sue
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I get herceptin every three weeks. I am a bit tired by the end of the day. By day 3, I have a drippy nose. Otherwise, I have no noticeable side effects. Good luck
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Hey Jeanne,
I also get Herceptin every three weeks, and have been getting it this time around for almost 3 yrs. I get my echo's of my heart every 3 months,, and so far no problems with the heart.. Not too many s/e's with herceptin, except the darn runny nose, and it seems like some sinus problems for me...Good luck and don't worry, they will monitor you ...Hugs Klynn
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I completed my year of Herceptin almost two years ago. I actually enjoyed my infusions. The pre-meds put me to sleep, so I headed home revived from my nap. I had the drippy nose but no other side effects. My Mugas fell a bit during the year, which was worrisome at the time, but I never had to take a break and I seem to have rebounded. Good luck!
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Jeanne, did I miss something? Aren't you HER2 negative? I didn't know Herceptin could be used for HER2 negative? Thanks for any information you have. Maryiz
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The onc should explain what side effects to look for, the most important, swelling of ankles and fingers, edema, shortness of breath, fatique, like if you climb stairs your used to and all of sudden your not climbing them the same or you find you have to stop to catch your breath, Then let the Cancer centre know right away. Your going to be fine, it's much better than chemo. Hugs.
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Jeanne, the MUGAs are important. I had five Herceptin treatments from 7/10 - 10/1. The first four were part of my TCH chemo cocktail, the Herceptin only was in early October. My onc was shocked (her words) when my three month follow up MUGA on October 6th showed a decrease in heart function from 63 to 48 and I was taken off Herceptin for six weeks.
I started back on Herceptin last week after follow up scan on 11/3 showed improved function to 60. I will continue with treatments every three weeks through next July and will be monitored with MUGAs every three months. I have had the drippy nose and a little bit of nausea ... but nothing compared to chemo SEs.
I am 43 y/o, exercise regularly, and, other than BC, am very healthy, so getting the scans is quite important to avoid heart problems that could sneak up on us.
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moonchild is so right, I forgot to mention the MUGA's they are so very important. Good luck.
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Darn and make sure you get a baseline MUGA done before you start Herceptin so important! Sorry everyone, I'm passing a Kidnye Stone and am stopping and starting as I type so again sorry for the weird snippets of posts.
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Also, it was recommended by my chemo nurse that I began taking COQ10 supplements after I finished chemo. My last MUGA improved.
You might ask your Dr. if you could benefit, or if he is against you taking it, it is supposed to help protect the heart.
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The most bothersome side effect for me was the drippy nose. It was kind of like I was getting a cold.....then gone. My sinuses have been bothering me too, but other than that I haven't had any side effects.
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Hi I started herceptin sept 24th with my last chemo and just started rads on nov 3rd. I seem to get a little swollen on hand and feet at night. Also don't know if it's the weather or what but my skin has been very itchy!! I feel a little sick to my stomach and a little fatigue. I'm still getting treatments every week. Has anyone felt a difference between having your treatments once a week to having it every three weeks? That might be changing the beggining of December and I feel very worried.
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Hey Karen, maybe it's the rads making your skin itchy? It could also be the reason for your fatigue. I was very tired during rads, the fatigue would hit me like a brick wall in the middle of the afternoon. It can also give you low-level nausea too. Make sure you're drinking enough fluids and getting enough rest. How many rads do you have to go?
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Snowy did you get that painful stone passed? I pray for you everyday. Hope you are feeling better.
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Hi Lisa, That's exactly how i feel. It's kinda like chemo except instead of feeling nausea I feel soooo so fatigue. I have until Dec 14th a total of 6 weeks. How did you feel after you were done? Did the fatigue go away soon after or did it take awhile? I have been having hot flashes like crazy at night and I can't sleep it's driving me crazy. Did that happen to you? I just feel so out of it. I feel off balance and I don't know what medicine to blame it on. Maybe it's just me with my anxiety and panic attacks I really need to get some meds for that. I asked for meds before but could not because of my liver it was elevated but it's getting back to normal. Lots of Love! Karen
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Be sure to pop a couple of Tylenol and a Benadryl before each infusion.
I have a bit of leg swelling still ... some joint pain ... and a cranky digestive system. Is it Herceptin or long-term SEs from chemo? ... I dunno.
MUGAs have bounced around from 76 to 72 to 64 to 79. I have maybe 5 infusions left, not sure.
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Karen, sorry haven't been on the boards for a few days - finally back at work. Re: fatigue - it got better within about 1-2 weeks of rads ending. And about those pesky hot flashes - yes, girl I sure did get them. It was horrible. Night and day. I got a prescription for Effexor from my onc. It's an anti-depressant that for some reason dimishes hot flashes - they will give you a very low dose - too low to alter your mood, but it's enough to reduce the hf's. I went from about 15 a day to 3 or 4. Suddenly, they ended altogether and I got my period back. It was gone for 5 mos. total. I'm 39. Your photo looks like you're younger too - so your period will probably come back. Meantime, get some Effexor - it helps a lot.
xo... Lisa
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How many of you get Herceptin every other week? Since I get chemo every other week, and my oncologist's office is an hour and a half away, he figured I could get the Herceptin every other week instead of every three weeks. Does that increase chances for problems? Anyone know?
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Hi Spa'r: No stone passed but the pain is subsiding I don't get it. May the cranberry pill and cipro did something. Still have abdominal pain and am very tired and really sick of feeling this way. But I finally found a really good family Dr. I'm thrilled with her. Many people in London can't get a family doctor if they're already sick (it's true). So when I went in the first thing I said was 'I have cancer and a bad back, and I want to know if you take sick patients before I bother telling you anything else'. She laughed and said ' I am here to be a Doctor I take sick patients'. So I explained whats been on the news with new Drs. refusing to take people with chronic conditions and she acknowledged that she's heard herself and seen it on the news and not to worry. So I finally have a family Dr. she's having my abdomin checked as I told her I feel five months pregnant. ( you have to have sex to get pregnant) so she's starting all the other tests for me, I lfeel so lucky. Thank spar for keeping in touch, I really appreciated it. Well I can hardly keep my eyes open so I"m signing off. Tomorrow I will really try catch up with everyone. Big Hugs!
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two weeks ago I had my ninth (Halfway!!!!) Herceptin and I had bad abdominal pain afterwards-for about four days. I looked it up and it is a possible side effect, but i had never experienced it. Well, I did have abdominal pain but i always assumed it was from the chemo. then I had two Herceptins with the runny nose only. But then the third one, number nine was very uncomfortable afterwards. Number ten is next week. I almost don't mind the pain since it is good for losing a couple of pounds. Just wondering if anyone else has has this experience.
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Anyone get the funky mouth from Herceptin? My tongue is sore and I feel like I need to brush my teeth all the time. Also food is tasty funny. Some things more dull and some things more spicy. Did herceptin before but can't remember this SE.
Also man did I have the chills after my first dosage. Boy it was scary!
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Hello everyone,
Today I went to get my echo and the cardiologist said " Well it's not the strongest heart i have seen but it looks normal. So I was happy about that so now I just got to wait to see what the onc decides to do about the Herceptin. It's been 22 days since my last Herceptin and I actually feel better as far as my mental state. I also feel a little more energy I don't know if it is cause I finished my chemo or what I feel very scared about getting back on Herceptin or any other kind of medicine. Has anyone had to stop Herceptin and start another med after only two months???? Also Herceptin did give my mouth a ugly taste and also had the shakes and chills.
Lots Of Love, Karen
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Yes, I get that odd sore tounge thing as well. Sometimes more so than others. I didn't think to associate it with the Herceptin, but your entry made me realize it is correlated! I have been getting Herceptin for almost a year, and will continue for the duration as I am stage IV. By the way I was originally DCIS, and it came bach as metastatic disease 9 years later. I am grateful we now have Herceptin!
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I had pre surgery Taxol/Herceptin thru October. Lump and SNB Dec 7 and 17. Dec 18 I had the load dose of Herceptin to begin every 3 weeks tx. Now the neuropathy (numbness) in ring and little finger tips is constant. I noticed the runny nose last night, even though I have nose hairs once again.
Was anyone told that you can get a lower dose of Herceptin every week, instead of the usual every 3 weeks? If I sit for a long time, it is like being 102 years old and very stiff but not really hurting - more achy. I do take extra strength Tylenol at bedtime just to ease those aches & to find a comfortable position to sleep in. So far my stomach has been fine, but I have a friend who has not been so lucky.
My onco has agreed to saline drip with the Herceptin for assure enough hydration. I even keep a water bottle in the bathroom and "refill" my body when I "go"... Flushing this drug and others thru the body is important. Coffee and tea do not count as liquids and are actually DE hydrating.
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leftyAKAnancy, I used to take Herceptin. Due to the weakening of my heart muscle i had to stop. I chose to take Herceptin once a week just to take the lower dose. I figured if I took a lower dose it would have less effect on my heart but I stand corrected! I go Monday to see what they want to do. If they want to put me back on it or not. You might want to ask your onc about the once a week. If that makes you feel comfortable. Good Luck! Karen
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Thanks Karen. My Muga scans stayed the same pre chemo, after DD A/C, and after the taxol and herceptin every week for 12 weeks. The neuropathy is more bothersome than anything else. It stopped between my last chemo and the load dose of Herceptin to begin the 3 week schedule. I already had some after several wrist surgeries and it is mostly in the end joints of my ring and little fingers of my left (dominant) hand. I heard that a break from Herceptin is done until the heart goes back to normal and it can be continued again. In other words, the "damage" is not permanent.
I will be discussing radiation soon and wonder if anyone has found rads before Herceptin or after - on the days I get Herceptin. I can schedule any time of the day, as I am retired, but I prefer Herceptin early in the day, when it is not so busy and a long wait to get started and a much longer drive to and from and finding parking. Get it over with...
BTW, by the way, I went to the U of Az, Tucson, for a year before my family moved back to Pittsburgh.
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When I was on herceptin, I started with weekly doses and later switched to once every three week doses. I assumed that I would be receiving more herceptin with the three week dose vs the weekly dose.
I was surprised to find out that although more herceptin was infused during the once every three week dose vs the dose for the weekly dose, I was actually receiving less herceptin once every three weeks than the total amount from three of the weekly doses (it has to do with the half life of the drug and how much is needed to keep the circulating herceptin levels at an effective level until the next dose).
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I can't sleep girls! I hate the fact that i let this anxiety get the best of me! I don't know why i'm so afraid, i mean i know why but it's just an appt to see what they are gonna do with the Herceptin. It's either gonna be yey or ney. I know the best thing for me is to get back on Herceptin but i finally feel a little in control of my mental status. I don't know if anyone feels like this but I'm not sure if Herceptin was responsible for making me feel like i was losing my mind or if it was the radiation. I still feel anxiety but not like before when i was on Herceptin and rads. All i can do is pray myself to sleep that seems to be the only medicine that helps. Karen
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Hey Karen:
You are going to be alright. I promise. You must realize the Herceptin is the key to really having nothing to worry about. Your heart Will recover. The benefits are huge to continuing on Herceptin. Heaven forbid you would have to do this again. If you can continue with Herceptin I am sure that your Doctor told you you will have a one in 9 chance of recurrence. That figure is the same as getting it in the first place.
I am going for my first TX tomorrow and I am scared too. But we are going to make it all the way to the other side. Remember to use visualization and relaxation too. I agree that prayer is still the best medicine.
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