Brain lesion after Complete Pathological Response

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Negative3Grade3
Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111

Dear Sisters, 

I hope that some of you remember how elated I was last February when after navigating the maze of adjuvant versus neo-adjuvant treatment for triple negative, I was rewarded with complete pathological response (no tumor found on the original site, nor in the lymph nodes at surgery after chemo).  I finished my radiation in April 28th and everything was going well except for some intracranial pressure I was feeling when I started teaching again during summer.  In late August, I suffered an epileptic seizure and initially they thought it was encephalitis or west nile virus but the findings were inconclusive.  The MRIs, though, done at the local hospital, picked up a lesion and a lot of edema. Although I have been told both by the local and teaching hospital neurosurgeons that the signature seen is in the MRIs is not for brain metastasis but rather for low-grade glioma, they cannot rule it out unless I have a craniotomy and tissue has been examined. Some medical oncologists that I have talked to believe that what happened could be the result of something else going on (autoimmune related inflammation, vasculitis) but they also concur that only the biopsy and the subsequent pathology will tell us for sure.  So I'm scheduled for craniotomy (just when I had gotten all my curly hair backSmile) on October 14...Has anybody heard anything like this?  I was told that it is highly atypical for up to then healthy individual (I'm 47) to develop two different primaries within a year.  Don't I feel special!  At least I had a functional MRI and the lesion is no where close to speech (it's on the right side) and sensorimotor centers but I'm apprehensive to scared with the prospect, as you can imagine, and although I try to be cheerful for my 11-yer-old, it is very hard...

--Christina 

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  • azsunn
    azsunn Member Posts: 201
    edited September 2008

    I hope for the best possible findings for you Christina.  I will keep you in my thoughts as your surgery approaches.

  • wishiwere
    wishiwere Member Posts: 3,793
    edited September 2008

    {{Christina}} Prayers and good thougths follow you till the oct 14th, then through you recovery also.  So hard knowing where and when this stuff takes us, it's all so scary. I can't imagine what you are going through and the waiting has to be especially hard.  Gentle {{hugs}} to help while you wait.

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited September 2008

    Dear Christina,

    I also hope that this is nothing too serious. I've actually read low-grade gliomas referred to as "benign," but since I'm not a medical doctor, I can't be sure of my information. I do know they can be cured by surgery if they don't involve a vital area of the brain. Even if they do, radiation can be very effective.

    This will soon be simply another of the nightmares that we go through, and then survive.

    Love,

    Annie

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited September 2008

    Oh for goodness sake, Christina, when in the heck is enough, enough with this dang disease?

    I am sorry you have something else to worry about.

    Hang in there, sister, Shirlann

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    I have heard of people having more than one cancer but....not in the same year. Let's not let you be in this special group either.  We are lifting you up in prayer that this is not cancer, but some B9 thing that can be taken care of easily.  Does these scares never end....

    Flalady

    Please keep us up to date with your surgery.  What a year you had...

  • SoapMaker
    SoapMaker Member Posts: 157
    edited September 2008

    Sending prayers your way, sweetie.

    Merciful Father, please watch over our Christina. Send a band of angels to surround her and protect her. Let her surgery go well and let the outcome result in a benign condition, without further complications. Amen.

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  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited September 2008

    Dear Sisters,

     Thank you so much for all your wishes, thoughts, and prayers.  I'll keep you updated as I can.

    --Christina 

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited September 2008

    Christina I'm so sorry to hear about this - I do remember reading how happy your were when your radiation ended in April, so this is such a shock!  As with any surgery, if you haven't already done so, be sure to check out your surgeon's credentials and the hospital's infection rates..........it's so scary a time, especially with surgery of the brain, that it's normal to become frozen in time and space until the dreaded deed is over..............but you still have time to research and maintain some control over what is happening to you, at least in regard to who does your surgery and where. I'll be praying for you - your surgery is on my birthday so I won't forget you dear Christina!

  • HeatherBLocklear
    HeatherBLocklear Member Posts: 1,370
    edited October 2008

    Dear Christina,

    Is there any news on this? We're all waiting to hear.

    Love,

    Annie

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited October 2008

    Thank you all for your thoughts and wishes.  I've been busy trying to prepare for the upcoming surgery (Oct. 14th), if all the pre-ops go fine, and then we'll take it from there.  I feel ver comfortable about where I will do the surgery and relatively comfortable with the surgeon but even the Teaching Hospital where I'm having it is 2 1/2 hours away from home that complicates matters when you have an 11-year-old and no family around, but we will manage.  I just hope that we can find out what caused the seizure in the first place. Of course, I'm hoping that the medical oncologist is right ("I'm not convinced that it is a tumor", she said), but if the neurosurgoen is right and it is a new primaryI hope that it is a low grade one that doesn't require any further treatment unless it comes back because of the controversy surrounding the treatment of brain tumors.  I definitely hope that it is not a metastasis from the triple negative I had (all pre-op CT scans were clear) because that would be the worst news of all...Keep me in your thoughts and prayers.  I'll let you know as soon as I can what I found out at surgery (if it is a tumor or not).  Of course, the full pathology report at the end of October will tell us, hopefully, the whole story.

    Warmly,

    Christina 

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2008

    Well, I did get the biopsy results after I had the craniotomy and it wasn't metastatic but astrocytoma (slow-growing tumor), GRADE II.  So now I have two fronts: the triple negative BC and the brain tumor.  Let's see which one will take me first...Because of the low grade, they have recommended monitoring for the time being with MRIs every two months and then we'll take it from there.  And I was looking forward to having years go by for the triple negative to reduce the chances of having it come back...Unlike the triple negative, my chances of having the low grade turn to high grade increase every year...I can't win, it seems.  Christina

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited November 2008

    Dear Christina,
     
    First I am sorry I didn't respond to your October 7 post, to give you some support. Now I read today's words, and am appalled at how unfair recent events have been.
     
    I hope I can post supporting words about low grade astrocytoma's when it's more appropriate, but now it's clear that you need comfort and good wishes while you continue your recovery.
     
    I will keep you in my thoughts, Christina.
     
    Tender 
  • KPolasek
    KPolasek Member Posts: 184
    edited November 2008

    Christina,

    I am so, so sorry that you are having to face this.  There are no words that can take away your pain and fear .... and I am sure anger.  I will say that I am praying for you and your sweet, sweet daughter.

    Kay

  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited November 2008

    Christina, I do remember you from your complete pathological response glee. I am sorry I missed this post earlier.

    Thank God it wasn't metastatic. A slow-growing tumor with monitoring is FAR better than that. At the same time it does suck that you have any brain lesion to be concerned with at all.Frown You just can't win can you? I am so sorry.

    You just have to go with the MRI's that have been recommended for you, I guess and be grateful that it is not near your speech and sensory motor centers. Did they take it out? I mean besides a tissue sample for biopsy? Are you feeling well? Sorry, I do not know much about brain surgery.

    You'll be in my prayers..

    Lisa

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited November 2008

    I'm lost for words...when is enough? Enough? I'm so sorry you have more to worry about than you or anyone should have on their plate. Lefting you up in prayer that you will be able to fight both of these beast. Please keep us up to date. It's your turn for some good news.

    Flalady

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2008

    Dear Sisters, 

    I can't thank you enough for your support and uplifting messages.  I know I could or should be angry but I'm not because of what I've read in our boards and the courage that I saw in some of you who had to fight BC and metastatic scenarios.  I'm just a very "lucky" gal with two different kinds of beasts.  Let's see what the future will hold for me.  With much appreciation, Christina.

    P.S. Yes, there was a resection (open craniotomy), not just a biopsy but unlike BC, you can't have a full resection in brain tumors and that's why they are considered incurable with a high probability of regrowth depending on several factors including the size of resection, age, grade, etc. 

  • swimangel72
    swimangel72 Member Posts: 1,989
    edited November 2008

    Oh Christina I'm so sorry to hear this news - but thankful that your craniotomy is over and your speech centers are OK. I'll continue praying for you. Will you need radiation now for the astrocytoma? Or chemo? I can't believe they recommend just monitoring with MRI's...........have you thought about getting a second opinion for the treatment of the brain tumor?

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2008

    Well, the problem is that you have only a few "bullets" if the low grade turns high grade and based on the most current research and clinical trials, they want to save them when you need them the most that's why the top brain centers recommend serial MRIs (every 2-3 months).  Unfortunately, although radiation seemed to postpone regrowth by the five-year mark (there was a clinical trial in Europe), the overall survival didn't change and the use of chemo is very controversial (no data yet showing any benefit).  In addition, there were some negative side effects with cognitive impairement due to radiation. Since I have had BC, though, I'm not eligible for any trial that may open up at NCI (you've got to be cancer free for five years), so I've got to live for four more years to be eligible for those:-).  I never knew that most of the research is geared towards high grade gliomas and that there is very little on low grade but maybe this is is good sign, who knows:-).  The MRI in December will be very crucial.  Let's hope that there is no change.  And I thought having mammos every six months for BC was going to be a little nerve-racking...  Again, I thank you all for your concern and your well wishes.

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited November 2008

    Well you certainly seem well informed on the current status of low grade astrocytoma. I've been thinking of you, sending good wishes for quick healing of your incision, and of course will continue to wish for no change on December's MRI, and subsequent mammograms.
     
    Please do know that at Duke University, there are world re-known brain tumor specialists, who treated many a long living patient. Ted Kennedy himself just went there. I offer this not to dismiss the apparent excellent care you currently are receiving at your major university hospital, but rather in case of need of a second opinion, a situation I hope never arises.
     
    Wishing the best for you and your child,
    Tender 
  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2008

    Dear Tender and all of you who were concerned about me,

     I just wanted to let you know that I got a second opinion yesterday from Duke and today from MD Anderson that concurred with the recommendation I got from JH (to just be monitored with MRIs every two months for the first six months--decrease the frequency after that, unless there are signs of regrowth or I start to have problems). Everybody said that the longer I can hold off to be treated the better off I will be because I will give a chance to technology to advance.  I hope I can be stable for a long time but it remains to be seen...  Thank you again for pushing me to get a second opinion.  I felt much more secure having done a triangulation of opinions.  --Christina

  • TenderIsOurMight
    TenderIsOurMight Member Posts: 4,493
    edited November 2008

    Oh, that's great to have concurrence in management suggestions, and from three excellent institutions.
     
    It's true about the passage of time in medicine as an entity working on behalf of the patient. Such great strides have been taken in the last decade(s); of course we need funding for them to continue.
     
    Now perhaps you can go and enjoy some of the lovely Fall. More relaxed to know a well laid out plan, and confident that much more expert help will come your way if ever needed.
     
    Thanks for getting back and good wishes to you,
    Tender 
  • becky1970
    becky1970 Member Posts: 17
    edited November 2008

    Christina,

    I just wanted to let you know that in 2004 I had my first seizure ever.  About 3 months later I was diagnosed with "brain cancer"  Usually if you have a lesion in the brain they will refer it as cancerous until it is taken out or a biopsy is done.  We have a little difference, mine was in the left temporal lobe.  I had the surgery with radiation and chemo.   After the surgery I had severe memory loss and my speech was horrible.  I just want you to know 4 years later I am now going for MRI's every year instead of every few months.  I have not had a seizure in 4 years, I have no signs of any regrowth and I also had a grade II astrocytoma.  I am now going for a biopsy for solid nodules in the left breast, but otherwise I have been  healthy and able to live life to the fullest everyday. 

    I am thinking about you during this time and wishing the best for you.   

  • Negative3Grade3
    Negative3Grade3 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2008

    Dear Becky,

     Thank you so much for sharing your story which is so inspiring. Of course, in your case, the lack of regrowth could be attributed to the post-surgery treatment you had and/or to some of the other factors that are good prognostic markers (e.g. just a seizure episode rather than major neurological problems prior to diagnosis, age, size of tumore prior to surgery and after, etc. Still, I'm so happy for you.  I hope that the nodules in your left breast are just benign calcifications and that you continue to live your life to your fullest.  I intend on doing that until the circumstances change:-)

    --Christina 

  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited November 2008

    Dearest Christina,

    I felt just sick reading this thread today - I haven't been on in so long now.  I am sending my love and hugs and prayers to you and for you...today and each day.

    -Holly

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