second time with new breast cancer

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michelle112
michelle112 Member Posts: 12
hi all,i'm 39 years old, and going through breast cancer second time. not a recurrence but a new cancer.my dr is suggesting tc chemo. since its my second time having chemo i'm worried about my hair not growing back, and going into menopause. are the usual side effect will be worse since my body went through chemo already? anyone had this experience??michelle 

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  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited October 2008

    Hi, Michelle. I posted to you over you your hair thread, but wanted to answer you here, too. I'm sorry to hear you're dealing with a new primary. When was your first primary? Were you on AC chemo the first time around?

    I don't know how having chemo a second time will affect your hair regrowth and periods. You might want to check out the "Second or Third Breast Cancer" section of the boards and ask over there. I know that sometimes hair loss is permanent in situations where a person is on chemo continuously for years (in a metastatic setting), but I think you'd probably not be getting enough chemo for that to be the case. What has your onc said about it? 

  • michelle112
    michelle112 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2008

    hey nash, my first chemo was ACT about six years ago. was diagnosed three weeks ago with a new primary on the other breast. i'm devastated!! did you finish chemo? how did it go?  

  • Ivylane
    Ivylane Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2008

    Nash:  So sorry you have to deal with this  again. I think in large part, whether or not you get thrown into menopause is dependent upon what treatment protocol they put you on.  I had CMF my first time out at 37 and didn't lose my hair.  My periods came back for a short while after I finished 2-1/2 years of Tamoxifen, then stopped altogether.  When Iwas dx'd with the new primary on the other breast it was 15 years later.  I DID lose all my hair this time around, but am happy to report that it's all grown back, thicker and shinier than ever....best of luck...there IS life after this.

  • Ivylane
    Ivylane Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2008

    oops. my post was supposed to be directed to Michelle....sorry... also, my treatment this time was bi-lateral mast, 4 mos ACT, 1 year of Herceptin and now on Arimidex.  Did just fine!

  • michelle112
    michelle112 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2008
    oh blue, thank you for sharing your story! i was 32 when they found my first cancer, got on ACT and was bald!  now 39 with a second new primary had a bi-LM, and my onco is giving me a choice between TC 4 times or CMF 8 times. did you lose any hair with cmf? because my onco is saying that i can lose about half of my hair. how hard was CMF? 
  • Ivylane
    Ivylane Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2008

    Michelle: My hair thinned considerably (just on the sides) with cmf.  CMF was tough for me but keep in mind that I had it 17 years ago now.  Back then the anti-nausea meds were pretty much non-existent.  I do remember being fatigued though. With regard to the hair issue....at first I was devastated by the thought of losing my hair.  That quickly canged to thining about losing my life, so it became a non-issue for me.  Wigs have come a long way since my first time out with this nasty disease.  Many people had no idea I was wearing one.  Good luck with whatever you choose to do.  Listen to you onc and go with your gut.  Let me know what you decide to do.

    Take care....you WILL get through this! 

  • michelle112
    michelle112 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2008

    hi blue, no doubt i'm first fighting for my life!!! but of course i would rather doing it with out loosing my hair. with out beeind said im getting my treatment with hair or with out!! did you have to wear a wig with CMF or only with the ACT? how far are you with your treatment? sorry you have to go through this!! we should all remember - THERE IS A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!!   

  • Ivylane
    Ivylane Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2008

    Hi Michelle:  I wore a wig only with ACT.  I am just past my two year anniversary and feeling great! I need a little fine tuning on the implant positioning for one side, I have capsular contracture, so I will have to see what the PS wants to do about it.  HE may be able to release the capsule.

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited October 2008

    Hi, Michelle--you asked if I finished chemo--yes, I finished last December. It went fine, considering everything. I was probably in the middle of the road as far as side effects go. I think you'll be fine on the TC, since you've already gotten through ACT. You should have a lot less nausea without the Adriamycin in the mix. A lot of oncs consider CMF sort of chemo "light", so you'd have to make sure your onc was OK with that.

    Something to consider with the TC is neuropathy. Did you have any trouble with that on ACT? I'd ask the onc what the effect of having a taxane the second time around will have on neuropathy symptoms. I'd actually be more concerned with that than the hair loss, since neuropathy can be permanent and debilitating, whereas the hair will come back. 

  • michelle112
    michelle112 Member Posts: 12
    edited October 2008

    hi dash, i'm happy to hear that you're done!! i think TC and CMF are both lighter compare to ACT. my onco said that i'll benefit from both the same in-term of recurrences. i'm going for second and third opinions, so by then i'll know whats the right treatment for me. i didnt have neuropathy symptoms on ACT. i'll definitely ask about it! was that one of your side affects?

  • nash
    nash Member Posts: 2,600
    edited October 2008

    Hi, Michelle. I didn't have a taxane--I had AC with 5-fu, so I didn't develop neuropathy. My late Stage IV mom, who was on every chemo there was at one point or another, including taxol, taxotere and abraxane, developed very severe neuropathy. But she had a LOT of chemo. I do, however, know some girls who developed pretty bad neuropathy just on TACx6. But that's good that you didn't develop it, and maybe you wouldn't on the TC either. That's interesting that the onc thought TC=CMF. If that's the case, I might lean towards the CMF, especially since the hair loss is an issue for you. There's a thread over on the "Help Me Get Through Treatment" board for CMF girls--you might want to check it out and see what they have to say about the hair loss on that regimen.

  • Ivylane
    Ivylane Member Posts: 544
    edited October 2008

    Michelle:  I had neuropathy with the taxol, but it slowly went away after treatment ended. No problems now.

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