Any Her2/Neu Starting Chemo in October?

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  • Seven11
    Seven11 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2010

    Gayle - Pepper?  Do tell.

  • Alicia1313
    Alicia1313 Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2008
    SmileHi: Alicia here. I will be put on Femara as I am Estrogen Positive. I may also be getting Chemo after the surgery. I had a full body PET Scan done last Thursday, so I will find out if I have The Mets on Monday. Please pray for me that I don't!!! Thank you, and God Bless!
  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited October 2008

    Hi bluedasher....I didn't get the results of my muga yet.  The test itself was a breeze.  Looks like you and I are on the same schedule.  I get my port next week and then TCH starting on the 29th. 

    I hear you about the hair.  I'm a little concerned about what to do myself.  I have a hair appt. scheduled for Friday and I'm going to ask them to cut it waaayyy down short, but I've decided to wait and see what happens after the first treatment and then take it from there.  Good luck to you and I pray that you will have few SE from the chemo.  I hope that your business trip goes well.

    All the best to everyone here.

    Anne 

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2008

    I just finished watching the Lifetime movie. I actually cried for the first time since I was diagnosed. I quess I needed to do that.

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited October 2008

    In my understanding, both MUGA scans and echocardiogram can be used to check the heart before Herceptin. Both can provide a measurement of LVEF, but the MUGA seems to be more commonly used for the chemo checks. I don't know why.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited October 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I will be finishing chemo at the end of Nov... but have lost all the hair by late July. I wanted to pass on a tip... LINT ROLLER. This worked great for me..lol. I rolled it over my short/buzzed head 2-3 times a day... no clogged drains.. no hair pieces on pillow..etc..

    Just wanted to pass on some advice that worked for me....

    I hope you all go through chemo with little or no SE! You CAN do this!

    Gods Love,

    Laura

  • kimy
    kimy Member Posts: 23
    edited October 2008

    Bluedasher - you are right about ECHOs or MUGAs being used to check the heart prior to (and during) Herceptin. I had (and will continue to receive) ECHOs, since my doctor prefers them to MUGAs. She gave me a technical reason as to why she prefers them, but, unfortunately, I don't recall what she said.

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    Hope you are all hanging in there. Had my port placed on Thusday in my left arm. Procedure was quick not a lot of pain. Just have a big bruise on my arm now! Anyway I have finally updated out list...boy has it grown. If I have forgotten anyone please let me know and I will add you. If anything else has changed let me know too.

    Here it is...

    August? - Chelli  - Treatment: Herceptin, Cytoxan, Epirubicin, Taxotere, every 3wks

    August 29- Gaylee -: Treatment: 4-6 rounds of chemo on a 3-week cycle -- TCH the first week, then just Herceptin the next 2 weeks. 

    Sept. 18- Christina 66 - Treatment:

    Sept. 22-  LuvLafLern - Treatment: Herceptin and Taxol for the next three months every week. Then it shifts to FEC and Herceptin

    Sept.?-  KLF - Treatment: TCH X6 every three weeks

    Sept. 25 - Terille - Treatment: AC+H

    Welcome Ana! luv the cosmic joke thing I am due for my period a week ago and start Chemo this Thursday. I hope it comes soon!!

    Sept. 26 - Anglo74 - Treatment:TCHA X6

    Oct 2 - TNT - Treatment: taxotere, cytoxan and herceptin for 4 tx, every three weeks, then a year of herceptin only.-

    TNT...I have had the test and glad I did. I have 2 little girls to think of in the future. It came back negative THANK GOODNESS!

    Oct. 2-  Dee Marie- Treatment:

    Oct. 9 - pandazankar - Treatment:

    Oct. 15 - Zaks Mom- Treatment: AC

    Welcome! It is all very overwhelming at first. This board is a great help! How did you do ?

    Oct. 16 - StrongMom - Treatment:

    Welcome.....How did it go yesterday?

    Oct. 23 - KimmySue - TCH x6  Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Oct. 27 - Bluedasher-  TCH X6. Herceptin once every three weeks

    Oct. 29 My2boys - Treatment:TCH X6

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited October 2008

    KimmySue, my herception continues for a year too.

    TNT, I'm trying to decide about whether to have the genetic test. I don't have any daughters but I have sisters and a granddaughter. On the other hand, as far as I know there is no family history of breast cancer or prostate cancer (some variations of the gene also make breast cancer more likely) and I was over 50 (56) when diagnosed with breast cancer. I probably wouldn't consider the test at all except that I am of Ashkhenazic Jewish descent and I'm not sure that I have accurate 2nd degree family history information. 

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2008

    KimmySue- you forgot me! Oct 2 and everything is the same as TNT (Teena)

    Linda

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Bluedasher & Linda,

    I updates my list and will repost ot on Wed, once I get any other changes.

    Bluedasher when do you officially start?

    Kim

  • bluedasher
    bluedasher Member Posts: 1,203
    edited October 2008

    Kim, you have my start date correct on the list - a week from Monday. I get my port and chemo class on Thursday.

  • atom
    atom Member Posts: 2
    edited October 2008

    Hi, I am new at this.  I am Her2 + and one of the oncologist told me that my tx plan is to have herceptin, carbol and taxol.  Another oncologist suggested herceptin and taxol and another one suggested herceptin, carbol and taxotere.  He said that taxotere is better than taxol.  does anyone know anything about it?

    Is anyone getting taxol and herceptin only?  I think I read that someone here is having taxol and herceptin only, how is that working for you?  I know that if you have herceptin and taxol you won't lose your hair and the side effects are not that strong. 

    I am having my port this wednesday and I am really scared.  I've been reading a lot and I do believe that there is a natural or better way to treat cancer other than chemo.  I also read that DIM or I3C also helps to lower your estrogen.  Anybody know anything about it?  For those in chemo, I read that taking calcium with vitamin D is good to prevent bone density loss. 

    I am trying to find holistic/natural ways to treat this cancer.  I do believe if we eat healthy and if our immune system is strong, it should be able to fight cancer.

    does any of your tx plan includes tamoxiffen?  I am premenopausal.

    Good luck to everybody.

  • tbird57
    tbird57 Member Posts: 150
    edited October 2008

    Welcome, atom.  This board is a great source of information and support.  We are all scared at first, but once you actually start, it's better for most of us because then the fear of the unknown is gone.  I too thought there must be a better way to treat this thing - I asked one of the surgeons I consulted about alternative treatments and he said, "yes, there are many alternative treatments but the problem with them is that everybody dies."  I decided not to take any chances. But certainly eating healthy and taking care of yourself is a great thing to do and will help you get through treatment.  And we will, too.

    bluedasher and kimmysue - I may yet do the genetic test because of the ovarian cancer risk factor mostly.  Kim, glad yours was negative!   I have one daughter and I've already cautioned her about having a mammo by the time she's 30 (she's 26 now and pregnant with my first grandbaby - a boy! Smile

    Kim, you're having tx on Thursday too, right?  Wishing you mild SEs and an easy tx - and the same to everyone else in the chair this week.  Bluedasher, good luck with the port placement on Thursday.

    Work has been so incredibly busy and Monday approaches...best to all,

    Teena

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Atom.

    Hello and welcome ...sorry to hear about you diagnosis. I will say that right now is absolutely the toughest time when you are newly diagnosed. You get so many different opinions and wonder if anybody really knows anything about this disease. The problem is there is not a cure yet so it is a type of guessing game that will drive anyone crazy.

    What is your diagnosis? Size of tumor, grade, ay lymph nodes, stage, ERPR Status? All of these will contribute to the type of treatment you will get. All of the onco's that I saw suggested the same plan for me which is Taxotere, Carboplatin and Herceptin x 6. You can read my diagnosis below.

    I too hated the thought of chemo. I spoke with a nutritionist with a specialty in cancer and asked her about the natural approach and she said many try that but end up coming back when it is too late. I am not saying the natural approach does not work but I do not want to take that chance.

    Have you heard about the Adjuvant Online test? It gives the Abolute Benefit of chemotherapy. Meaning if you take chemo it will add on a certain percentage to your survival in the future. This may make it easier for you to make a decision. Ask yo onco. to do this for you. They all can pull it up. Mine was without chemo I had a 50/50 chance that it might come back. with chemo it gave me another 25% and then with Herceptin another 12%. This added up to over 80% survival as opposed to 50%. I have 2 little girls so I chose to do chemo as it would be a flip of the coin for me.

    Also the BRAC1 & BRAC2 test will tell if it is genetic. Mine was not but still chose chemo.

    Also a good movie to watch is CRAZY SEXY CANCER. You can get it at the library or Blockbuster. She had stage 4 and tried every natural approach known to man an the tumors are still there. They were very slow growers. She still had I think 26 or so tumors.

    Bottom line it is your choice on what to do. Do not let anyone rush you into treatment. Take time to get the facts.

    I will pray for you to find some peace with this. It does not come easy but it will over time and getting good info.

    Take care.

    Kim

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited October 2008

    Hello all. had my first chemo (A/C) on Thursday then neulasta shot on Friday. I can not believe how nauseous I was and out of it. Today, Monday I am back at work, but still not myself at all. All I can say is it sucks. It was so hard to drink any fluids or eat. I had to get IV fluids on Friday due to dehydration. That made me feel better for a bit, but I still don't feel like drinking anything. I know it is important. UGGGG. I watched that movie last night on Lifetime about the Herceptin. What an amazing story. Thank goodness for that doctors dedication. I am trying to stay positive but I am finding it so difficult. It has only been one treatment so far..between the a/c and taxol I've got a long 5 months ahead of me!

  • Gayleebug
    Gayleebug Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2008

    strongmom27 -- I watched the movie last night too.  I was just blown away by the doctor's persistence and faith in his drug!  I'm not a cryer ("stiff upper lip" is my middle name) but had tears in my eyes at several points.

    Is your onc team giving you anything for nausea?  Right before the chemo, my onc nurse first gives me a bag of an anti-nausea drug called Aloxi.  (I also get a bag of Benedryl, and 2 Tylenol by mouth.)  Mabe it's the Aloxi or maybe I'm just lucky, but I've never been nauseous.  I'm in the middle of round 3 right now.  I was also prescribed some anti-nausea pills called Promethazine.  I filled the Rx just in case but haven't had to use them.

     Take care,

    Gayle

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Oh strong mom...

    My thoughts and heart go out to you. Did you try the 24 hour Clariton before the Neulasta shot? You are supposed to get it in the stomach and it helps with bone pain etc. (so they say).

    I start this Thursday and am very scared. My friend recommended accupunture before and after treatment. I am trying this and will let you know it it helps. I am sooooo sorry you are so sick. Cancer sucks big time. I am watching the movie tonight.

    Hang in there girl and keep posting when you feel good. I hope the people at work are sympathetic to you. I know it is hard for others to understand unless you are going through it.

    Try to stay positive

    Luv,

    Kim

  • strongmom37
    strongmom37 Member Posts: 36
    edited October 2008

    I was on Zofran and decodron for 3 days..don't know what it would have been like without them. I never actually vomited, but just didn't want to take anything in. I thought for sure from the steroid I would be chowing down. The neulasta side effects have not been so bad so far, just a bit achy. My job and boss are great. I have no worries here. I have a very flexable schedule thank goodness. Don't worry if you have not started yet Kim, it affects everyone different and from what I have read most people don't feel too sick after.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    kimmysue - tx began Aug 18... thanks for the list and keeping up with it!

    Had tx #4 yesterday, I think that is my halfway point.  Dr. still not sure how many, but probably 8.  Not feeling too bad today, slept for about 12 hours last night, but I'm up and around and feeling ok today.  My dog has to go for her mastectomy and get spayed tomorrow, so I have to get out of the house for a little bit tomorrow.  I'm going to take it easy Friday too.  I slept through most of my tx yesterday, when I woke up, I got up to go to restroom and caught the IV tube on the doorknob, pulled it out.  Didn't really hurt to re-insert it though, she was able to get it back through same hole.  They said I'm the first to ever do that, go figure.  I have another PET CT in two weeks, hoping for the best.  The muga came back at 71%, so that's great, only a 5% decrease in 3 months.  Hope everyone is doing well. I'll be okk for a few days, gonna stay in bed with a book!

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited October 2008

    Just checking in after tx#2.  My gosh it was like night and day from this tx to the first.  This time I've been tired, a little neausea, and some bathroom issues :( but really not bad at all.  I hope the rest of my treatments go like this. I almost thought maybe they forgot to actually give me chemo maybe it was just saline.  

    Teena-Hi, hope you doing good!!

    Kimy-seems I am following in your footsteps with tx2.  Hopefully 3 is as "easy" at 2!

    Chelli-My hubby went to St Thomas Moore. We are probably coming up sometime before Thanksgiving.  Of course it all depends how I feel. 

    Take Care!

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2008

    Well tomorrow is #2, I hope it goes as well as #1. I still get nervous though.

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Hello ladies!

    Today I had my first Round of Chemo. Got there at 9:30a.m. and left at 4:15p.m. Got my vitals then met with the doc. Amazingly he is going to give me what the study recommends Taxotere, Cytoxin and Hercpetin for only 4 rounds. Unfortunately the Study is not open. He believes since my nodes are negative this will be enough. You have no idea how happy I was to hear that!  Praise the Lord!  I also told him I did not want  the Nuelasta until it is needed. He said fine so on day 10 I will get my WBC's checked. Anyway last night I took a Compazine and Ativan at 8:00p.m. In the morning I took at Emmend to 9:45a.m. No nausea yet and it is 11:00p.m. However I did have diarrhea. Took some Imodium at 5:00 and just have a grubly tummy now. Not sure if it was nerves or the drugs. I also ate a lot of fiber yesterday so that may have contributed to the diarrhea.  I just now took another Compazine and Ativan at 10.45 just in case.

    Overall the first day was pretty unexciting. Went to my Moms bible study ad watched a good movie.

    Anyway just wanted to give the upcoming chemo girls a run down of what to expect!

    So my new treatment is Taxotere, Cytoxin, x4 Herceptin x12

    Talk to you all soon! Hope everyone is well!!!!

    Luv Kim

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Hi ladies,

    Here is our updated list!

    August 18 - Chelli  - Treatment: Herceptin, Cytoxan, Epirubicin, Taxotere, every 3wks

    August 29 - Gaylee - Treatment: 4-6 rounds of chemo on a 3-week cycle -- TCH the first week, then just Herceptin the next 2 weeks. 

    Sept. 18 - Christina 66 - Treatment:

    Sept. 22 - LuvLafLern - Treatment: Herceptin and Taxol for the next three months every week. Then it shifts to FEC and Herceptin

    Sept.?-  KLF - Treatment: TCH X6 every three weeks

    Sept. 25 - Terille - Treatment: AC+H

    Sept. 26 - Anglo74 - Treatment:TCHA X6

    Oct 2 - TNT - Treatment: taxotere, cytoxan and herceptin for 4 tx, every three weeks, then a year of herceptin only.-

    Oct. 2 -  Dee Marie- Treatment:

    Oct. 2 - plakatakr - Treatment: taxotere, cytoxan and herceptin for 4 tx, every three weeks, then a year of herceptin only.-

    Oct. 9 - pandazankar - Treatment:

    Oct. 15 - Zaks Mom- Treatment: AC

    Oct. 16 - StrongMom - Treatment:

    Oct. 23 - KimmySue  - Treatment: TCytoxinH x4  Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Oct. 27 -  Bluedasher -  Treatment: TCH X6. Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Oct. 29 -  My2boys - Treatment:TCH X6

  • Gayleebug
    Gayleebug Member Posts: 166
    edited October 2008

    Hi Kimmysue

    I'd like to update my treatment based on what my onc is telling me:

    6 rounds of chemo on a 3-week cycle -- taxotere, carboplatin, and herceptin (TCH) the first week, then just herceptin the next 2 weeks.  My last day of chemo should be the 18th of Dec.  Then after surgery & rads, like you, I will get herceptin once every 3 weeks for a year.

  • kimmysue
    kimmysue Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2008

    Hello ladies...Here is another updated list. Felt nausea off and on all day. Not too bad though!

    Went to accupuncture and it helped for about 2 hours!

    August 18 - Chelli  - Treatment: Herceptin, Cytoxan, Epirubicin, Taxotere, every 3wks

    August 29 - Gayleee - Treatment: 6 rounds of chemo on a 3-week cycle -- TCH the first week, then just Herceptin the next 2 weeks. Then Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Sept. 18 - Christina 66 - Treatment:

    Sept. 22 - LuvLafLern - Treatment: Herceptin and Taxol for the next three months every week. Then it shifts to FEC and Herceptin

    Sept.?-  KLF - Treatment: TCH X6 every three weeks

    Sept. 25 - Terille - Treatment: AC+H

    Sept. 26 - Anglo74 - Treatment:TCHA X6

    Oct 2 - TNT - Treatment: taxotere, cytoxan and herceptin for 4 tx, every three weeks, then a year of herceptin only.-

    Oct. 2 -  Dee Marie- Treatment:

    Oct. 2 - plakatakr - Treatment: taxotere, cytoxan and herceptin for 4 tx, every three weeks, then a year of herceptin only.-

    Oct. 9 - pandazankar - Treatment:

    Oct. 15 - Zaks Mom- Treatment: AC

    Oct. 16 - StrongMom - Treatment:

    Oct. 23 - KimmySue  - Treatment: TCytoxinH x4  Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Oct. 27 -  Bluedasher -  Treatment: TCH X6. Herceptin once every three weeks for a year

    Oct. 29 -  My2boys - Treatment:TCH X6

  • tbird57
    tbird57 Member Posts: 150
    edited October 2008

    Hi everyone,

    Ango74, good to "see" you here and I'm glad to hear your tx went well! 

    How's everyone else doing who was in the chair this week?  I had my 2nd tx Thursday, and it went much faster than the first tx - about 3-1/2 hours total instead of 5 hours.  Thank goodness they didn't give me the bag o'benedryl this time.  That was the only part of it I really hated, right before the first herceptin, in case you're allergic.  I feel okay, just a little tired at work yesterday, and went to sleep early last night.

    I'm running an experiment.  They give me Emend anti-nausea meds in my IV with the decadron to begin tx and want me to take an Emend pill on days 2 and 3 - but they also prescribe compazine and kytril for nausea!  I think 3 meds is a lot, so I didn't fill the Emend pills this time (2 pills of this stuff on my BCBS insurance costs $50).  So far, so good.  Tomorrow night will be the test, as that was the only touch of nausea I experienced last time.

    Kim, I'm glad to hear you're doing well!  You're getting exactly what I'm getting and on the same schedule, too - only your #1 was my #2.  What study are you referring to?  I thought there was an open phase II trial of that tx combo, but wasn't aware of any other.  Linda (plakatakr) is also on our schedule, same stuff. (How'd it go?)  My next tx #3 is November 13.

    How's the hair?  My hair started out as thick, 12 inches long.  About day 14 or so, a few strands started coming out in the brush.  By day 18, thicker strands started coming out in my hand, so my husband cut it just above shoulder length.  Handfuls have been coming out since, and now it's day 24 following the first tx and something needed to be done (my colleague at work said she found a piece of hair on the way in and thought "Teena's been here").   So, I had my husband crop it about 1/2" on the sides and 1" on the top with clippers.  It's thin and still falling out, but I still have some for now.   Estepp - great tip for the lint roller!  I found one at Target for $1. Also wear a hairnet to cook and lint roll myself before going into the kitchen.  I tried to wear the hairnet to sleep, too, but it doesn't stay on.

    Take care everyone.  My prayers are with you!

    Teena

  • plakatakr
    plakatakr Member Posts: 188
    edited October 2008

    I had #2 and am still on my steroid high. The bottom should fall out Monday morning if this is like last time.

    Glad to here everyone else seems to be doing well this time.

    I still don't have a port so I guess it takes longer for my treatments. Next time they will add the Herceptin. My onc isn't pushing it. He thinks my veins will hold out???

    I just have fuzz on my head. My hubby returned from Germany last night and today he had his head buzzed to make me feel better. It doesn't. His will start growing back tomorrow!

    Linda

  • jill323
    jill323 Member Posts: 412
    edited October 2008

    Kimmysue -

    Wow!  Cannot believe that you can keep track of all this.   Sorry to be a late comer, but I started chemo last Thursday (Oct. 23).   My regimen is Taxol+ Herceptin (still determining number of rounds) and then Herceptin for a year.   

    I got my port last Monday and then they started up treament last Thursday with the lovely Neulasta shot on Friday.   Felt like hell over the week end - lots of joint and muscle aches and very fatigued.  But, the cocktails of medicines they gave me to ward off the severe side effects like nausea/vomiting appear to be working.

    I wish the best to everyone starting their treatment courses !   Keep the faith.

    Jill

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    jill323- Welcome, I'm kinda new too.  I actually started in August, didn't get online till late Sept, and this was the only Her+ group I found.  Neulasta sucks, but after the 3rd one, I don't feel the stick anymore.  The bone pain is unbelievable at times, but everytime I feel that, I think... "That means it's all working!"  Good luck to you!

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