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  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited September 2008

    Hey Estepp......Good luck tomorrow with your treatments, you'll be fine...Just think of each treatment as one step closer to the 80 yrs you want to see.....I didn't start counting down until I hit the half way mark, which comes around quicker than you think.

    Bluewillow, Congrats on being almost done, 3 more yahoooooooo, my doctor and the office staff gave me a huge bunch of wildflowers and roses when I finished my trial, I was so happy I don't know if I was crying for the flowers or being done, but the tears kept coming lol...

    Take care ladies  Hugs Klynn 

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Thank you ladies... I suppose I am just so afraid of being allergic and a bad reaction tomorrow. I am afraid the herceptin wont work for me...etc... you ALL understand where I am coming from.

    I have to take my steroid pretty soon before bed ( hopefully I will sleep).. and then in the morning.

    I suppose I will have to do this every Sunday and Monday as I have treatment every monday now..

    Ugggg this is so hard for us.

    Gods Love,

    Laura

  • DianaT
    DianaT Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2008

    Good luck and prayers with you Estepp.  I sometimes think I would have done chemo first if I hadn't been so terrified of the lump.  Taxol and herceptin treat everyone different.  I had the taxotere with herceptin and herceptin alone has given me no troubles.  If you feel up to in, let us know how you do tomorrow!!!

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Thanks Diana, I will...

    Why do some get taxol and some txotere?

  • DianaT
    DianaT Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2008

    I am not sure, I know my onc likes taxotere and then uses taxol if there is a reaction to the taxotere.  I knew a lady that had the reaction to taxotere so he switched her to taxol.  I had skin reactions to taxotere but he wouldn't switch me.  I wanted to add in the last post but didn't and took you posting as a sign that I should tell you how lovely your picture is and you look so beautiful with your smiling face.  Victory is yours! 

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Ah, thanks Diana. I keep that picture up ( even though I am bald now) becasue so many ladies say it makes them smile to see it.

    Victory better be ALL of ours huh!

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Hi all , I survived yesterday! Wahoooo.. I am such a baby..lol...So far I cannot tell I have any chemo yesterday..  but it might take a while to kick in.

    I did get red face last night but that is less today. I did eat my house out... which,.. is weird for me. I hope that stops! I guess the steroids. Today.. I am not craving food yet. I ate for two yesterday..LOL

    I hope this finds all of you well!

    Laura

  • DianaT
    DianaT Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2008

    I gained ALL the 10 pounds back that I had lost during my first four treatments with my last four treatments.  I also went for my herceptin last thursday and I have gained another 3 pounds!! I need to stop eating!!

  • Amers
    Amers Member Posts: 82
    edited September 2008

    Same here--after this whole brain radition thing is over --its onto tykerb an xeloda

    They have to pin point this stupid thing!  I feel like we are just on the verge--Jerseymaria and I are going to hang in there-herceptin may not have done it for us--but maybe tykerb-or this new vaccine are going to be it!

    Like they said on the stand up to cancer show--you can smell the cure in the air--just like you smell the rain before it comes......

    Amy 

  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited September 2008

    amy i don't know if you read my many frantic posts on the bitching thread past few days, but i'm off xeloda after first week, got so sick.  won't start again till i see onc week from wed.  after one day off i feel incredibly better.  i'm starting tykerb tomorrow so i hope i have better luck.  she better lower my dosage or i may be shopping for a new onc.   i like t he idea of being tykerb-xeloda pals.    i'm curious now, if herceptin failed us can we still get the herceptin vacine...would it have any value for us?  i hope your se's are so small you can't find them. hugs maria

  • suemed8749
    suemed8749 Member Posts: 1,151
    edited September 2008

    Woo - hoo, Laura! You made it through #1 - congratulations. May they all go so well.

    Sue

  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited September 2008

    Hey there Maria,

    Sorry you had such a tough time with the xeloda..I had so many problems when I was on it, I had my dose reduced so many time, I lasted about 7 months on it before I refused to take it any more..The good news is that it definately started to work on the cancer after the taxol didn't work at all. I think I had every se you could possibly get on xeloda and then some. I would stay in my pj's for days, didn't even have the energy to shower ewwwwww...I read your post and the icky feelings started to stir in my stomach just thinking about it...Talk to your doc, they need to know how bad you are  feeling, don't believe "no one else gets those se's, it must be something else.." I haven't talked to my doc about the vaccine yet, I see him next month, but I will definately be asking him about all the details..I also live in Jersey, if you find you need a new doc, I really love mine..He was picked as one of the top docs in NJ monthly last fall. Good luck to you and I hope you feel better... Hugs KLynn   ps... there are a few of us (about 7 or so) that get together every once in a while here, you are always more than welcomed to join us...

  • jerseymaria
    jerseymaria Member Posts: 770
    edited September 2008

    klynn, i'd love to know the name of your onc if you don't mind. but of course the location matters.  i'm in the brick, toms river area.  i'm trying to check into moving back to central jersey....don't like it down here. there's an onc up there i'd love to go to...he's a doll but its too far for me as long as i live here. i'm on my second onc so part of me would hate to change but she's going to need to be understanding and flexible and not acting like i'm stupid and it's all in my head.  my problem with the xeloda is that tykerb works much better with it and since herceptin didn't help i don't know what other drugs could stop the her2 cells.  if i can't take it then am i screwed?

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Ty Sue!

    So far so good!

    Laura

  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited September 2008

    Hey Maria,

    I'll pm you tomorrow, I am VERY close to you, close enough for you to consider my doc....He is a doll, and has been treating me for over 8 yrs, He was also my mothers doc for over 12 yrs..I don't know  one patient that doesn't love him or his staff.....Talk to you tomorrw, good night , sweet dreams...Klynn 

  • KLynn
    KLynn Member Posts: 1,407
    edited September 2008

    Hey Maria,

        Check your mail hon, sent you a quick note..Good luck..   Hugs KLynn 

  • kimbly
    kimbly Member Posts: 398
    edited September 2008

    Hope it all went well Estepp.  I finished 6 rounds of tax/carbo and herceptin march 27 and it was very doable for me as well. I am still getting the herceptin only until December.   I bounced back quickly and 5 months later have hair and feel so good.  Enjoying every stinking day!  Herceptin vaccine is what I am interested in as well.  My dr said I would be a candidate.  Not sure what expression of her2 i had though as I am missing that path report for some reason.  My biopsy pathology got bounced from hospital to hospital as I was choosing doctors and the hospitals were in the midsts of buyouts too.  I should ask about that today.  I have my herceptin infusion this morning and maybe my nurses could look it up in my file.  hmmmm

  • DianaT
    DianaT Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2008

    I was told that the vaccine is available to all Her2+ expressers.  I will ask again when I see the oncologist.

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited September 2008

    I was supposed to have the Herceptine because I was Her2nue+ but when they did the heart scan they said no I can not have it because my heart was pumping a little slowly then normal. Has anyone on here had that happen to them as I am wondering how that will affect things. I have been told that it can really affect your heart that is why every so often you have to have a heart scan if you are taking it.  Sure wish I could take it as it really bothers me that I am her1nue+.

    Bonnie

  • Mitch56036
    Mitch56036 Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2008

    I'm also a herceptin survivor - finished 1 year's treatment in Novembe 06 (diagnosed Feb 05) and have just been for a check with my oncologist and am NED as far as we're aware.

    I asked him what his statistics were with herceptin - he only started treating women in 2006 and to date of the 55 women he has treated - only 3 have recurred.  One has died and the other two have receiving more treatment.  I think those are pretty good results - what do you all think? As always my heart goes out to the poor women who didn't make it but at least she had the opportunity to give it her best shot by at least having the opportunity to have herceptin.

  • tbird57
    tbird57 Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2008

    Hi everyone!

    I'm new and scheduled to begin chemo on October 3 - doing mammosite rads starting on Tuesday.  For the chemo, I'm only getting 4 cycles 3 weeks apart of TCH - then H for a year.  Is that enough?  My IDC was 8 mm with extensive DCIS surrounding it.  They took more than 10 cm of tissue all the way around and I had two surgeries to get clear margins...

    Praying for courage and good health for all of us,

    Teena

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2008

    Teena,

    I am going to be on the same cycle as you, TCH for 3wks. My IDC was 3cm and they took 7.5 DCIS surrounding it too.  I was also going to post this question today so I am glad you did.

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited September 2008

    Hi,

    The only thing I got different was the A in TCH. I had 4 AC.. then TC.. I also had some node involvement... I am still in chemo and am doing the TH part weekly and then the H for yr. I am doinf chemo first, then surgery... then I AM SURE they will want me to do rads which, for reconstruction purposes I wish I don't have to do.. but what ever I need, I will do.

    Maybe this is why you two are not getting a A... no node involvement. I really am not sure though.. as your onco.

    We are all so different.. Gods Love and Blessings !

    Laura

  • tbird57
    tbird57 Member Posts: 150
    edited September 2008

    Angie, don't you think they should take all that DCIS into consideration when they calculate the size of the affected area?  I do.  The pathologist is reissuing my report to define the area of DCIS, because I asked why EIC (extensive intraductal component) wasn't stated as "positive."  I'm still sore from the wide surgery area, are you?

    Laura,  how's the chemo going? 

    Peace and love,

    Teena

  • lisa39
    lisa39 Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2008

    Mitch - I think those are GREAT statistics!!! I love getting real life info like that.  Gives me a lot of hope for all of us.  BTW... check out the research and news board near the bottom... it has a link to a story about ther HER 2 vaccine.  Sounds like they are getting close to having it ready for widespread use.

    Lisa 

  • ango74
    ango74 Member Posts: 255
    edited September 2008

    Teena,

    They did redo my report to say the tumor was 11.5cm.  I just can't bring myself to change my tumor size in my signature. Sounds silly.  I am still sore from my surgery but it gets better everyday. 

    Laura, I do have node involement, a lot actually.  I just updated my signature.  I was surprised to be just on a 3wk cycle for 6 treatments.  I wonder why some are doing it weekly and some are doing it every 3wks. I will check with my onco.  

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited September 2008

    I was told by my Onco that the Evista I had been taking for over 12 years is helpful in preventing bc... NOT so with me..   But it could have helped it be an early detection with the lump I found myself.   Then she added that most cancers are there for a few years before they get diagnosed.  

    I will have Taxol/Herceptin # 8 on Thursday and my tumor continues to shrink - almost cannot feel it at all, like a pin head size, but that could be the marker they put in.   I love the statistics that were given to me:   12-20% better cure rate with the dose dense A/C and tax/her treatments before surgery as opposed to surgery first.   

    I had a second muga scan to check my heart function after the 4 dose dense A/C and my heart function was unchanged.  The words  " no co morbidity" were used - meaning no other things going on in my body.   However, I was told that radiation on the left side, where the heart is, WILL have at least an 8-10% affect on the heart...   I need to gather all my questions for the surgical consult coming up.   The onco says a lumpectomy will do the trick and I could care less about recon if a mast is better.   And as far as everyone can tell, I have no node involvement.  

    By the way (BTW) I am getting Paclitaxel -  

  • GramE
    GramE Member Posts: 5,056
    edited October 2008

    Hi everyone:  It seems this thread has stopped.  Are you all posting on another thread?   Laura and Bonnie, I know you are...   Have a good weekend.   Nancy

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited October 2008

    Hi Everyone

    I asked my oncologist about the Herceptin and he said it was my choice but being that I have finished chemo he said that the Herceptin would have little affect if any, as it is he said that the Herceptin has very little help if any, has not been proved that it works very good.  I had one mega scan that was bad then they did another when I finished chemo and it was ok, so he figures I am borderline on the heart in other-wards good this time bad next time. He said I would be taking a risk possibly on my heart by taking the Herceptin also.  The choice was mine and I opted to not take it.  What does everyone think?

    Bonnie

  • Estepp
    Estepp Member Posts: 6,416
    edited October 2008

    If you are Her2+++ I would GET A SECOND OPINION SOON!

    Laura

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