SEPTEMBER 2008 rads group

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  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2008

    Well, the final countdown is on. 3...2...Two more to go!

    I'm very red, now. Red like an apple. I had one small blister break and scab over, but that's all. The whole area's more sensitive. I wouldn't call it pain...more like irritation. On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd say it was a 1. But that may be because my nerves in that area are out of commission since my surgery, and I'm only feeling it on the fringes where the nerves are still in working order.

    But who cares!  I'm not feeling too bad, and this treatment is almost done!

    Fatigue...well, not really more than usual. It's hard to say if it's because I've been doing too much or it's the radiation.  

    Work...I've worked pretty much through all my treatments. Only extended time I took off was when I had to after my surgery. But in retrospect, if I had to do it all again, I would take more time off and maybe even go out on disability for longer. I didn't do myself any favors by coming in on bad days. Now that the fog of chemo-brain has lifted, I can see where I made some errors in judgement that may come back to haunt me in my annual review (some snippy emails, and not reacting quickly enough to my boss's requests). Too late to do much about it all now, but it's food for thought. Don't try to work if you have to make important decisions or have to do your work on deadline.

  • TexanCupig
    TexanCupig Member Posts: 1,539
    edited October 2008

    Hi y'all. 

    Well, I'll be going to my 11th this morning.

    As usual, I'm having issues with this whole radiation thing.  I just wish I could go home.  I WISH I could drive an hour a day to my appt and have a home to go to and a bed to lay down in.  I'm stuck staying at a place next to the hospital, that has a HARD bed, that's not my own, living out of a suitcase for another 4 1/2 weeks or so.

    I'm thankful for the family and friends I have here, and believe it or not, NancyD, I still haven't gone out to REALLY explore ANC!  One of my friends called me though, and hopefully, we'll be going to a bead show at the museum this weekend!

    Anyway, the weather just turned bad overnight, and we've been hearing that it's supposed to start snowing here...YEESH!  I hope it's not like this all weekend.  I hope y'all had a great week, and hope y'all have a better weekend!

  • Kpete
    Kpete Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2008

    I just finished my 16th treatment today - basically halfway done!  YEAH!  I have felt really good so far.  It's nice to get it over with first thing in the morning, then go to work, and get on with the rest of the day.  I'm starting to get a kind of rash on my chest - not the breast, and it itches a little, but I've been using the Aloe gel, and it does seem to help.  I visited with the rad. onc. earlier this week, and found out I was having 28 treatments, and 5 boosts.  I should of asked but I didn't - are the boosts just one shot aimed at the lumpectomy site?  Right now I get 2 zaps - it's on my left side.

     Hope everyone is doing well.  It's beautiful here in Kansas - weather wise, and the mums are gorgeous.  Have a great weekend.

     Kim

  • vhqh
    vhqh Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2008

    I finished up Tuesday, boosts were cancelled.  I've got a pretty sore spot on my neck where my tshirts have rubbed, also have a pretty sore spot in my armpit right at the top of the radiation field that I blame on friction from arm movement.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    Hi Sharon,

    I'm so sorry you are having to deal with being away from home. I wish you were more comfortable. Can you go out and buy a foam cover for the matress? Wow snow already?

    Yes, Kim the boosts are right on the lumpectomy scar.  The mums are beautiful here too!

    Take care everyone. Kiss Enjoy the weekend.

  • princessS
    princessS Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2008

    Well, I never thought I'd have trouble sleeping with this, BUT, yesterday I asked the dr. if I could take something to help me sleep at night.  It feels like there are little pins poking me beneath my armpit so the pain wakes me up.  After 2 sleepless nights, I finally had decent sleep last night.

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2008

    princessS - it's funny how the nerves react to this. Did you have nodes removed from your underarm? My underarm has been totally numb since my ALND, up to now. NOW they start to regenerate, NOW I'm feeling some pain. They couldn't wait a couple of weeks? What did your dr recommend?  Mine just said to take some ibuprofen. How bad is it during the day?

    Today, my chest looks like a red apple that someone has started to peel. The blisters have started to break, and the broken skin is getting swished around with the ointment application. If I sit still there is no pain, but movement causes the skin to crease, and even a little bit of creasing causes some irritaton. It's not a large area...about seven inches long x 3 inches wide, vertical on the left-center.

    My underarm area is much smaller, maybe 1 x 2 inches. And I've noticed there's an area developing on my back which is also small and not as irritated. These are way behind the chest area as far as irritation goes, but I'm told the effects may continue developing for some time after active treatment stops.

    Has anyone noticed anything happening to any moles/skin tags that were there previously? My mx scar was hiding a few that I thought might have been removed during surgery, but I'm seeing them now as they react differently than the skin to the rads.

    Well, I'm down to my final rad on Monday. I'd use that old adage about time flying but the second part surely isn't appliacble. But really, it did go quickly, more quickly than the month I was off after my surgery. Maybe working fulltime kept my mind occupied and I didn't dwell on the treatment.

  • tkone
    tkone Member Posts: 511
    edited October 2008

    Deb,

    Good for you for doing the 100 mile ride!  I am just starting to get my energy back after chemo and am feeling just a little bit late for all of the walks etc that are taking place for breast cancer awareness month.  Oh well....next year, right?

    Got through my first week of radiation.  Nothing to report.  Pretty easy and quick and not skin issues or fatigue yet.  I'm sure it will come, but I am so thankful to be feeling relatively normal that I am trying not to worry about it.

    Hope everyone has a good weekend.  It is raining here in Seattle and I will be spending my day outside watching my girls play soccer.  Ahhh, you gotta love fall!

  • roberta37
    roberta37 Member Posts: 371
    edited October 2008

    Wow everyone is just moving along.  vhgh - are you completely finished rads now - that must be awesome.  

    PrincessS - I've have had trouble sleeping since the beginning of this journey and starting rads has actually helped.  I've only done 9 so far so any side effects haven't really hit yet.

    NancyD - yea on having only one more to go.  I have to agree with you about work taking your mind off things.  I'm working part-time and it's more for me than for the place I work at.   They have been so awesome at the cancer center to schedule me mid day so I can go to work first for 4 hours and then 20 minute car ride to treatment and then 45 minute drive home.  Most days I'm home to meet my son half-way home from school.  He decided at the age of 9 that he was old enough to walk home from school on his own.  Love that he wants to be independent but it's a really busy street so I compromised and meet him part way were I can see him walking up the hill.  As we go on in the year he can walk more on his own.  

    Everything for me is going god so far - no real redness or soreness.  I'm going to try an acupuncturist today to see if some of the side effects (hot flashes, night sweat, insomnia and fatigue) can be  helped.  My extended medical actually pays for about 4 sessions so I thought it would be worth a try.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend.  It's raining her in Vancouver, BC but it makes for a good weekend to get indoor stuff done. 

  • Skye64
    Skye64 Member Posts: 109
    edited October 2008

    hi all,

    now I am 4 left. Just started with the boosts last week. That was easy. I counted 30 seconds during the treatment.  Am so looking forward when this is done.....7 weeks all day long......my skin is red but fine, no blisters...I am happy with that....no problems under the armpit. And for my stomach, the doc. gave me some Nexium and Xanax. Hmm, it is getting better. Maybe I am still angry at the whole thing. I have to get over it. After finishing radiation I will take a break for 4 weeks and then try the Tamox again. And if it will not work, I have to think about other possibilities. I am always doing some research on the internet about using the Tamox and about the dosis. Maybe some minimal low dosis is also working like 5 mg or 10 mg daily, but with less SE.

    Wish you all ladies a nice weekend and take good care of you skin..

  • princessS
    princessS Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2008

    Nancy D-I had DCIS so no nodes were messed with in the surgery.  I just took some Tylenol PM and that did the trick. 

    tkone-I started to feel the fatigue in the 3rd week, just a little.  By the 4th week it was gone, I am now in the 5th week.  I don't know if it will come back or not, we'll see.

  • vhqh
    vhqh Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2008

    I wish I could say I was all done!  We did scans 2 weeks ago and new mets showed up so I start a new round of 25 zaps Monday.

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    I finished treatment 13 this week and I can feel the fatigue - it didnt really hit until the weekend- I have kept up just feeling more tired than my usual self and going to bed earlier!

    Kristy 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    I'm so sorry vhqh - I know you are upset - I sure would be.  It blows me away how unfair life is.

    But keep going forward - you WILL get done!!!

  • roberta37
    roberta37 Member Posts: 371
    edited October 2008

    I'm sorry vhqh - that really sucks.  

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited October 2008

    Stephanie, let me know what your doctor says. My ps doesn't want to see me until March and predicts surgery in July or August. He prefers 9 months after rads.

    vhqh-Hugs, that totally sucks. Keep your faith, you will be done soon.

    Congrats to skye64 and Nancy D, I'm so jealous.

    Offically 1/3 of the way done. 

  • redheadace1
    redheadace1 Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2008

    NancyD and Skye--woohoo! So glad for you. NancyD, do you have any plans to celebrate after your final treatment tomorrow? We'll all be cheering for you.

     vhqh--Sending good thoughts your way.

    I've got 9 more to go. I was feeling pretty sore, but then my boss (who is an MD) gave me some pure calendula gel to put on my breast. I was a little reluctant, afraid it would interfere with rads, so I decided to just use it on the weekend. It helped SO MUCH after just one application. I was amazed. So I feel ready to tackle another nine treatments.

    Had to do a little bit of an attitude adjustment this weekend--had to fight down some anger and "Why me"s, but I think a lot of it was just pure fatigue. I felt like a fussy infant! Just needed to sleep it off.

     Here's to a good week for all of us! 

  • Makratz
    Makratz Member Posts: 12,678
    edited October 2008

    Congrats to NancyD!!!  One more and your done!  Go Celebrate!!!

    I have my 21st tomorrow.  I'm surprised that I am not as tired as I was in my 3-4 weeks.  I feel a lot better.  I still itch like CRAZY!  A friend of mine who is a nurse at Dana Farber brought me some Alra therapy lotion.  It works great.  It's not pasty like Aquaphor so you can rub it in gently and be more comfortable.  Its 100% Aloe Vera Gel, collagen, vitamin E lanolin and allantoin.  Works pretty well.

    Have a great week everyone! 

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2008

    Yes, ladies, today is my last one!  But I promise not to disappear.

    My family had a cake for me over the weekend...pink ribbon decoration and a lone candle to celeberate my last treatment. I think I will take flowers to my rad techs. They have been so nice. And the two people who work under me want to take me out for a drink...but not until tomorrow.

    My chest is pretty crusty...the broken blisters have scabbed over. But if it's anything like the sunburns I had in my youth, it will be gone in a few days. 

    So, now I'm down to Arimidex and whatever healthy changes I can make in my life to keep the bc from returning.

    vhqh - I'm so sorry to hear that there are new mets on the scans. We all know we're just a heartbeat away from becoming metsters, too, so it hits all of us pretty hard to hear of new ones or progression. Here's prayers that the new rads will take them out!

    Ace - calendula ointment is what my rad onc has been giving me. I can't say it did any great things for me, but then maybe I'd be worse than I am without it.  

    Makraz - that's the kind of lotion I wanted...not greasy like the ointments they've been giving me. Well, once I finish up today, I will switch to pure aloe vera. I've felt like I've HAD to use the calendula ointment while I was in treatment, but it's almost finished up and I won't ask for any more. 

  • nancy258
    nancy258 Member Posts: 162
    edited October 2008

    Congrats on those finishing up this week!  I'm going for #21 today, and at the same time I'm there they are going to do CT scans and prep for the boosts that will start next week.

    PrincessS, I continue to have trouble sleeping.  Got some stuff from my PCP that did help for a couple weeks.  I'd still wake up but wouldn't stay awake so I could get a more restful sleep.  Lately, I'm waking up more and more and I'm wondering if it's the steroid cream.  I'm also irritable and annoyed at everything.  Has anyone ever heard of that or experienced that?  I'm going to ask the doctor today.

    Hang in there vhqh.  Hugs and well wishes your way.

  • KristyAnn
    KristyAnn Member Posts: 793
    edited October 2008

    Wishing everyone a good week and extending congratulations to those of you who are finishing- be sure to stick around and drag the rest of us across the finish line!

    Kristy

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2008

    DONE!  And not a moment too soon. My blistering chest has scabbed over and the nurse practitioner gave me some antibiotic pads to put on daily. She says it will get a little worse before it gets better. Don't you love how they mange to minimalize the s/e's... "a little worse"...does that mean my skin will drop off to the third layer or just manage spread the crust? So the discharge orders are to come back in a week for a skin check.

    I did bring my techs each a little bouquet. They've been the soldiers in this phase of the battle...setting up everyday, being my cheerleaders with encouragement, keeping track of my schedule day in and day out. The rad onc may be the general, but we all know who gets the work done!

  • roberta37
    roberta37 Member Posts: 371
    edited October 2008

    NancyD - great that you've crossed the finish line.  It's been a long road.

    I just did my 10th today and so far everything looks normal.  Did feel tired today but I think that's more the lack of sleep than the radiation.

    I'm getting pretty impatient with the hair - seems to be coming in very slooooooooowly.  My husband likes to point out patches coming in - like I need to hear that.  How long did it take for people's eyelashes to come in after they fell out after chemo (mine lasted 6 weeks and then were gone).

    I get a break this weekend as it's our Thanksgiving (Canadian) so I'm looking forward to that.

    Hope everyone has a great week. 

  • vhqh
    vhqh Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2008

    It's been a week since my last regular zap and I am still pretty sore.  I put aloe on early this morning and it actually seems a little better tonight.  I am wondering if I didn't need to let it dry up a little and crust over. 

    I appreciate everyone's prayers and thoughts, I hesitated to even say anything about it as I know most here are fairly early in this journey and I didn't want to scare anyone.  I have brain mets and started whole brain radiation this morning.  The official prognosis is poor but I am not a statistic, there seem to be more and more people living years after being diagnosed with brain mets and I have a number of factors that are strongly in my favor to join their ranks.  Herceptin appears to have worked a little too well for me and left the cancer no where to go but the brain which Herceptin cannot reach.  The only suggestion I would make to others here is for those who are HER/2 posititve to get a brain MRI annually, even if you have to conveniently get a severe headache to get it. 

  • KAK
    KAK Member Posts: 1,679
    edited October 2008

    Hi, everyone!  I've missed you all!   Vhgh, I am stunned to hear your news.  I hope that treatment helps.  I will be thinking of you & praying for you, as I'm sure everyone else here will, too.  Please keep letting us know how you are.

    I've been really down for the count since I last posted with the combination of the cold & the end of rads. Turned out I had a sinus infection, so last Friday, my primary doc put me on an antibiotic, so I'm starting to feel better from that.  And I finished rads today!  Yay!  There was some confusion about whether I was going to get boosts, but no boosts, so I'm really done!  Congrats to NancyD, too!  After my last rad this morning, I went to visit two of my oldest gal pals, who first made me breakfast, then later took me out to lunch.  This weekend is the BC Waterfire in Providence, so I plan to go to that, too.  May have to do a bit of retail therapy this week! ;)

    Ace, NancyD, vhqh & everyone, they gave me Silvadene cream for the bad blistering/burning.   That Alra stuff sounds great, too that Makraz mentioned.  I started to get red last Wednesday & by today, I started having what they told me is folliculitis, where the hair follicles open up & get red & blistery/weepy. With the 3-week protocol, they told me I'm going to get worse all this week & maybe into next week, then get better.  I've been using straight aloe, but not too much Aquaphor because it's too goopy.  Today I put on the Silvadene, which did feel soothing & laid down with a soft-covered gel cold-pack on my whole breast.  That felt great!  I go back to see them in two weeks so they can see what my skin is doing.

    Ace, maybe you should call your primary doc about your asthma & not wait till you see the rad onc again.  One thing I do know about asthma (I get it if I have a bad allergy attack or a bad cold) is that lying down flat, like we do when we get rads, is a position that exacerbates bronchial inflammation.  In fact, I did have to use my inhaler last week myself before & after radiation, because of this damn sinus infection making me cough so much.

    I'm glad I'm not going to work this week!  I plan to go back next week.  I pretty much didn't have a choice about staying out of work this whole time since my lumpectomy, because I have to be able to lift patients in my job (I'm a PT), & my surgeon wouldn't allow me to do that kind of lifting for at least six weeks.

    Happy Thanksgiving to Roberta37.  I don't know, Roberta, you look pretty cute in your photo, even without hair!  But I send you lots of "hair-raising" thoughts.  You know, one of the ironies of this whole experience is that a year ago, I grew my hair long & sent it to Pantene's Beautiful Lengths program, which makes wigs for women with breast cancer!  So, who knows, maybe one of you out there is wearing my hair!!!

    Hugs, Kathi

    P.S.  Here's my blog link again, as requested:  www.kksphotos.com/blog.html   Enjoy!

  • redheadace1
    redheadace1 Member Posts: 212
    edited October 2008

    vhqh--I will be praying for you! Is that your horse in your avatar box? Beautiful! Please keep us posted on how you are doing.

    NancyD and Kak--Hurray! Congratulations. I'll be done soon, too. One more regular treatment tomorrow and then seven boosts. Kathi, I love your blog. I'm trying to start one but I think the format intimidates me a bit.

    Oh, and as far as my lung thing, that seems to have resolved itself after a few days of my new, stronger asthma prescription. So I guess maybe it didn't have anything to do with rads.

    Hope the rest of the week goes well for us all.

    Ace 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    Congrats to our finishers! Cool

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2008

    vhqh - If it's scabbing over, don't let it go without an antibiotic. You need to have something on it along with a gauze pad to protect it from chaffing, otherwise your clothes will keep rubbing it and opening the scabs which can lead to infection. And the weeping serum can dry and make your clothes stick.

    My NP gave me some Xeroform pads. They're soaked with a yellow antibiotic ointment which makes them so goopy they stick by themselves...but you do need the gauze to protect whatever you're wearing and give you a touch more protection from chaffing. If your rad onc or regular onc doesn't give you anything, I suggest making your own with a topical antibiotic like Bacitracin or Neosporin.

    KAK - yep, my NP actually said it was a dermatitis rather than a burn (after I made the comparison to a bad sunburn I had in my youth). Folliculitis is even more specific.

    Happy Thanksgiving, Roberta. I know what you mean about the hair. Mine has been coming back slower than when I was on my chemo break. Some hairs are 1/2" long, which would be a wearable length but it's so sparse that I really can't go without my wig, yet. I think it's starting to fill in, but the hair is so white it's hard to tell. Anyway, I hope to have enough hair to ditch my wig for our Thanksgiving, November 27th.

    Kristy, Sharon, Nancy, Rose, Tracy, Makraz, princessS, Kim, Roxi, Ace...how y'all doing?

    Finishing rads may be the last some of you have in the line of treatment if you are not going to take the anti-hormonal meds, so be aware that there is a chance of depression setting in (and this is true even if taking an anti-hormonal). Most rad oncs, or regular oncs, will refer you to counseling, and if they are part of a large cancer center, it's usually in the same location (one-stop shopping!). If you start feeling blue, ask one of them for a referral or prescription for some anti-anxiety meds. They don't make everything better, but they help to take the edge off so you can think clearly and get things done. So far, I've managed without one of the everyday ones, but I definitely needed (and am so thankful for) Valium during my periods of high anxiety.

    And take advantage of anything your center offers in the way of nutritional counseling. This is another important step we can take ourselves to build up our strength and resistence. My rad discharge papers included a list of phone numbers for some of these services, and I plan to check some of them out over the next few months.

    Arms up! 

  • princessS
    princessS Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2008

    I have one more regular zap and then 8 boosts and I'm done.  I think I have the flu, though.  My 4 yr old had something last week and I got a flu shot on Thurs yet I'm very achy, feverish, and sore throat.  Not fun, and then add the peeling, burning skin.  I'm quite a mess lately.

  • embmom
    embmom Member Posts: 115
    edited October 2008

    Congrats on finishing Nancy!  We have both been doing this for about the same time and it seems like forever!  Yesterday I had kind of a meltdown and skipped the rad appt.  My dh drove me over as usual but I was so upset about everything and especially my hair that I put my foot down and just couldn't go in.  I guess I just had to have some control back over something.  I ended up walking back the 2 1/2 miles back home from the center at 7:30 in the morning and I had forgotten my hat so I was cold and angry!  Anyway by the time I got home and cried for a bit I called the doc and explained to her what happened.  She said she understood and just to come in today which is what I did.  Thankfully the techs didn't say anything.  They had called yesterday and I said I wasn't feeling well.  Anyway I only have the five boosts to go and then I'm done.  I am really upset about my hair tho..it's been since mid June when I had my last chemo and I barely have more than just long fuzzies..no real hair.  I have some social stuff coming up in the nest 2 weeks and I am just really upset.  I just can't wear the wig anymore.. I have been wearing this stupid ball cap--I've never worn one before in my life--anyway enough whining--I asked the doc if she ever had anyone not get their hair back and she said no--but I keep thinking maybe I did something wrong and it's not coming back..anyway I'm all done next Wed. and I have a great trip to Florida this weekend with friends to take me away from this for at least a couple of days.  Thanks for letting me whine...Godd thoughts and wishes to you all.  Embmom

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