ALL MY TRIPLE NEG SISTERS!

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  • slonedeb
    slonedeb Member Posts: 562
    edited September 2008

    girls you all are triple neg i am erpr postive her2 neg what does that make me i have been fighting liver bone skull and chest mets for a year now the chest mest just showed up about a month ago  deb from ky

  • March907
    March907 Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2008

    Hello Slonedeb,

    You are not triple negative.  There is another site, BCMets.org that would reflect your situation more.  Triple Negative cancer means Estrogen negative, Progesterin Negative and Herceptin Negative.  You can take estrogen inhibitors which will prolong your life.  We can't. 

    Wishing you the best....March  

  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited September 2008

    Deb you are not triple neg. but it is good that you are HER2 neg.

    I love reading all your stories of success and HOPE.

    Shirlann is right- we are a tough bunch!

    March, I have answered you other places- so I won't repeat myself except to say that you have a fight on your hands but by no means are you done with that fight- it is just the beginning.

    Just wait for your scans and see how your mets responded to your tx.

    YOU HAVE SO MANY CHEMO OPTIONS NOW!

    there were NONE when us old TNs were dx'd. In fact, back then it was called "Estrogen and progesterone negative cancer"  and boy do I wish they still called it that, By calling it TRIPLE NEG it makes it sound like we want to be positive for HER2. No thank you.

    I am going to keep fighting like hell- and I know that you will too. I know what it feels like to hear that you have cancer again and you have to do chemo again. IT SUCKS. But then you remember that you already know how to do this and you are much smarter this time. You will see.

    Wishing you the best in your tx.

    TO EVERYONE- 

    Big POSITIVE hugs to my not-so-negative sistas!

    Love,

    g

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited September 2008

    Hi Slonedeb xxx

    I often think of you...you are very courageous and very positive..you are an inspiration to me in your fight ...I hope I am and can be as positive as you ...there are many triple negatives with good lives even during treatment ...I have not had a day off of work during chemo and have to young boys to care for...I have made a decision to take the good from the bad... love to ALL my bc sisters...it is a pleasure to be here and LIVNGIN IN THE MOMENT with you all xxx 

  • bar62
    bar62 Member Posts: 321
    edited September 2008

    I know I'll keep coming here for positive news. Thanks for this thread..

  • lalala1000
    lalala1000 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2008

    Hi, I was just diagnosed and need some encouragement.  I am terrified.  Thanks.

    ___________________________________________________________________

    Dx 9/24/2008, IDC, Stage ??????, Grade 3, 1 node positive on PET, ER-/PR-, HER2-

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    lalala,

    Welcome to our little group...sorry you had to join us.  But as you see we have some great stories in this area that shows HOPE for you.  I will bump up another thread for you to read, that is labeled "where are all the triple negs" for some more great journeys. 

    I know it is really scary right now...but take a deep breath of air and slow down your zooming mind on all the what if's out there.  First thing you need to learn is take one day at a time for the next few months.  This takes time to learn, but you do get better at it.  Nothing is going to happen so fast that you can't pause for a moment to take it in. 

    I see you were just diagnosed, what is your next step?  Have you seen the a oncologist? Let me recommend you getting some good books on bc so you can learn the language you will be hearing the next few months.  You can go on Amazon.com and do a search...there are many great books out there that about bc without scaring you nuts  Look for ones for newly diagnosed patients.  More knowledge you have, the more empowered you become.

    We are all there for you.  Let us know if we can be of any help.

    You may want to start your own thread in this area, so we can keep up to date with you personally. Pray that you find peace and strength in this stressful time.  You can do this! And come out a stronger person on the other side.

    Flalady

  • jdash
    jdash Member Posts: 754
    edited September 2008

    when i was first dx 12 yrs ago i had no idea what trip neg was  -  i was stage 1 and chemo was never discussed  things have changed so much for us and chemo is our best defense

    i was dx stage 3b over 2 yrs ago and i went at it with all the treatment i could and I am happily dancing with NED!   I agree Gina that trip ned does sound like we want to be positive for something- 

    all us trip neg sisters have to stick together  we are a tough group !!!!  love to you all

    julia

  • lalala1000
    lalala1000 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2008

    Thanks so much for your words of encouragement.  Even though I was only diagnosed 8 days ago, I have had all testing (PET, MUGA, LAB), met with an oncologist, surgeon and am having a port put in Monday and starting Chemo (TAC plus Avastin) sometime next week.  The oncologist is planning 6-8 cycles of chemo, then surgery to remove whats left and maybe radiation after that.

    __________________________________________________________________________________

     Dx. 9/17/2008, IDC, grade 3, Stage II/III, 1 node positive on PET, ER-/PR-, HER2-

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    lalala,

    You doctor's has a good plan.  You are lucky to get Avastin with a early stage diagnoses.  You are also lucky they are moving fast.  So many takes weeks to get started on treatment.

    Keep us up to date with your treatment and how you are doing.

    Flalady

  • Pami
    Pami Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2008

    I've spent the last 4 hours reading all your wonderful messages and this is my 1st post.   Up to now, I've found it very difficult to read anything about cancer.   My ordeal began with my annual physical in 03/08, when it took my dr.'s office 3 months to call me to ask if I'd followed up with her recommendation that I get a second mammo.; except that she overlooked telling that to me at our appt.  Stuff just went downhill from there.

    Although ca. was found in rt. breast only, the gen. surg. highly recommended bi-lateral and although I was having decision-making problems up to then, I felt so much confidence in her that it really wasn't a decision, it was just what I had to do.  My surg. was on 09/15/08.

     I have to say that my spirits remained high until the actual date and time of the surg. was scheduled, then faltered a bit.   I continue to use positive affirmations like a mantra, believing I have some control over my own reality. 

     I won't be starting chemo for weeks.  Not until the surgery heals.  The expanders were put in at mastectomy and after those are removed I will begin chemo.   Won't see the oncologist again 'til 10/06/08.   He said he didn't think I would need rad., but would refer me to a radiology oncologist to discuss it.

    I feel ignorant for the 1st time in my life.   I don't even know what questions to ask.  I thought I would feel better sharing with women who are experiencing this, too, but instead I'm sitting here crying asking why are there so many of us?????

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    Pami,

    I know you must be on a roller coaster right now.  Hang in there and in a few weeks things will settle down.  Let me reword that...you become more numb and don't have so much anixity for a while. As you move forward you will find the way through this dark time.  We all have as you can see, have found our own ways to move through bc. We have good days and bad days all through our journey.  Please understand that first...bc is a journey, it takes a while to get to the other side, but you will be a stronger and a changed person when you get there.  I feel your fear and wish I could hug you and let you know that you can do this. We will never know the why's...your focus how to have a life in the middle of your journey. And than have a big party later to celebrate this battle you won.

    I wish I was home so I could send you the name of some good books I have that will education but not scare you anymore that we have to.   You can also look at different areas on this website that details about understanding your pathology reports, this will help you understand what treatments to expect.

    My first question is did you have someone double check you pathology report.  Very few triple negs are Grade 2, we do have a few, but you have two nodes positive, and that could mean a little more aggressive tumor. (only two nodes is still good news)  Second is did they run a Fish test on your Her2 status to check this.  This is very important that they get this right. The most important thing is getting your pathology report right from the beginning.

    Don't be surprised if things change a little over the next few days.  When other doctor's get involve it can cause more questions to pop up, and more discussion about the best way to move ahead. I have a feeling that the radiologist will want to do rads because of the lymph involvement.  You will also have to do chemo.  You don't need get into the whole chemo discussions just yet, but do read the threads that have been started about tips for getting through chemo so you can start shopping. I tell everyone with bc...information is power.  You don't have to learn this all upfront. You have time to research.  You are in control of your treatment.  If you want to stop or change you have the right.  Just keep moving toward recovery....

    Biggest thing I can tell you right now is find someone who you can talk freely with about all your fears.  (and have a good hard cry!) You will be surprised like many of us who have people come out from everywhere, who want to help in some way.  Let them...they are just wanting to be apart of your journey.  If you need space let your love ones know. Just know this site and the wonderful girls are here for you. Please find some good positive books of survivors, there are many out there.  Try Amazon.com or half.com for listings. 

    If I can be of any help, please feel free to contact me.

    Praying that you have less fear and peaces as the weeks move on.

    Flalady

  • nosurrender
    nosurrender Member Posts: 2,019
    edited September 2008

    Hi there!

    First, Lala you are getting the cutting edge chemo for TN. Please remember that chemo works better on TN than on ER+ cancer and you have every reason to be hopeful! I have some tips about starting chemo in this month's Mamm, http://www.mamm.com/highlights.php?&qbackid=48860ba10a26dd3d_68134&qbacktitl=Current%20Issue&seq=1&qpage=2

     And I have other chemo tips on my site which you can access thru the link on the bottom of the page.

    The port is a God send and you will be happy to have it once it is in!

    Pami - this is the WORST time. Once you get your plan inplace and in the routine of treatment, you will feel much more in control. I am wondering about your getting your expanders out before treatment... I had to keep mine in until I was done with everything. If you are going to need rads it is better that you keep them in until you are done. Breastreconstruction.org can help you with the technicals about that. For me, they over-expanded the side that had to be radiated in order to compensate for any shrinkage post-rads.

    Now about feeling "ignorant"- nope! You aren't. We get diagnosed and then lickety split we are supposed to suddenly know doctor speak and have an MD. You have us. We can explain everything to you. On the job training is what got us where we are today! So please post any questions or PM me if you need to talk.

     We are NEGS- we are STRONG- We KICK BUTT!

    Love to all,

    g

  • pattypoo53
    pattypoo53 Member Posts: 46
    edited September 2008

    Pami,

    Hang in there this is the worst time. Once you get all your treatment in place and know what to expect it will get better. I was diagnosed in Dec 03 stage II IDC triple negative, did 6 months of chemo, and rads, and I will be 5 years out in Dec 08, I am still doing great. Just wanted to let you know there is hope!! I spent alot of time crying at the computer also, I know how you feel. This diagnoses throws you into a tail spin. I still struggle with wanting control, but I am trying to let go of that. This is a journey that will change your life, but you will get through it. There are some wonderful people on this board (Gina, Florida Lady, and many more who are very knowledgeble, and will offer reliable information. I know how lost and alone I felt when I was first diagnosed, this board gave me so much support. Keep coming back!! Gina also has a wonderful website for breast cancer support.

    Hugs

    Patty

  • Roya
    Roya Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2008

    Patty,

    Thank you for your encouragement.

    Roya

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited October 2008

    I am new to this site. Just diagonosed with TN, Grade 3, 1 cm. I am completely depressed.

    I need some help ! I am crying and cannot sleep for nights.... But I saw TN respond better to Chemo than the others. Is it true?

    Pls help.

    Newalex

  • majjers
    majjers Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2008

    I'm right in there with ya, my triple neg sisters!  We are a bunch of stubborn, fighting bi-otches because we have to be.  My voice will be raised as well to fight for more research, more trials, more EVERYTHING to understand triple negs and get us a better treatment to prevent recurrence.  I am a little over a year out and find the survivor mentality is alot harder than the patient mentality.  Every little ache, bump, lump, etc. can get your mind spinning but I always try to center on the fact that my cancer was caught early,  we treated aggressively, I need to keep doing everything I know to do and just LIVE. 

    Strength to all of you,

    Traci

  • lalala1000
    lalala1000 Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2008

    GOOD NEWS!  I have had 1 chemo treatment of ACT and my one lymph node that was 4.1cm is down by 90%.  The chemo does work on us, ladies.

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited October 2008

    lalala

    Thats brilliant.... it is soooooooooo good to hear this ... thankyou !!!!!!! amazing X

    Keep on going x xx x   Laughing Kiss

  • KPolasek
    KPolasek Member Posts: 184
    edited October 2008

    Hey majjers,

    My diagnosis is the same as yours. 

    And lalala ... wonderful news!

    Blessings,

    K

  • majjers
    majjers Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2008

    Hi KPolasek,

    Wow, you aren't kidding.  I take it you are all done with treatments now and NED?

    Do you agree about the survivor mentality?  I am getting MRI's every 6 months now.  Getting my port out in November....can't wait.

    Take it easy,

    T

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited October 2008

    I did not do chemo prior the surgery. I cannot know how i respond to chemo. I am really worried about it.

    I heard from doctor saying that TN has a 20% recurrence chance after the chemo, even. Is it true? I hate to see that but maybe sometimes chemo can kill 100% and no recurrence. Most of people 80% have no recurrence though. Right? So most of us will live.

  • pennylane
    pennylane Member Posts: 177
    edited October 2008

    Hi Newalex,  I am 3-years out from dx: triple neg...1.7cm; grade 3; node neg....If it helps I will tell you, my Dr. gave me odds of 87-90% of no reoccurance after 4 AC..I think our numbers are similar, and perhaps yours sound a bit better.  I remember seeking reassurance that I would live...I would read and read online and I would seek out the words of BC survivors.  I could not eat and my best friend was my futon.  I cried way too much.  Finally took the anti-depressant Lexapro which took care of that crying business which I really hated.  Perhaps an anti-depressant would help you too right now.  Give you some of your power back.  Oh boy, I sure do remember how helpless I felt, having to hand over my life to medical personnel...it was all so bleak and humbling....My dear Alex, please believe us when we tell you chances are so very good that you are going to make it and not have a reoccurance.  You are early stage...There are so many triple neg survivors doing so very well...don't believe some quick articles you may read about this type of bc.  We just do better with time....You will see.  It won't be long before you are done with treatment and eating again and laughing again and completely in your life again...Very best wishes, P

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited October 2008

    Hi Pennylane

    Did you do AC only or also followed by Taxol or Taxera? (Is Taxol and Taxera the same thing?)

    When you doctor said you would have 87% to 90% NO Recurrence, after AC, that was a good number. Do you know a lot of TN survived many years? From this board, there are many sisters have recurrence. So does this mean, majority of TN would have recurrence ? I get a bit scared reading posts from other sisters who are having recurrences.

  • Dragonfli
    Dragonfli Member Posts: 50
    edited October 2008

    Hi No Surrender & other triple negative sisters.

    This past Friday I reached my 5 year NED, Oct 17,2003 was my surgery date. Iam not on here  awholelot, but think it's important to touch baseback at the place that was instrumental in my healing process through and after breast cancer treatment.

    I did the FEC protocal with some Neupogen shots to keep me on track as well as 16radiation treatments as I went for a re-excision after chemo, so less rads were needed.

    I feel good, and would like to tell others, that us triple negatives are kicking butt and we're improving those survival stats all the time!!...Hey I am now one of those women part of the "5 years survival" stats. I also chose a lumpectomy and had positive lymph nodes.

    Hugs to all on this journey!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2008

    There is no "bad" or "good" cancer.  Ten years ago, at age of 34, I was diagnosed breast cancer Stage II, 4/16 node positive, Triple-Neg.  I chose mastectomy.   After completed rounds of chemo and radiation treatments, my oncologist told me to come back every six month for a follow-up.   "Nothing else? I heard some patients need a 5-years medicine after. " I asked.  "Not for you.  These medicines have very little benefit for you but more side effects."   Until then, I knew what tri-negative means -- less treatment choice, also less side effects of those additional treatment.  Good or not! 

    What have I done to maintain my health?  Have healthy diet, more vegetable and fiber.  Work part-time instead of full-time, to reduce the stress.  Although the surgeries and treatments leave my arm lymphedema, one arm is twice the size as the other.  I still try to do my best, as normal living, and leave the problems to God.  I join some fun activities such as Yoga, handcraft, painting and ceramic.   Friends and relatives' encouraged also kept supporting me. 

    The last visit last year, before left the office, my oncologist said: "I have seen you for ten years.  I don't want to see you any more..."  I was almost jumped up! 

    Look at both sides of everything.  Sisters, be brave, be optimistic!

  • Raye99
    Raye99 Member Posts: 1,350
    edited October 2008

    Hi G and All,

    Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for just being here. It is good to read the stories and know I am not alone. 

    We are in this together. 

     Raye 

  • tibet
    tibet Member Posts: 545
    edited October 2008

    Dandelionou,

    you are 10 yrs ned and that must feel great. what kind of chemo did you take? We need more people like you to come to this board and provide encouraging news to all of us newly diagnosed. Do you know many other TN that live many many yrs after the treatment?

    How did you manage the first 3 years?

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited October 2008

    newalex,

    I will bump up the thread "Where are all the TN" and you will see many good stories.

    Remember triple neg is a generic term used for breast cancer that is not hormone or Her2.  We each could have a different disease so their is no true and tried treatment yet until they can break us down in sub categories.

    Flalady

  • Maryiz
    Maryiz Member Posts: 975
    edited October 2008
    Newalex, the good thing about TN is that after  years of being cancer free there is less chance of recurrence, whereas ER positive can come back long time after.  This is just a general stat, and as FLoridaLady said, we are all different, but hang in, you will do well. Maryiz

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