BRCA1 mutation

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blueidblonde
blueidblonde Member Posts: 1

I just got word from my oncologist yesterday that i do in fact carry the BRCA1 mutation, putting me at increased risk for another breast cancer and/or ovarian cancer.  Yell

I am 38, and am 4 1/2 years past my chemo (TAC/6 rounds/every 3 weeks).  I had a right-side mastectomy w/removal of 7 lymph nodes (all negative).  I had a 1.7 cm triple neg tumor in my right breast that was diagnosed 9 months after the birth of my 2nd child when I was 32 yrs old.

Now my medical oncologist wants me to have my left breast removed and reconstructed, and he wants me to have my ovaries removed. 

Cry I don't want to do that!  Cry

What do you all think?  Any similar experiences?  Any/all commentary and opinion is appreciated.  I would especially like to hear from ladies who have lost their ovaries/fallopian tubes prior to menopause.  I had a hysterectomy about 3 years ago that removed my uterus and cervix, but still have my ovaries at this time.  My onco has also made it clear that hormone replacement therapy is out of the question.

Thanks for your time

Have a Namaste!

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  • Methusala
    Methusala Member Posts: 285
    edited September 2008

    Wow I could have written this post.

    I am brca1 and trip ;neg.  "They" want me to have a hysterectomy asap.  I am ONLY 38..

    I went through chemopause it was horrible.. OH MY WORD.. I said never again.

    Now, a hyster will put me right back there.

     No one in all of Roswell had mentioned removing my other breast tho'.

    I know we're increased for ovarian, but a breast recurrence? I guess I just don't know enough.  

    I don't know what to do either.  I was going to post something similar.  I hope lots of people will respond.  I"m really scared, too.  I don't know what to think.

    My youngest is 6. 

    Namaste.

  • LisaSDCA
    LisaSDCA Member Posts: 2,230
    edited September 2008

    I don't think anyone welcomes the news that they need to have bilateral mastectomies and ooph surgery. But it can save your life. There are several women posting in the mets forum who can testify to the advisability of treating this risk aggressively.

    Learn more about your BRCA status by reading the FORCE site:

    http://www.facingourrisk.org/

    Lisa (BRCA1+)

    ps - blueidblonde, congrats on being 4+ years out!

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited September 2008

    Blueidblonde, the risk of HRT may be overblown, take a look at this just-published research piece:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080923164544.htm

     In this study, there were fewer cancers in BRCA1 women with HRT than in those without! It comes with an editorial which cautions against prescribing hormone replacement to everybody, like, let's collect much more data ... but it is hard to continue to believe that HRT after surgical menopause in BRCA1+ women is really dangerous.

  • lilith
    lilith Member Posts: 543
    edited September 2008

    It is a very personal decision...

    The way I look at it, is that with an hysterectomy done, you aren't planning to have more children. In that light - taking out the ovaries is quite a large risk management step, especially as monitoring the ovaries for cancer is almost impossible (it is usually discovered only too late, after it has spread), because it has no symptoms and isn't visible on ultrasounds. So if you don't do it, the risk is pretty high.

    On the other hand, if you do it, you may have menopause symptoms... but you will have them sooner or later, anyway. This is sooner, yes - but after a bit of time it will all have boiled down, and it will increase your chances to go through a peaceful and long life...

    Just my 2 cents.

  • Elliemae32
    Elliemae32 Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2008

    If you are estrogen negative why is estrogen replacement out of the question? 

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited September 2008

    It sounds like the jury is still out (according to the editorial), but I'm just guessing - would they be concerned about estrogen stimulation for a potential future, 2nd primary?

  • BMac
    BMac Member Posts: 650
    edited October 2008

    I've had ovarian and breast cancer.  I was attending a high risk ovarian cancer clinic when the ovca was found.  I was going there because my sister got BC in 1992 and my mother OC in 94.  Unfortunately for me the genetic testing wasn't done until AFTER I was diagnosed.  Both of my sisters had hysterectomies.  I was already in menopause when I had mine in 2002 so I can't help you there.

    I then went to a hight risk BC clinic and, although it was mentioned, no one really pushed me to have a bilat mast.  I sure wish they had because 5 years after my OC diagnosis I was diagnosed with BC.  A hysterectomy & ooph and bilat mast would have saved me from all this and I wish I had been told this was the way to go.  I was 49 when I got OV and 54 when I got BC so I'm older than you.

  • Scifantasy1017
    Scifantasy1017 Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2008

    Hi there, I am new to this site.  I am 40 with two boys (10 & 7).  Live in Canada.  I was diagnosed with breast cancer at the end of March 2008.  At that time I was going to have a lumpectomy but 1 week before my surgery I found out that I was BRCA1 positive.  Unfortunately it took six months for a diagnosis of DCIS stage 3 by biopsy as the lesion presented atypically.   I was sort of lucky that the ultrasound technician thought she saw something because the next 3 attempted ultrasound guided biopsies couldn't find it.  Took MRI to find it and then finally MRI biopsy.  So, because of this I decided to change my surgery from lumpectomy to mastectomy. I had the surgery in April this year. I have gone through chemo (AC/T) and no rads.  The chemo has already put me in menopause (oh joy! Undecided). 

     I have decided that I really don't want to go through with chemo again if I can help it, so I have decided to have prophylactic surgeries done (hysterectomy/oophorectomy and right sided mastectomy with reconstruction.  I know that this will not guarantee a recurrence but it will lessen the chances!@!  

     I am also triple negative so have been advised against the use of the hormone treatments.  From what I understand it is because the hormone will actually encourage the breast cancer to occur.

    My mother had a radical bilateral mastectomy when she was 31 (about 35 years ago).  At that time they didn't have chemo, just radiation.  She had a recurrence 2 years ago in her right axilla.  She has gone through chemo again and is now free.  She never had follow up checks after the mastectomy, no U/S and she didn't check herself until she found the large lump in her axilla.

     Even though there is a chance of recurrence, I have come to the conclusion that for me this is the right decision. It has taken a lot of soul searching to make my decision and I am still not sure it is the best, but whatever I can do to make sure I am around for my kids, I am going to do it no matter what!

    Good luck with your own decision.  Hope this helps.

  • Methusala
    Methusala Member Posts: 285
    edited October 2008

    some of you need to understand that MOST of us triple negs have been greatly advised NOT TO EVER EVER TAKE HRT of ANY kind.  ALL estrogen is off limits.  Suggesting to take this or something like it is totally contradictory to what our physicians are telling us.

  • tangerine2
    tangerine2 Member Posts: 3
    edited October 2008

    this is my first post. i am a nervous wreck and i would appreciate any help. i was diagnosed with stage 0 dcis in sept and then after an mri it was changed to idc in october. i'm now stage 1 but i have not had excisional surgery yet. i'm 49 and my 51 year old sister was diagnosed with stage 3 in august. she is undergoing chemo and has opted for a bilateral mastectomy. i also have 3 aunts with bc so i decided to test for the brca mutation and i am waiting for the results. should i go ahead with the lumpectomy now or wait for the results and go with the bilateral? i'm also considering a bilateral even if it's negative because i don't think i could go through with another positive bc diagnosis in 2 years. help!!

  • cdsouza
    cdsouza Member Posts: 10
    edited October 2008

    Hi....I am 38 and BRCA1+. I have 4 kids ages 1-9. I am scheduling an ooferectomy and bilateral mastectomy for January. I have never had cancer. There are so many of us out there that have done what you are afraid to do....it is not an easy decision. But do go to facingourrisk.org. We have all been there in one way or another.

  • chenieb
    chenieb Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2008

    I am 45 years old - BRCA1 positive.  Mother died of bc at 38 years of age, Sister diagnosed in October of 2007 invasive ductal carcinoma.  When I heard my sister had bc, I opted for both oopherectomy  (had this in january of '08) and double prophylactic mastectomies (may '08).  I had breast reconstruction and just recently had my nipples created.  I will go in about 3 weeks to have my areola's tattooed.  As far as menopause goes - yes, there are some symptoms - the biggest one for me is the loss of interest in sex - However, I am alive and my husband and I love each other very much and there are many ways to be sexual with each other.  My mother is not here to see her grandchildren grow up.  I want to be here to see mine.  I want to be here for my children.  Everyday that goes by, I get stronger and healthier and know I made the right choice.

  • Marlina
    Marlina Member Posts: 33
    edited October 2008

    I'm BRCA1 positive too, diagnosed with idc stage 3, grade 3 tumor, hormone receptors negative in 2004 when I was 28 and still single. Completed treatment in 2005, got married a few months later and gave birth in 2006. Now I'm 5 weeks pregnant with my second child. My sister had idc too, and an aunt passed away from breast cancer in 2005. My grandma had ovarian cancer and passed away in 2006. The mutation was passed down from my father and I was told there's a 50% chance of the mutation being passed down to my children. In my country, in south-east asia, no doctor would ever recommend bilateral mastec or removal of ovaries just because you are BRCA1 positive. But it does cross my mind though, now that I have my children to think of. Insurance will not pay, definitely. And I'm not sure  could find a surgeon who would do it. Is it really definite that if you carry the mutation you will eventually get breast or ovarian cancers?

  • Elora
    Elora Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2008

    I'm a Canadian, BRCA2, ER+ and a 10-year breast cancer survivor who went into surgical menopause at age 41.  I was outright refused hormone replacement, even a weaning off amount, and for me the longterm ramifications have been pronounced.  It took me two years of verbally challenging my onc to give me some form of HRT, especially to ease my memory and energy issues (flat adrenals that have long been overcompensating for estrogen/progesterone deficiencies).  I tried a couple of different kinds of estrogen (Estrogel pump and Climara patch) but found them to be of limited help.  I suspect it's because they're a general hormone fix versus and blood tested, true balancing match (and lacked the tempering and complementary effects of progesterone).

    The equation for figuring out one's best treatment plan is complicated.  We have similarities and yet we also have complex differences.  It's not an easy road to negotiate at times.  I have one BRCA friend who had five top-notch oncologists give her five quite different modes of treatment for her advanced ovarian cancer.  Fortunately, the method she chose put her into remission.  At least one other would have been the end of her.  I have another good BRCA1 friend here in Vancouver who was diagnosed at 32 with Stage 1 breast cancer and 12 years later, while still having both her breasts and ovaries, is thriving.  That is, on her full load of normal estrogen/progesterone.  She also had a child during that time.  I'm in awe of this as I think she has beaten sizeable odds, but am not sure I could live with that risk level but she can and does.

    For me, along with having undertaken significant exercise and diet changes (no sugar, exenoestrogens etc), with the memory difficulties and adrenal challenges I've had, I have decided to go the route of bio-identical estrogen and progesterone.  This includes careful bloodwork testing, and low dose hormone balancing.  This is actually protective against, an even greater killer than breast cancer, heart disease.  And there are other protective qualities to nominal BHRT which are just beginning to come to light and this includes an element of protection against breast cancer for some.

    I do understand that there is a greater risk of ovarian cancer with BRCA1 than my BRCA2 but something I had to factor in to my prophylactic decision making was that my paternal grandmother died of ovarian cancer at age 34 and her daughter was diagnosed with the same at age 36.  My maternal grandmother died of ovarian cancer at age 51 and her sister from the same at age 56 just nine months prior.  I was pretty fearful of ovarian cancer but, in retrospect, for me, I would still have taken nominal BHRT at the time of my oophorectomy and continued until at least menopause, along with my continued healthy diet and exercise, if I'd only been given the chance.  I have finally been able to slowly but surely make mine, and hope I can reverse some of the consequences of longterm (protective) hormone deficiency.

    (Marlina, the percentage of getting these cancers is definitely higher with BRCA+, but no it is not a 100% certainty.)

  • Elora
    Elora Member Posts: 6
    edited October 2008

    blueidblonde, I sincerely hope you speak with a registered genetic counsellor about your options and am surprised your BRCA status was delivered by an oncologist.  With due respect, this is not their area of expertise.  They have a vested interest in keeping you alive via their specialization and will generally, and somewhat understandably, protect that position.  A well-trained genetic counsellor should be level-headed, unbiased and be able to outline all the options suitable to your full familial and medical dynamics.  I wish you the very best in finding out what fits best for you.   

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