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  • g94u67
    g94u67 Member Posts: 436
    edited September 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm tired and grouchy but can't sleep. Kind of irritated w/the family now. Just because I'm not frail and feeble looking they think I'm still able to handle everything! Ugh. Had Back to School Night, chores, homework and made dinner 3 X's this week.I was pooped and still am. DH forgot to pick up our son today and was 1/2 hour late. AND My nails are also turning purple. Ewww.

    Enough of me venting.. So happy for you Bettylou and your upcoming wedding.  Sounds like you've met a wonderful guy. 

    LaShon:  So nice to hear from you too!  Hope you're feeling better. I know what you mean about the "dirt taste"  I barely got my taste buds back.

    Corrine:  That is truly sad to hear about the young women you've encountered.  I met a young lady one year older than me w/Stage IV and she is so frightened.  I've been praying for her too.

    Roya:  Congratulations on finishing your final round of A/C! 

    Stacy:  Have a great time in the Big Apple.  I've been dying to go.

    Deanna & Corrine: You look great in your wigs.  I've received nice compliments too. Today the man @ the Smog check told me he could only assist me "because I was beautiful" How about that? If he only knew..

     Have a great SE free weekend all,

    Jeannine Kiss

  • Corinne6
    Corinne6 Member Posts: 311
    edited September 2008

    Hi everyone, Just checking in. Had bone pain this week!! Ugh!! I took tylenol but it certainly does not touch it. Anyhow, my daughter is getting married on Sat. of next week so I'm cleaning my house today for all the influx of company. I feel great today. I am even going to ride my horse that I have not paid attention to for 2 weeks. I am going to the Big E on Monday and Tues.. Yahoo!!! That is a humungous fair that we have once a year up north.  It takes a day or two to go through all the stuff because there is just so much.  I am giving my kids 2 days off from school. I homeschool so I have the liberty to do that. I am going to cheat for 1 of the days on my diet. That Big E cream puff and sweet potatoe fries are calling me. Yummmmm!!! I have saved up for this all year. If anyone cares to you can google the Big E and read all about it.

    BetteLou/ What did Tom say when he noticed that day that you shaved your head? for the first time yesterday I showed my husband. Wrong thing to do for me. He is upset knowing not that I am thinning but that I am having a tough time with the thinning so tht makes me a little more upset that he is upset!! He cares so much about me and wants to take all of my pain and shelter me. I love him so much for taking such great care for me. I am indeed a very lucky lady!! 

    lashon, glad you mad it through #3.  Hope your gaining your strength.

    Deanna/ you look great. Your wig is definitely a complement.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend. Talk to you all later!1

    Corinne

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    Jeannine... You may have to have some heart-to-heart communication with your family, and explain to them how exhausted you sometimes feel, even though they can't see it.  As mothers, we're all used to being the caregivers, and this is one time we really have to force ourselves to step back and let others do for us.  Feel free to vent away here -- we totally understand!  But, I also think you need to recognize that your #1 priority for you and your family is getting well, and overdoing it and feeling resentful aren't good for you.

    Corinne... I am absolutely amazed at what you are planning for the week!  Without going back through several pages to see where you are in your tx's, are you sure it's not a steroid high that's talking?  Your planned schedule sounds a bit overwhelming just reading it!   I hope you can maintain the energy to enjoy it all, especially your daughter's wedding.

    Thinking of you all ~  Deanna

  • Monique
    Monique Member Posts: 121
    edited September 2008

    Jeannine - I feel the same way about the fatigue issue.  For me, mentally it is important that I try and do everything I can like I normally do. I am prone to depression and not working has made me nervous about falling into that while doing chemo.  But, like you because I am not frail and sickly looking my family (especially DH) doesn't understand that sometimes I'm just TIRED!  I agree with Deanna (even though I have not done that myself), I think we should tell our family just how we are feeling.  We need to think of our health first and resting is very important in this part of our battle (from what I hear).

    Corinne - sounds like you will have a very busy week!  Take care of yourself.  Congratulations on your daughter's wedding.

    Deirdre - I haven't worn my wig yet but every time I try it on I start sweating - UGH!  I hope when it's time for me to go back to work I can stand it because I really need to wear it to work.  My husband made a comment about - why did I but it if I'm not going to wear it.  I'm not really sure how to take that comment?

    Hood - how are  you feeling?  Did you get to go to the Look Good Feel Better program ?   I was going to one last week, but it got canceled.  It has been beautiful weather in our part of the country hasn't it J.  I don't know how you can work during this treatment.  I can't even think straight most of the time.  Do you work everyday?

    Bette - my nose has been running like a faucet too!  That's a good point about the hairs falling out having something to do with it, your probably right!  My nose is getting raw from wiping it all the time.

    Lashon - hope you are feeling good today! 

    I hope everyone is having a good weekend Cool

    Monique

  • Hood1980
    Hood1980 Member Posts: 537
    edited September 2008

    Hi Everyone!  This is Day 5 for me following tx#3 of TC and SEs seem just like dlb823!  I did drink lots more H2O this time and my mouth is fine.  I have been more nauseous but have  decided to take the additional meds for it which I hadn't done before. 

    Monique the Look Good Feel Better program was OK since I got a free bag of cosmetics with  some that I will actually use!  It was a little disappointing in that the lady that does the wigs wasn't there and we would have to come back again to meet with her.  I doubt seriously I'll do that.  I have a wig already that I don't like wearing.  But it was good to get out and meet people.  The Pink Ladies were recruiting.  October is breast cancer awareness month and they are having special events locally and invited me to attend. I work every day that I can but Friday I was too tired to go in.

    MamaKaren-I'm still thinking about you!  Hope all is well!  I'm going with my daughter to a Bridal Show this evening!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Corinne, When I showed Tom my head, he said it was the right thing to do, then tenderly stroked and kissed my head. Before he left, he helped me clean up the hair mess:vacuuming trash, laundry. I feel very accepted and cared for right now. And he still says I am beautiful.

    My DD and I went scarf and hat shopping. I have attached a picture with one of my new looks. I do not enjoy wearing the wig, although I did wear it to church today and got a lot of compliments. A few people just thought I had gotten a new cut and color!.

    I am feeling Ok coming up to Tx  # 3 on Wednesday. Just need a daily nap and have an off taste in my mouth. It is so freeing to have the hair thing over. I really like my new scarves and hats!

    Bette 

  • g94u67
    g94u67 Member Posts: 436
    edited September 2008

    Thanks Monique & Deanna. I let EVERYONE in the house know to get off their tails and help! I do have this inclination to overdo things to the point of exhaustion.  I have to force myself to take my mini-breaks and rest. I also have to overlook the chores that don't need immediate attention.

    We went to the L.A. County Fair yesterday and had a blast.  Wore my wig w/out the wig cap. (Feels much better). Don't think anyone noticed. Was worried it might fly off though. Ate too much and I'm pooped today. Just taking it easy.

    Bettelou: You look marvelous!  I love the color.  I have some pretty scarves too.  Now I want to experiment w/ some hats and falls for the winter.

    Monique: My hubby said the same thing and they don't understand how hot we get in the wig. (Not to mention the hot flashes ) Have you tried wearing it w/out a cap? It's a lot cooler. I pin mine to the little hairs I have left.  Don't use double sided tape.  Ouch!

    Take care everyone,

    Jeannine

  • alibug05
    alibug05 Member Posts: 182
    edited September 2008

    Hey ladies - well I survived #3 with only 1 more to go - thank goodness - felt ok Friday and Saturday didn't do much but still felt ok - yesterday however I thought I might die.  Nausea set in and I felt like I couldn't move off the couch.  I took my medicine even though I hate it but I needed so I didn't hesitate this time!!!! Feel alittle bit better today but not much - I am going to try to work some today, and I have a volleyball game to go to and then home.  Hope everyone is doing good!!!!  Loves!

  • Roya
    Roya Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2008

    I'm soooooo glad to be done with A/C. I got sick just thinking about getting it and when the nurse brought it in to hook up, I vomited just from looking at it!  I can't stand the taste that I get in my mouth when they flush the port either.  OMG  I hope Taxol is easier to tolerate. Frown!!!!!!!  Thank God I am half way through with these chemicals!!   Alibug, I was together with you on the nausea over the weekend.  We will get through this!  

    Jeanine, good for  you!...Everyone in the household should help.  I agree that we should take care of ourselves as best we can......and we can only do so much under these circumstances.  After you have gotten through all of this, they will have become accustomed to helping out more and should  continue to do so.  Laughing

    Bette, I luv that scarf that you are wearing.

    Best wishes all,

    Roya

  • mommy3abm
    mommy3abm Member Posts: 221
    edited September 2008

    Hi everyone!  Just a quick note before I dash off for Neulasta.  Had Tx #3 yesterday after returning from NYC on Sunday.  I am really exhausted, but it was worth every minute!!  It was the best trip we have ever taken!  I tell all about it later as I can't post pics because my memory card crashed and we lost every single one!

    HUGS TO ALL!!

    Stacy

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    Stacy... Glad to see you're back safely and have tx #3 down!  That's a shame about your photos.  Darn!

    Jeannine... Did your family take your pleas to heart and start pitching in more?  Hope so!

    Roya...  Well, I guess your onc's office knows what you think of their chemo!  I hope I don't do the same next time; the image you painted was very strong, and I have been super queasy this whole time after tx #3.  I really hope your SE's are better this time.  Interestingly, I read on the TC board that in Europe, if you don't have severe SE's, they up your dose, thinking you need more to be effective.  Don't know if you've heard that, but I thought of you when I read it, and wondered if you might be getting a higher dose there.

    Bette...  I like you in a scarf!  Maybe looks more youthful than the wig (?), although I know these little photos don't totally capture our true selves.

    Alibug... Hope you're feeling better.   Tonya, Monique, Lashon, Gail... How're you all doing?  Joyce... Are you also more nauseous this time than previously?  Just curious b'cuz our other SE's seemed to parallel one another.   Peaches... Where are you???   Impossible to address everyone individually, but thinking of you all ~    Deanna 
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Thanks for the good reviews on the scarf!

    I am sitting here in this stuffy wig with my runny nose, just trying to get through the day.

    Tomorrow is AC Tx # 3. I may not be working the rest of the week as my SE's seem to get worse each time. But as long as the tumor keeps shrinking, I'm still in the game!

    Bette

  • alibug05
    alibug05 Member Posts: 182
    edited September 2008

    Hi all - feeling a little bit better but still not as good as I felt on tx#2.  That really sucks - I was kinda spoiling myself on only feeling crappy for a couple of days - now with this tx #3 it stinks!!!!! Stacy I am sooooooo glad you had a great time - Bettelou68 I am with you - even with the se's getting worse I am still in the game - so we will keep moving ahead.  Roya I hate that you didn't feel well all weekend either and even though I still feel a little sick I will keep shoving on.  g94u67 if my family hadn't been helping all this time I would have CRASHED and BURNED!!!  LOL  My husband works swingswift so he can only do so much but he has been a TOTAL champ!!!!  My kids who are only 13 and 10 have been champs too - they know when I don't feel good and immediately know not to ask me for ANYTHING!!!! LOL  They go ask their dad!!!!  LOL  But when he can't help they don't complain at all and just roll with it - as a matter of fact I am going to give them BOTH big hugs and kisses tonight and tell them how proud I am of them!!!!!!! Thanks for the reminder!!!!  dlb823  when are you up for your next one??/ Hope we haven't scared you with all of our #3 side effects!!!!!!  Loves to all!!!

  • Hood1980
    Hood1980 Member Posts: 537
    edited September 2008

    Hi Deanna & all -   Treatment #3 wasn't so bad for me.  The onc said, "TAKE the extra meds!  That's why I gave them to you!  Stop suffering with the nausea!"  So I did.  That & LOTS of water!    Only one more tx to go!  Yippee!  We can do this together August Hot Baldies! 

  • Misty1
    Misty1 Member Posts: 272
    edited September 2008

    Good Morning Girls,

    Just checking in with everyone.  Wow-it seems like many of us have now gotten past #3.  I think I see October just around the corner.  That should make us all feel like time is going by now.

    Stacy-thinking about you all weekend with your trip-I know you had great weather.  Glad Monday is over for you.  What is the update on the size?  How many more treatments will you do before surgery?

    Hood and Alibug-Way to go for finishing #3. 

    BetteLou-you look GREAT in your picture.  Congrats on the wedding plans.

    Roya-good for you-getting through what sounds like the worst part of your TX.

    To all others, have a great day!!

    I am starting to see an end in sight.  I go for #4 (last) TCH next Tuesday.  Then, I will just continue with Herceptin.  I saw my PS the other day for another fill.  He said I could probably get the implant exchange surgery done before T'Giving!!  Woo-hoo.  This will give me time to recover and "settle in " before my DH and I take a trip at the end of January.  My tastes are about 80% back-I keep thinking a month from now, I will enjoy food again.  Can't wait!!

    ~Misty

  • Corinne6
    Corinne6 Member Posts: 311
    edited September 2008

    Hi everyone, what a great week this has been.  Monday and Tuesday I went to the Big E and had a blast. i bought a vita- mixer for better health nutrition and was given the book Beating cancer with Nutrition. That book has alot of great things about how to get our bodies on the right path nutrionally to beat cancer and make it not come back again. I am showing it to my doctor today to see what she thinks of it. Going for blood counts today but I feel GREAT. I feel so energetic. I had my last treatment on 9/15 and my nest is in a week and a half. I have been really trying to eat healthy and I think it is working!!!  My daughters wedding is this Saturday and it is going to rain, rain, rain.  oh, well I sense a BIG  story for the future about what went wrong coming.

    Bettelou/ what an awesome scarf. You definitely have the face for it!! What a sweet and loving fiance. Hang on to that one and don't let him go.

    For all of you that just finished #3. I am sooooo happy for you and excited that I will be there in nearly 1 week and a half too. To be 1/2 way through....???

    mommy3/ I am so happy that you enjoyed your trip to NYC. it is great to have such joys in our lives.

    Got to run to the doctors. Will check later

    -Corinne

  • Roya
    Roya Member Posts: 346
    edited September 2008
    Corinne, is a vitamin mixer the same as a juicer?
  • DFOnt
    DFOnt Member Posts: 145
    edited September 2008

    Vita-mix is a brand of heavy duty blender.  I have one too but haven't used it much, what are you making in it?!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Tx # 3 is behind me. I was feeling pretty crappy as I was getting my Cytoxan and had to stay for awhile a get checked out. Have done nothing today, and I had brought home a pile of work.

    My port did not work today! I have to go get it checked out tomorrow. Bummer. My hand hurts from where they infused the AC through an IV.

    Don't know if I will be able to work tomorrow or what the repercussions will be from not getting the work done . I may not be in this job much longer. I have missed so much time with my BC. They need people who can produce, and I am just taking up space. I talked with a social worker today about financial options if I am let go.

    I guess I am sort of down tonight. 

    Bette 

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    (((Hugs))) to you, Bette.  I can understand why you're feeling down, but just think -- you have 3 treatments behind you!!!  You're getting through this, which is the most important thing.  I just picked up a card today for someone who has also been dx'd with a serious illness.  It says, "God never leads us down a road we don't belong on."  I firmly believe that.  It may seem overwhelming at the moment, but you'll see, good things will come from this journey.  If your employer is so callous as to let you go, maybe you'll find work you enjoy more. Please try not to worry.  And feel free to PM me if you want to talk off the board.   Deanna 

  • MamaShift
    MamaShift Member Posts: 70
    edited September 2008

    Sorry BetteLou.  If I could get fired as a mother, well...

    I was super sick yesterday.  Strange since my tx was last Tue.  Today it's just the usual fatigue, runny nose, never-ending diarrhea and sore throat.  This sore throat keeps showing up the second week after tx, then disappears by the time the next tx comes up.  But tonight it feels deeper and I had quite a hard time swallowing my food. I suppose I should call the hotline.  Why don't I do that, I wonder.

    Well, tx #5 on Tuesday!  Can't wait.  Har.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    Hi, all ~  Bette, I hope things are looking a bit brighter today.  Let us know how you're doing.  I wondered after reading your comments yesterday if it might be a good idea to talk to your boss about your situation.  Perhaps it would be easier for him (or her) to work with you if they understood that the fatique you're exeriencing is temporary, and you will be finished with tx in just a few weeks. Also, your lack of production may feel worse to you than it does to them, and talking to them may alleve some of your worries.  Just an idea...

    I wanted to share another couple of quick things...  For some odd reason, I seem to have rebounded from tx #3 much stronger than previous ones.  The one thing I'm doing differently is something I read about on the TC board -- taking B6.  Someone had posted that it was helpful for neuropathy, which I thought I was starting to get in my little toes.  But my overall energy level is so remarkably better, I thought I'd mention it in case anyone else wants to try it.

    Lastly, for what it's worth, I wore an Anokhi scarf yesterday, and got so many compliments on it that I ordered two more this a.m.  The wig is fine some days, but the scarf just feels better -- more authentic... not so much like I'm trying to pretend everything is fine.  Oh... one reason I started off the day in the scarf is I had a healing massage with a woman who practices Chinese medicine, and I didn't want to walk in there looking all perky in my blond wig.  Anyway, if you can find someone who practices healing massage to renew your energy, I highly recommend it.  This was something offered at our local hospital.

    That sore throat sounds so painful, MamaShift.  Hope you were able to get something to help it. Deanna

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Still feeling ill today. Started the day at the hospital to have my port checked out. It worked fine for them! Came home and tried to work, but my head is swimming, can't focus. All I seem to do is stay in bed moaning, Went to the clinic for my Neulasta shot and they kept me awhile because I looked so bad. Consulted my onc, and she said it was the cumulative effects of the chemo. It caught up with me on #3. Don't know about work tomorrow. Will see how my night goes and take it from there.

    I guess my coworkers will have to help out. when I called my boss, I told her I felt bad that I couldn't help , it being the end of the quarter with tons to get done by Saturday. She told me , "Bette, you didn't ask for this." so maybe she understands a little.

    Back to bed.

    Bette 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    hi ladies.. well i seen my onco yesterday.. he told me that the cancer is going down. the one in my breast is really smaller.. but the bomb was dropped that they might want me to have my ovaries removed. which means i want be able to have children.. to be told this at 26 man thats a slap in the face,, i was just like man.. i thought i played by the book graduated high school without having a child.. (which where i am from our county had the highest teen pregnacy rate in north carolina) then college.. waited cause i wanted to be married when i had children. and then after being married 5 years and feeling like i was in a good place in my marriage i am told that i have breast cancer and now i might not be able to have children. i feel so robbed.. i mean its like omg i cant take anymore.. i just want to walk away from everything mentaly i dont know how much more i can take.. i can only be so strong.. and its like i dont know..i more than likely want be on for a while..but i dont know.. just wanted to say hello to all you ladies..

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    Lashon..   I've just PM'd you.   Deanna

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    Lashon, You are in my prayers. I just can't imagine what you are going through. I was able to have one child before I had my ovaries removed, and she is so precious.

    The Lord heals. I am glad your breast tumor is going down. Now I will pray that you can have the kids you want.

    Bette 

  • DesertRider
    DesertRider Member Posts: 178
    edited September 2008

    Lashon,

    I really want you to celebrate the cancer getting smaller. Take one thing at a time, girl. That's' the most important thing happening for us - that we are surviving and doing all we can. So the sure thing is the good news today. The discussion on the possibility of removing ovaries - "that they might want me to have my ovaries removed" might be open to other options!  Stay with us - yes, you did everything right and you still are!

    Deanna - So glad you are high energy after #3! I'm wiped and ready to try the B6, or anything. Thanks!

    ~  Gail

  • Corinne6
    Corinne6 Member Posts: 311
    edited September 2008

     roya, Vita mix is a 2 horsepower blender that you put fresh fruit for like smoothies, or you can make ice cream in it with fresh fruit. it also heats up soup from fresh vegetables.. check it our at vitamix.com/ Really cool but very expensive. i am trying hard to eat better to prevent future cancer. my cancer is ER+ which means it is better for me to avoid meats with hormones, dairy and milk products with hormones. i am really doing most organic everything now. Will have to wait and see what happens.  Anyhow, my naturopathic doctor reccomended fresh vegetable soups to me and this will fit in with that regime.

    lashon, My heart aches with you. I hope that you just rest on the Lord at this time as he works out details in your life. i know it is such a heartbeak at this time.  You definitely are so young for all of this. I will continue to pray for you

    Mamashift, I am so sorry that you were so sick. I trust better days are ahead.

    It has been a truely exhausting day. I have worked on my daughters wedding from 10:30 AM-830PM It looks so beautiful though. Only 2 more days!!

    Corinne

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  • Kymberlyn
    Kymberlyn Member Posts: 53
    edited September 2008

    Hello everyone!

    It has been so long since I've been online that I'm nearly exhausted just reading the last 13 pages.  LOL  I guess the good news is that we are all getting through it.  In the beginning of this, for me, everyone said "It's doable."  Well... it seems like everyone else is adjusting.  That's encouraging to me.

    I guess I'm online tonight for 2 reasons. 

    One, because I really do find hope here.

    Two, because this is the only place where I can say what I really want to say.  That is, "I'm miserable, my body aches, I feel useless and I hate being sick all the time!"  Instead, I tell them that I'm okay or that I'm just a little tired.  At night, I often cry myself to sleep.  I really wish my family and friends could be comforting instead of being afraid for me.   

    My family (both sides), from the grandparents down, is/was only 11 people.  Of the 11 we had 4 with various types of cancer and all 4 died.  My DH lost both parents to cancer.  I understand that they are sad and afraid so I try really hard to keep them believing that I'm doing well.  BUT, it's killing me that I can't just tell someone how I really feel and let them hug me or do something to comfort me.  I'm ssssooooo tired of being the one who has to comfort THEM!

    Okay, I'm done feeling sorry for myself. 
    Does anyone else feel this way?  Is this just a chemo depression?

    Anyway, I've been reading through this topic to see if anyone else feels like quiting.  Anyone? 

    My 3rd tx was on the 18th.  Each time the SE's are worse.  Today, 8 days after treatment, was the first day I didn't vomit and the first day that I had enough energy to actually cook my can of soup before eating it.  (DH is a train conductor so he's out of town 4-5 days a week - translation, he's useless and I have to feed myself.)

    The 1st tx only slowed me down for the first couple days.  The 2nd had bad effects for 5 days.  This time is 8 days!?!

    I'm scheduled for 4 rounds of AC.  I called the doc to tell him that I quit.  He told me to wait at least a week before I make this decission but that he wouldn't recommend it.

    How does this chemo stuff work?  Is it that we need a certain amount of the drugs but it has to be spread out in order for our bodies to tollerate it?  If so, I can see that I would need the last one in order to have enough drugs built up to finally kill the cancer.  Or, is this like killing fleas... you exterminate every week for a few weeks so that you break the cycle?  In that case, since my nodes were clear then would it be similar to catching the fleas as soon as they enter the house... no eggs to hatch means there isn't as much need for the extra extermination... no need for the last round. 

    If I don't take the last round I could tell the family that I was so good that I didn't need it.  It would help them breath a sigh of relief.  I'm so afraid of getting even sicker next time.  I think quiting would be good for all of us.

    Any thoughts on this?

    Sorry to be such a downer today but this is the only place where I can talk.

    Kym

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited September 2008

    Kym... So sorry to hear you're struggling, not only with the chemo, but with such a lack of support from your family.  It must be so tough.  I've just PM'd you some additional thoughts. I'm sure I'm not the only one on this board who cares and would welcome a PM or phone call from you whenever you need someone to talk to.   Deanna

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