Issels Treatment Center

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Has anyone heard of this facility.  They have a hospital in Mexico, and also outpatient clinics in Santa Barbara, Calif, and Arizona.  They use immunobiological treatment protocols that use non-toxic research based treatments to attack cancer.  It is very $$ ...  Although the outpatient clinics in the US are cheaper...  I don't think insurance would cover this, but it was interesting...  Wish I could win the lottery,,,,

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  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    I read about this program also...as you can see I'm always reading and searching.  I think this is another excellent program. The clinic in US is cheaper because there is no room and board involved.  Mexico you have meals and a room for you and a guess. A lot of the protocol's are like the one's at Oasis of Hope Hospital... they share the same building. There are still limits on what they can do at the US clinic's.

    Flalady

    I just remember one of the protocol's there was they make a vaccine out of your own tumor.

  • mjcs7
    mjcs7 Member Posts: 109
    edited September 2008

    I sent away for this material as well. The intake lady said they have had remissions of stage 4 bone metastases  (my issue) as well as other cancer sucesses.  The price was so high but I am still interested in the Gerson program as well.  There is something to these aproaches and I know they do not work for everyone but neither does chemo and radiation.

    MJ

  • Roja1955
    Roja1955 Member Posts: 235
    edited September 2008

    I've never heard of the Gerson program.  Will look into that as well.  Sometimes I wonder if this is all just a waste of money, but alot of the theories make sense.  I remember as a student nurse some 20 years ago, I did a rotation at a hospital in San Diego (Hillside Hospital), which did coffee enemas to their patients.  The concept of their program was similar to Gerson.

  • carol1949
    carol1949 Member Posts: 562
    edited September 2008

    I have also read about this place.  Let me remind you that I found a book by Dr. Patrick Quillin, Beating Cancer With Nutrition.  (He is former VP of Cancer Treatment Centers of America).

    It is also on the concept of building a strong immune system to fight the cancer.  He also gives examples of people who went into remission with stage 4 cancer w/ mets.

    I sure wish I could have afforded to go there as well...but fortunately  I have a friend who did and shared her information with me.  Quillin also gives good advice and even prioritizes supplements when $ is an issue of just how much you can do.

    Good Luck

    p.s. FLorida lady ... how long have you been at stage 4?

  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    Carol1949,

    I will be three years from original diagnoses in November and never made remission. (came very close earlier this year.) When you have localized recurrence the second time in the chest wall area you are considered Stage IV. (for me that has been 2 1/2 years)  I have been told my three top clinic's that the chest wall is the hardest area to treat. With my first mast. I was told I had three to six months to live.  I made a lier out of them:)  I have worked full time through all 30+ dose dense chemos (7 different kinds)  three surgeries and rads because I chose to do alternative along with conventional. (and with God's mercy) I had 57 nodes positive for cancer.  Right now I have a return of Inflammatory bc, along with clavical area and nodes "next" to liver/lung. But I feel great and still working and enjoying life.  I have found someone to work with me here in Florida just this week that does many treatments I wanted from these clinic's.  Don't give up there are some in all part's of the country.  I mortgage my house for treatment.  I rather be homeless and alive than gone worrying who to leave the house too....(I'm single) I believe there is more than one way to skin this cat. (can you tell I'm a southern?)  Best wishes to all you girls who are looking for hope.  I have found hope in education about all my options.

    Flalady

  • Maryiz
    Maryiz Member Posts: 975
    edited September 2008
    FlaLady, have they done any clinical trials on perhaps a different approach to chest wall?  It seems like that would be great for you because you don't have distant mets, right?  I know you research a lot, but just wondering if something else might work on those little S###ITS?  STAY WELL, Maryiz
  • FloridaLady
    FloridaLady Member Posts: 2,155
    edited September 2008

    Maryiz,

    I did a clinical trial at MD Anderson Houston in the early part of 2007.  I will never do anther Phase I or II again...nor will I ever go near that place again.  This is were I got my server neuropathy from, with a trial on a drug that the Germany knew it was useless four years earlier.  They damage many people to the point for complete disability with no response.  They called me a year later to finally ask me how I was doing and if I had any side effects. Please a year later...the lady on the phone said that they were having so horrible side effects.  I ask her if they were still playing with this drug a year later...she said Yes. I was very unimpressed with research clinics.  (been to #1 and #10)  They were playing with drugs that I rec'd 3 years ago outside of trials.  My onc. can get many pretty much any drug I want.  But with server neuropathy I can not do chemo without risking permanent disability from Level 3-4 neuropathy.  I also have shown also most complete resistant to chemo from day one.  My tumor triple in size while on ACT dose dense.  This pretty much told me not to rely on chemos as my only hope...

    As you can see I have given conventional treatment many chances....they have given NO hope per all three clinics I have been treated at.  I chose to live in hope that there is another way...

    Flalady

    PS: I had one cancer center tell me that when they were playing with stem cell transplant for bc patients they learned that they could kill bc in most mets...but not the chest wall.  From what I've been told it is very rare to have so many local recurrences...I was told I'm ahead of science. Just lovely....

  • suegeyer
    suegeyer Member Posts: 14
    edited September 2008

    Hi, I had a mastectomy for triple neg BC a year ago.  I did not do chemo.  now I have a return to the chest wall.  I see an onc. tomorrow.  I have been searching for Alternative Clinics in the states.  Preferably Florida where I live.  I have Lupus and heart disease so rad & chemo would be harder on me then the cancer.  I have cleaned up my diet etc. and haven't had a cold or flu in over a year with all the grandkids around!  Floridalady Where is the person you found in Florida.

    thanks,

    Sue

  • Roja1955
    Roja1955 Member Posts: 235
    edited September 2008

    Fl lady:  I have two girls that live in Fl - Orlando and St. Petersburg.  Who is the person that you use? 

  • uksoccerfan
    uksoccerfan Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2008

    That is correct, Issels is on the fourth or fifth floor at the Oasis of Hope Hospital.

    The interesting thing, I asked about this because I had met some patients in the Chapel that were on this program. Immediately, the subject was changed and further information was not given. I was really curious as to why a separate cancer protocol was going on in this building, different from what Dr. Contrerars Jr. implemented. I believe the Oasis of Hope hospital rents out that floor to Issels. Oasis goes out of its way to make sure that Oasis patients do not mix with Issel's patients. Even at the front desk, you can't find any info about Issels. It is like the Issel's clinic is hidden from the Oasis hospital. Even if you ask about the other floors, employees are instructed to just say they treat people with other illnesses like hepatitis. I believe the other floor, the fifth is rented to the Hallelujah Clinic.

    I think the therapies should be combined , so that the successful components are integrated. If Issels is good enough to be housed in the Oasis of Hope clinic and it fits their standards, then why haven't Oasis patients like me been offered these other treatments that could help me. I am sure they are keeping data too and know what aspects of these are working.  I am going to bring this up with the people at Oasis. Brings into mind the business aspect and customer recruiting aspect of this all, as I stated in an earlier post. No one wants to lose customers. 

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