Trip to Tijuana Mexico change my outlook forever
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I just came back from a tour in Tijuana Mexico. I went to this cancer show last labor day weekend in universal city hollywood called cancer control society. Then I paid for the bus tour to Tijuana, Mexico.
I initially thought this was all a scam in Mexico. I was wrong. This is the only place to go to save your life.
The tour showed the top 8 clinics in Tijuana. Prior to this tour, I was so doubtful about Tijuana as a dangerous city. Well, these clinics, really small hospitals, has state of the art German made equipment and very highly intelligent doctors that have published research.
I now know that Tijuana Mexico is the cutting edge place for cancer treatment.
In a short posting, I will tell you what I found out that is working that is cutting edge that you won't ever see at your HMO.
Believe me, I spoke to many returning patients, maybe like 20 returning patients all from different clinics, most were stage 4 and given months to live that are now cancer free or under remission. 1 lady told me she had 2 weeks to live and came to Tijuana as a last resort, that was 9 years ago. She now volunteers I think to help others. Most of these people went to Tijuana after unsuccessfully doing chemo and radiation in the USA.
Really I was surprised. I talked everyone I could, to get the real opinion. I talk to one man from the east coast that said that he should have been dead and yet could now walk after 3 weeks of treatment and getting better.
Here is what the different clinics do that seems to be working. You will never see this, or hear this anywhere but in Germany or Tijuana mexico. So don't even both to ask your USA doctor about this, all the USA does in chemo, radiation and surgery and put you in a body bag
This is the main stuff that interested me.
1.whole body hyperthermia- slighly heat the blood using a german made , very expensive machine. At one clinic I spoke the doctor that is in charge of this, and he is a genius and explained heating the blood a few degrees higher will kill off or weaken the cancer, It is used with the other therapies below .
2.IPT- insulin potentiation therapy - lower blood sugar , weaken cancer since it thrives on sugar, then give very very High dose of IV vitamin C, like 60 grams with DMSO and B17 to kill cancer. SOme used an over the counter supplement too called polmva (i dont know what this is exactly, I will be researching)
3. Using UV light to kill of blood pathogens
4. Ozone - using ozone to kill the cancer cells. or Peroxide H2o2
6. Iscador,not sure but this works what ever it is
7. Transfer factors to boost immune system and it make white cell count go down. They do this via IV. They also have pill form too.
8. If they do use chemo, it is 5% the dose used after IPT, the different clincs protect the rest of the body and organs , it is basially a new concept in Chemo and seems to work well with IPT.
9. Organic Coffee Enemas to detox the liver- , not drunk, only as an enema
10. the Diet at these clincs was similar, raw vegetable carrot juice, fruits and vegetables, maybe fish, no meet (Follow the dr. max Gerson diet and budwig diet
11. Hyperbaric oxygen if needed
12. Half of the clinics make what they call dendritic vaccines that use your blood sample and make a vaccine to attack the cancer.
13. Root canals- A top US dentist and several mexican dentists spoke and said there is a strong link to root canals and breast cancer. U can google this to find out more info, very interesting. Something I never knew. The clinics remove root canals once the patient gets stronger. They also remove amalgam mercury fillings too. After this presentation and the data they showed, I will be removing all mercury fillings and 2 root canals this year
14. Rife machine - only 4 out of the 9 clinics use this. Use Rife frequencies to kill cancer cells, These that I spoke too have claimed to have good results and good data to back up their work.
I found out that the dietary aspect is totally ignored by orthodox treament. The clinics I visited all understand the whole body approach, the diet is a key factor to stay cancer free. Again, a lot of them are using the dr. Max Gerson diet to keep the person cancer free once the treatment is done to remove the cancer.
15. Water- the water recommended by about half the clinics there was distilled water , the patient must take a good pure naturally dervived mineral supplemenation.
16. Drink ozone water, 4 cups per day too.
17. Half of the clinics had swimming pools, no chlorine in them, only hydrogen peroxide.
The tour was done by the cancer control society in Los angeles .
Good luck, it changed my whole outlook and I will never visit a US hospital for cancer treatment if I or a love one ever had cancer.
The only draw back, these clincs average 20 k per total treatment. So that rules out most of the Mexican population and only Westerners can afford it. This upset me.
But, after talking to these doctors, many American by the way , who are forced to practice in Mexico, and hearing the stories from patients there, this is the only hope to healthy treatment. US CHemo will kill you in 2 yrs.
GOD BLESS YOU, AND GOOD LUCK, CANCER IS A TERRIBLE DISEASE THAT DESTROYS FAMILIES .
BTW, I am not going to respond to the posts that will surely follow like the lady who got chemo in the USA and is still here. THat is great news, u are lucky, most are not and the death toll is huge. Cancer spreads fast, and in most cases comes back, that is why these clinics put people on strict raw juice diets and little meat. Again, I was really amazed by the intelligence and love these clinics have. , From what I saw and the countless people I spoke to in Mexico, the patients, mexican and usa doctors on this tour, the bottom line, If you have stage iv cancer i.e., breast cancer, your only hope is germany or Tijuana (why do u think farrah facet went to Germany? she could easily have gone anywhere here in the usa),
So those of you that got chemo here in the USA, I doubt that most had stage iv and bone metastisis and to lungs and liver and I doubt most are able to live a fully normal life. The people I spoke to , many were stage iv and sent home die and Tijuana saved their lives and are functional and look good and are not toxic. So u need to stop giving people false hope about chemo. The statistics don't lie. Most people in tijuana had heavy chemo in the USa where even their eye lashes fell out and they told me they wanted to die because of the chemo
Those of you that won't keep an open mind and see that Tijuana is your only hope, go read the story I recently read about make up artist heir: Max factor's son, who was terminal, couldn't walk and was told he would die in months. He was one of thousands successfully treated in Mexico.
Like I said, I was a real big skeptic and doubter, until this tour. Go do your own homework like I did. . Don't depend on others, or some negative, non religious person or HMO doctor that gives you a death sentence. YOu need to take care of yourself and act fast. Do your own homework. U need to take charge. Too many people find excuses. Time is not on your side. Too many negative people out there.
GOod luck and and God bless u all, I have spoken honestly as I can. This is my opinion based on my experience. I am sharing info from what i saw and the people i talked to. and I am not a doctor and I am not telling u what to do and you should get medical advice that you think will help u. Again, no medical advice is implied here, just my opinion about my changed experiences.
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Did you just take the tour or did you receive treatments also? I fail to understand why alternative therapies are so maligned.
I also dont' understand the coffee enema treatment. If it's good enough to go up a butt, it should be enough to drink. I personally prefer to drink my coffee. I'm also wondering if there are facilities as you describe on the other end of the mexico border. Matamores is an easy daytrip from where I live, just across the rio grande from Brownsville. I looked at the list of physicians at the cancer control society site. I didn't see one mention for the entire giant state of texas.
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althea.....Note this poster said "if I or another family member"......apparently this person doesn't have bc or any other cancer.....they are a troll.....Thus it is a SCAM!
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Please do not label this person a troll. I took this Tijuana tour also several years ago and it is first rate and the tour leader is a well respected person. I would like to thank the poster for taking the time to list the specific therapies such as ozone and hyperthermia. These therapies are also available in top German clinics at three times the price.
Indeed, the best time to visit the clinics is BEFORE you or a family member have cancer because it takes a lot of homework and reference checking to get information.
Because of a few bad clinics, the reputation of the others has suffered by proximity.
Althea, I know it sounds odd but coffee ememas were listed in the Merck Manual as a liver detox therapy for many years. I know because I bought an old Merck on Ebay and it was there. People laugh at it but is it really odder than running poison into your all the cells just to get some bad ones? [rhetorical question].
Dean, did you hear the speaker on Iodine? How was he?
Anom
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Anom, I don't see why your question should be rhetorical at all. Why DO we agree to run poison through all our cells just to kill the bad ones? And why are medical professionals prescribing such horrific treatments if something else less drastic can help? I get that the pharmaceuticals are powerful and greedy. But if there's truth in the treatments south of the border, I just don't see how anything could be powerful enough to discredit and silence that truth for such a prolonged period of time.
I'd like to know what ozone water is.
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Althea
I didn't agree to run poison through my cells. My oncologist recommended it, but because my tumor was small (less than 1 cm) and I had no node involvement - I just couldn't see doing chemo as a prophylactic.
I've also checked several methods of alternative treatment, and one of the ones I saw offered in Mexico is vitamin B-17 or laetril. Does anyone know anything about this? I know the US doctors say it's a hoax, but I've read an awful lot about it and it does seem to make sense. Also, one has to wonder why not only is it illegal to sell vitamin B-17 in the US, but it's also illegal to grow bitter almond trees, which have seeds high in B-17. One can find apricot seeds (also high in B-17) in health food stores - but the government will not allow anyone selling these to also provide information on B-17 as a cancer treatment. WTH is that?
Face it. Cancer is a huge business.There are effective treatments out there. But look how many people would be out of a job, not to mention lose millions and millions, if a cure was found!
If I could afford to go to Mexico, I'd do it.
Su
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Forgot to add this to favorites so I'll get the email updates.
Su
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I also did a lot of research on Mexico and Germany clinic's. I would prefer Germany...but can't afford it. I have done natural treatment when ever I can. My bc is very aggressive and I hope to get it knock down before trying these slower treatments. I have recently thought about going to Mexico again...the difference is. I can have quality of life if a get healed or not. Chemo is killing my quality of life.
I read a good book called "50 Survior's of Cancer". All of these people healed stage IV with natural treatments. I believe there is more research here than the big pharm and our lovely FDA does. What clinic did you think was one of the better ones? I looked into Oasis Hospital.
As for enemas...it's about getting the cancer cell and toxic waste out of your body as fast as you can. This enema flushes the liver very fast. Your blood passes through your liver twice. If there are any live cancer cells they can hang out in the liver and grow. This is why most cancer patients have mets to the liver. I don't know if I could do up to five a day....
Thanks for your post.
Flalady
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Hi all,
I agree we need to investigate all possibilities of treatment. In France (where I spent most of my adult life), homeopathic remedies and natural medicine are often favored even by regular physicians.
However, I also think we need to keep in mind that both Steve McQueen and Coretta Scott King died in Mexican cancer clinics where they'd gone in a last-ditch effort to recover from stage IV cancer. In other words, a little healthy scepticism isn't such a bad thing ...
Annie
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Heather...Both of the people you mentioned were at the end of life when they went to Mexico. There is a point of no return for all of us....
I researched Iscador (Mistletoe) I had read that Germany used this. There is some very positive trails on this. I looked a Transfer Factor that someone else had told be about also. Again some very good trial data. I love it that Sloan Kettering even had positive things to say. I know they had a hard time with posting that info. I loved it...at the end of each post was a note that more trials needed to be done. So... what are you waiting for? I know... they need to figure out how to artificial make it so they can patent it. There is a Dr in Texas that is using whole body hypothermia with chemo.
If I had to money I would be in Germany in a heart beat. They are the pioneers of cellular research. I did find that Suzanne Sommers took Iscador. Only two places in the US does it. I did not like the looks of their sites.
Flalady
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Last visit, my natural path added Iscador and vitamin A to my already long list of supplements she had me taking. She stated that lately there's more research to support Iscador and breast cancer. From my understanding Iscador only recently became approved to be dispensed by a licensed pratictioner only. Suzanne Sommers said in an interview that initially she was getting it illegally from Switzerland.
Much of Europe relies heavily on alternative treatments. I have a friend who lives in Switzerland who's husband recently got diagnosed with testicular cancer and she has said many times that is glad that they are not in the US to getting treatment or she would be much more worried. Their approach is so different from the US. They are combiningg conventional and alternative treatment. The physicians there are versed in both unlike here in the US it's difficult to find a physician who understands conventional and alternative.
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Flalady-
you are right...Germany is definitely leading the cellular research end of medicine.
LizM
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LizM,
What doctor prescribe yours? Can a homopathic doctor get this? I would like to try this.
Flalady
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Heather,
This is a friendly correction about what you said regarding Steve McQueen and Coretta Scott King dying in Mexican Clinics.
1. Steve McQueen died of a heart attack a day after surgery to remove a necrotic "dead" tumor.
2. Coretta Scott King went to Mexico but died of advanced cancer before any treatment could be started.
Their deaths had nothing to do with the clinics.
Anom
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Hi, can anyone eludicate on what treatments Germany has that the U.S. doesn't? Are they ahead of U.S. as far as breast cancer treatment? I did always wonder why Farrah Fawcett ended up in Germany and is apparently cured? Does anyone have any knowledge? The sad thing about cancer research is there is so much competition and everyone holds their cards close to their chest. That was the one good thing about Stand Up To Cancer, they are trying to get researchers to work together on research, Anyhow, just wondering about Germany. Mary
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Yes, McQueen did die of two (not one) massive heart attacks following surgery to remove several mestastasized tumors from his abdomen (he was initially diagnosed with mesothelioma, maybe from asbestos clothing worn when he drove his beloved race cars). There is no report that the tumors were necrotic. His death followed three months in a clinic in Juarez where he was treated, among other things, with extract of apricot pits.
As far as Coretta King is concerned, she died at a clinic in Tijuana which subsequently was closed by the authorities. See friendly link below.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/feb/04/mexic
In the meanwhile, I'm investigating what sort of treatment is available in Germany (my family is all in Europe). When I find out, I'll post that information here.
Hugs to all,
Annie
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Thanks "anomdenet", the information I posted could possibly save someone's life, and this person "holyann" calls it a scam. FOr you holann, your post is very sad, this forum is for people that are desperate and have given up on the USA's lack of cancer success. Cancer destroys families, and people like you contribute to this vicious cycle. Who are u anyway?
SO, HOLYANN, go and get chemo and radiation and toxic doses of other poison, STOP INSULTING AND BASHING OR you will be deleted from this forum.
FOr the rest of you, I suggest , like I said in my post, take the tour yourself, and do your own homework. Don't listen to negative people that are too stubborn and too evil and selfish that don't want you to get better. I am a devout Christian and the devil is preventing information for getting out.
The list I posted out of love for you all is from 12 hours of what i got from the tour and from the doctors I personally talked to and the many patients I spoke to. As most of you will see if you do google searches, these are proven treatment options and make sense, especially full body hyperthermia and IPT and UV and Ozone. Too many people just can't accept that the USA has failed for cancer and are in disbelief.
None of those items I posted are protocol for any USA HMO. In fact, something as simple as vitamin C high dose via IV is prohibited by most HMOS. GO walk into your HMO and say I want Vitamin C 30 grams IV, they will say sorry and you will say, well nobel prize laurate linus pauling warded off his cancer for years with it and this was decades ago. U see the pattern.
Do your own homework. You don't have time to waste, many go from stage I to stage Iv in a few months.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
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Good grief. I am SO outta here!
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Does anyone know if there are any completed or ongoing clinical trials for IPT?
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Heather, your facts are wrong.
Indeed, the clinic Mrs. King checked into was closed by the authorities even tho she had NO TREATMENT. Just because the Mexican government closes a clinic under pressure from the US is no proof of wrongdoing.
It might be better to do more in-depth investigation of the facts from authoritative sources before closing your mind and repeating inaccurate scuttlebutt. These boards are for serious fact-checkers. Some of us have investigated cancer therapies for 20 years.
And please do not ignorantly disparage apricot pits and their various delivery systems. That subject is too complex to go into here and has been the subject of some wonderful exposes and cover-ups of its success. If you talk to the absolute best people, it will still take you 3 months to get adequately informed about apricot pits alone.
Anom
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Maryiz,
Your question about Germany...They are do mostly the same things as Mexico...there are so differences...I did the research a couple of years ago and forgot most of it. The key in learning about Germany is read about any cellular advancement in the last 40 to 60 years and it will come out of this area. More Noble Prize's for cellular work again come's from this area. Read Tanya Harter Pierce book about alternative cancer tx and she goes into a lot of these research scientist. I remember one thing was not all of Mexico uses mistletoe but Germany does. See the St George Clinic website.
Flalady
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Hi Everyone,
I just want to add one thing. After I diagnosied with DCIS, my brother-in-law's sister, who has IBC, also survived for over 6 years, right now cancer-free and very energitic, emailed me a pieace of soup recipe given by her Chinease herb doctor, one of the ingredients is bitter almond seed.
Chinese know bitter almond seed is toxic only if you consume huge amount in one time. They already eat them for thousands of years. If you consume certain amount everyday and also boil them, they wouldn't kill you, will only do you good. There is a Chinese saying: toxic kill toxic. Because cancer cell is so toxic to our human body, we should find something more toxic to kill them.
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FlaLady, thanks for your help. You are always there to answer questions. Much love, Maryiz
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To the women who are doing only alternative treatments: does this mean you had no surgery but left the malignant mass? Do you have any medical tests or checks, or do you just know that you are alive and well? You have certainly done a lot of research.
Thank you.
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Pansy,
We try to make a decision about the same factor's as regular bc patients. You should know your disease: grade, receptor etc... How aggressive it is and where it is located. My disease is very aggressive. I have decided to use both when I realized chemo does not do a lot for me. Even natural medicine agrees with debunking of the tumor if it is large. Or in a place that put it at high risk of spreading to nodes, organ or bone. (surgery) Less disease means less disease the body most fight off. As for test...the key is finding a doctor who will work with you. Some homeopathic doctor can write a prescription for scans. And there are some onc. that will work with patients who do not want to do chemo/rads. With so many patients wanting to use CAM that doctor's are becoming a little more open minded. If your doctor will not work with you have to keep looking for one who will. As a CAM patient you do feel a little more on your own. So many do not understand that we read and study all the time to learn how to be part of our treatment decisions.
Flalady
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deansanders, DO you have or have had bc? If so, have you tried this method? If not how do you know it really works? I am not trying to insult or am I bashing anyone.....I just know from experience that most of that stuf is mumbo jumbo and doesn't work....If it does work then why are the Mexicans coming here to get treatment?....I am truly curious to know these thing......I am open minded to alternative treatments...I grew up on them....I seldom ever went to a doctor for a cold or flu...we used natural remedies....So I just want to know ........How do you know it really works? And just ewxactly what IS ozone water?......I asked my oncologist and my regular doctor AND my local homeopathic doctor but none of them knew what it was......Thank you!
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Holly, we sold a motorhome to a lady that had been told by her doctors that she was stage 4, she went to Mexico. 6 years later she is still her. She emailed me and I've kept her email in case I ever need it.
I have another lady who bought a trailer, City of Hope told her to go home and die. She did experimental treatment in Orange County, CA at the John Waynce Cancer Center. She has been going strong for 3 years now. When I first met her I thought she still looked terrible but she had hope in her eyes. She gives herself shots every day and goes in for "maintenance" chemo every 3 months or so. It was not bc, I think it was a brain tumor but can't remember but for sure it was cancer.
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I'm curious how you know these people were tling the truth-that they had stage IV cancer to begin with?? You were on a TOUR that you PAID for They could have paid all those people to say those things! Where is the scientific research and in what journals??
D
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Priz it's called picking up the books reading and websites research. All these treatments have sixty or more years of treatment history. Most of these are in medical journals with a final note that more research needs done. So why haven't the research been done? Open you mind and get education. Why does the rest of the world use these treatments and not America or were the big pharm companies are? The main source of education for a doctor after completing their education is when the pharm rep comes to his office! Doctor's have two weeks in their education on vitamins and supplements. Why would they prescribe something they do not understand.
CAM patients do not go into anything blindly we believe and education and choice!
Flalady
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I'm with you, Priz. Many people looking for hope will go to places like these and spend lots of money on something that doesn't have data on it. If these therapies worked, the institutions that charge 20K for these treatments should have data to prove it works. Corporations everywhere are into making money, so if it worked, they would find a way to give you these treatments in the U.S. They're doing this in Mexico, in my opinion, because no one is regulating them and what they offer isn't even as good as what you get here.
Bobbie
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So, if Germany has these wonderful machines and treatments, are their cancer survival rates better than other countries'? I'm really curious about that. We tend to hear the anecdotal stories of the good stuff, but we tend not to get the skinny on the folks who do not have the stellar, unexpected success stories.
And, as an aside, websites are not the same as grounded scientific research.
Bobbie, I agree with the lack of regulation in the Mexican clinics. Buyer beware.
That said, people certainly have the right to seek treatment that meets their needs the best.
Anne
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