Last week of fitness before the surgery

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Journey
Journey Member Posts: 905
edited June 2014 in Working on Your Fitness

Okay ladies - this is my last week before the big bilat. (unless something changes!) Anyway, I have walked over a mile up and down hills for 9 of the last 11 days since my surgical biopsy - which still hurts like heck sometimes.  (Am I really going to be a wimp?  Damn!)

So I am getting back on the horse and will go to my Martial arts class twice this week and strength training with a trainer (read task master) on Friday - just my lower body and maybe a little on my non surg. chest side.  I just want to be as strong as I possibly can before going under the knife and living in lala land with the pain killers for a few days afterwards. 

It is going to be SOOO hard on my soul not to get out on the floor and do anything for a while. I just may go insane....Yell 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Journey, a coach of mine once told me that it takes three times as long to lose conditioning as it did for you to gain it; in other words, if you trained for a year, it would take you three years to go back to square one. It may be all lip, but it kept me from feeling guilty when I had to take some time away for surgery, pregnancy, r&r or whatever!

    I see it like this: you are in pretty good shape already, so even if you did nothing this week, you'd still be in much better shape than the folks who are not as physically fit as you when they have major surgery. You're used to dealing with adversity (getting into a ring to spar is about as adversity-ridden as it gets); your road may have just as many obstacles, but you'll know how to get around/over them, lol...

    And you really won't go insane being away from activity for a while - I PROMISE. You know how the formula for getting stronger is working hard followed by rest/recovery? Well, consider this your body's time to recover: very necessary.

    All the best to you with your surgery. Post when you can to let us know how you're doing... 

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited August 2008

    Both times I had surgery (bilat masts, then implant exchange) I had to take a reluctant break from my fitness routine. Each time I've come back stronger, but in different ways. The down time was good for me, I think, but I had to make sure I didn't try to do too much too soon once I got started up again.

    I do think that being strong pre-op will help you through the post-op phase, so go for it now while you can!

    Best of luck,

    Anne

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited August 2008

    Thanks for the pep talk ladies!  Good stuff to know and re-confirm for me.

    Now if I can just remember where I put my damn gear bag.....

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited August 2008

    I agonized about this considerably before my surgery.

    Eventually I found a plastic surgery site where they advised recent surgical patients about their return to exercise routines.  I suspect that many cosmetic plastic surgery patients are as neurotic as the best of us about exercise and would go back too quickly.

    They suggested holding your heart rate to 110 or below during the post-surgery healing period - 6-10 weeks. Higher heart rates can send blood pounding through arteries/veins and break out areas that are healing up.

    For me that's about the rate I get on a brisk but not speed-runner walk. It does you good to get out and walk around after surgery. If you've been on narcotics it can remind your digestion that it needs to keep things moving around! Plus some fresh air brightens your spirits.  

  • CAZ
    CAZ Member Posts: 678
    edited August 2008

    I would have concentrated on my core strength before my BM if I had known how hard it would be to sit up for a little while after SX.  I ended up curling my knees to my chest and using my leg strength to pull myself up.

    Journey, be as still as possible initially and your drains will come out faster.  Inactivity was easy at first for me since surgery exhausted me for a couple of weeks.  The pain wasn't that bad with the meds.  Best of luck and a speedy recovery.

    Carol(AZ)

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited September 2008

    My sister and I both do super slow strength training (heavy weights - controlled movements- muscle failure target @ 2 minutes).  Anyway, her trainer just told her that I may be a heavy bleeder in surgery because I have built up a lot of muscle and that muscle holds a lot of blood.  Has anyone heard this before?   I am having bilat with expander which of course go behind the pecs.  Frown  Anybody have any experience in this?  Thanks.

  • debiker
    debiker Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2008

    I am one week post op from bilat mast. I am thankful for strong abs as I can do a sit up in bed with no arms and rearrange my pillows. Finding out I don't need pectoral muscles for a sit up. I am taking a walk every morning for about 1 mile. I cannot use my arms for much so walking will be it for awhile. I go see the PS on 9-2 so will find out what she thinks I should do. during my walk my HR gets up a bit, I do not measure it. I get some deep breaths which really helps. this is enough for me right now. Used to work out 7 days a week and raced triathlons.

  • warriorprincess
    warriorprincess Member Posts: 36
    edited September 2008

    I found that my HR was a bit elavated w/ my workouts for about a 6 wks following bilat mast w/ expanders. I started out just walking and moved onto intervals. (walk/run)  I did not hold it to anywhere near 110 bpm even from the start, that wouldn't even feel like a workout for me. No problems w/ healing. I also lifted heavy prior to surgery and no problems w/ bleeding, in fact my BS said I lost very little blood. I'm just concerned about going back to lifting after my final implants are placed. I worry about displacing them and being to weak to get a good workout. I guess I'll just take it slow and see how it goes. 

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited September 2008

    debiker & warriorprincess - Thanks for sharing.  Guess I'll just put one foot in front of the other and go from there. WP - great to hear about the little loss of blood.  I hope that will be my case as well.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2008

    We'll be thinking of and praying for you, Journey. Tell your surgeon a joke before surgery (always worked for me; wanted them to be in good moods before slicing and dicing, lol)...

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited October 2008

    Good luck, Journey!! Please be assured that your pre-op fitness will be a big plus......and rest on your laurels and lots of down pillows for awhile.

    One of my expanders had to be replaced; muscle pulled away. This has delayed replacement surgery, and I fear it's my own fault for wanting to be "normal" a little soon.

    Walk in the beautiful Atlanta late summer and leave the heavy lifting for the moment!

    Come back soon and we'll cheer you on!

  • debiker
    debiker Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2008

    Journey - by the time u read this u will be post op, I know I didn't do much on the computer for a week. I did want to mention my one mile walk did not get the blessing of my plastic surgeon and she asked me to only walk around the house, I was asking her if I could go further or faster. I had bilateral with immediate (small) silicone implants with Alloderm. 

  • stillrusty
    stillrusty Member Posts: 120
    edited September 2008

    Journey,

    I hope your surgery went well. I had a lidocaine pain pump for 5 days after my surgery, and so I had very little discomfort. My plastic surgeon said to wait 4 weeks before doing any upper body work at the gym. Maybe I was too active because it took two weeks to get my drain removed. After one week I resumed walking. Just a slow walk- I walk at the beach and my walking route is 2 miles. I am 8 weeks post op and I am back at the gym. I started going back at 2 weeks- but did only lower body and the bike for some light aerobic work. I had a unilat. mast. with tissue expander placed on 7/9. At 4 weeks I did go back to upper body weights- but I used the lowest weight and went for more reps. I don't want to dislodge my expander or anything. I've increased my weights but I am still taking it easy and going for more reps rather than a higher weight. I'm back to jogging- but only 1 mile. Before sugery I only did 2 miles jogging 2 miles walking. I'm doing less but it is  because of working full time and 2 kids etc. -not the surgery.  As far as exercise and the tissue expander- it feels weird to me- doing just everyday things like wiping down the kitchen counters- I'm hoping that goes away when they do the exchange. I'm sure you know by now- but there is very little blood loss for this type of surgery.

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited September 2008
    Wow - I'm sitting in my queenly oversized chair with ottoman stuffed with fluffy pillows and soft blankets.  A girl can really get spoiled Cool.  All kidding aside - I am sooo thankful that I have good core and leg strength as that has helped me become pretty mobile on my own.  The meds just wipe me out, but I know I have to lay low to allow my body to heal.  Started eating some protein last night and again this morning.  Loading up on h2o and other fluids. I have 2 drains per side but only one side is killing me.  Looks like they are slowing down so I may luck out and have 2 taken out Monday.  Here's hoping -right!  I am walking my laps around my house every waking hour.  I really think that by Monday I will sneak outside with help to take a small walk around the block.  Just looking forward to getting off the pain meds but don't see that really happening anytime very soon.  Sorry for the ramble.  Thanks for being out there!
  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited September 2008

    Good on you, Journey! On with the rest of it now!

    I had ARDS in February (7 days in an induced coma). When I woke up I couldn't pull a tissue out of a box. I had to learn to walk again. THEN I had to learn to walk with shoes on!! My muscle wastage was unbelievable.

    8 months later I am much stronger and walking heaps. I finish chemo on Sept 28th. Now, I tell you all this because you sound like a good person to ask: The muscles on the bottom/back of the upper arms..see! I don't even know what they're called..how can I get those back? They are so saggy and lady-of-a-certain-age looking. They were not like that before. I don't do the gym thing, but I have some hand-weights at home. Any tips? BTW when 'I woke up', I started by pumping an unopened fruitbox drink. 250g ! How funny is that! 

  • Journey
    Journey Member Posts: 905
    edited September 2008

    Hi Kerry - boy sounds like you have had a rough ride already.  I'm no expert but I would like to know if you have been advised to not lift much because of the nodes removed?  I would hate for you to start doing workout with weights and it trigger lymphedema in your arm. That flabby back of the arm thing (triceps) is something I struggle with too. It is a tough area for sure.  Let me know what your limitations are and let's see what may be a good starting point for you.  Anyone else want to jump in here too with advice?

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited September 2008

    Thanks journey!

    When I say 'workout' I'm talking small! I haven't had advice re training and the big "L", but from what I've read the advice is to 'go slowly'. I might find it hard to get really good L advice here in Tasmania, but I will get it from SOMEWHERE before I start up. I'm in pretty good shape I guess..14lbs o/w (since all this cancer shite/chemo carousel started), bit short of breath..not too bad..and no other stuff like diabetes. I walk 5-7kms through the bush (complete with little hills and some rocks to scramble up) and still look for more. Spring is coming here, so I will LOVE your fitness tips!

    Might be a good little extra thread to start. XX 

  • Daffodil
    Daffodil Member Posts: 829
    edited October 2008

    The Breast Cancer Survivor's Fitness Plan (Harvard Medical School Guides): Carolyn M. Kaelin, Francesca Coltrera, Josie Gardiner

    I requested this from library. Authors are medical personnel/survivors. It was recommended by another board member, and exercises are geared for each type of surgery. A good way to get started safely......................

    Good to see you're back and good luck!

  • kerry_lamb
    kerry_lamb Member Posts: 778
    edited September 2008
    Thanks Pansy! I'm going to check this out and get my Grand Plan going! Kiss

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