Christina Applegate...venting
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Thanks for sending me that link. Now that I have seen the interview, I have a clearer understanding. She has actually been battling this for 4 months, not 15 days as the media reported. She chose double mastectomy because of her positive BRACA1. The interview eased any anger I felt initially when I read the story in the paper about her "15 day battle". I am confident that she will use her celebrity to be a positive advocate for all of us.
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dont get wrapped up in the media. Stupid STAR magazine, is saying that christina is delaying chemo tx's to have a baby...
that's so false its ridiculous. She's BRCA 1, and like any young BRCA 1 women, she wants to have a kid before having her oopherectomy....
the stupid press has no clue.
She's set to take the stage for SU2C on 9-5-08 at 8 pm on ABC, CBS and NBC. I know she will be a great advocate....
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I thought it was a good interview. Considering how very hard this is for all for us. To give an interview three weeks after a bi-lat and to tell the world about it. I wish she could have shared even more with "us" but I was humbled by the interview. AND I was humble by the fact she did not wear a big huge sweat shirt. In the shirt she wore, she showed the world, three weeks later, she had no breasts. I had three friends ( that do not have BC) call me and say.." she showed the WORLD that you are BEAUTIFUL with or without breasts and they could not have done that three weeks after.
So, little me thought it was a good interview, considering.
Gods Love,
Laura
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I have admiration and respect for her spunk. In so many ways she and her family have just begun the healing process. In the face of adversity she is even taking steps to think of how she can help others with the brca gene get mri's.
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Thanks for posting the interview.
If she can make a difference with young women getting tested well before 40 she will save many lives. I still think the ACS has to stop saying that women don't need to get a baseline mammo until 40. I am so glad I got my baseline at 34. If I hadn't my cancer wouldn't have been found before I turned 40.
I really like that program she said she is starting wrt breast mris. I have a friend who was just told she had suspicious calcifications but her docs said she should watch and wait.... UGH! I have been trying to tell her to get a breast MRI to see what she is watching and waiting for . She looked at me like I was telling her to train for the next space shuttle mission.
I am also glad to see a young, pretty woman go public about her bilat. She must be getting implants based on what they said about her surgery. So now she must have expanders.
I hope her recon turns out great so she can show the world that those of us with recon are not freaks...but beautiful works in progress.
As far as her saying she is free and clear- oh boy- someone better tell her to stop that. She also said it can't get any darker for her than it has been right now.... Um, I hope so, Christina- but don't tempt fate. I know too many women who started with DCIS who are now metsters.
We are never free and clear and done. Ever. That is the third rail with us survivors. It is what "civilians" just don't get.
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Each of our journeys are different and we have the right to respond in any way that helps us get through. I don't believe that any one of us has the right to criticize a sister for her choices, whether they are treatment-related or attitudinal. I also don't believe that an individual, even a "celebrity" is responsible for speaking for the entire spectrum of those of us afflicted with a common disease. Apparently, Ms. Applegate was prompted to "come out' about her BC because it had been leaked to the media and she wanted to clear up rumors and speculation. She should have no further obligation to share this personal experience with the public, though its always nice to have an additional advocate for our cause.
JMHO....
~Marin
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We all have the opportunity to keep our BC journey private. They do not. Although I hate when they say they are 100% cured or it is 100% gone, I feel for them to be pushed out into the public while going through a horrid thing.
I am sure she has had some hard times and will have more. A double mast. is hard in her line of business. She made an informed decision.
Christina is putting on her Game face I am sure. Her 'people' probably coached her on that. Hollywood is horrible folks on women and body types and image.
Lets cut her a break.
just my opinion.
Janis
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Actually the Enquirer is a goood resource for cancer. They use one of the leading cancer experts for their cancer stories.I think there is some reluctance to use his name because of the Enquirer's reputation, but I know and it is for real. Beth
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Just to add another two cents...
I was really surprised at the hostile and judgemental tone of some of the posts. It is impossible to know any one person's full story from watching a brief interview or reading an article in a tabloid or even a more "objective" source. I would hope that we could support those who are dealing with breast cancer--regardless of the stage, form, personal history, or celebrity status.
I may "only" have DCIS (my surgery is scheduled for 9/12) but I've had two months of diagnostic tests, an ultrasound, a stereotactic biopsy, an MRI, and two MRI-guided core-needle biopsies. I just found out yesterday that my last two biopsied areas were benign and I broke down and cried--the emotional release was so intense. I'm lucky in that I "just" need a lumpectomy and maybe some radiation. I know I am VERY fortunate, but the stress and fear and emotional turmoil that I've experienced over the last two months is not "minimal." I did not know for sure until yesterday that I did not have something more serious and invasive than "just" DCIS and have been researching my options and planning for various scenarios.
I understand that Christina Applegate was diagnosed months ago (if that media report is correct) and I can emphathize with what she must have gone through. Everyone who posts on this board can understand that, I'm sure. I know that anger and frustration are common emotions when dealing with a cancer diagnosis, but I hope we can refrain from directing that anger at others dealing with that diagnosis--regardless of the exact form it takes.
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Fitchick and Gayle G: WELL said.
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I am not questioning Christina's judgment, nor am I passing judgment on her BC experience. What upsets me is that she said she "knows" she will not die of BC.
The chances of mets after a bilateral are no different than after a lumpectomy. It's that simple. Whoever you want to blame - her, her press people, or the media in general - they are perpetuating the notion that BC is curable, which we all know too well, is absolutely not true.
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US magazine, and one other rag is saying that Christina is putting chemo off to havea baby too......I believe like you that she is doing this before she has her ooph too.....I feel sorry for Christina Applegate....She is a beautiful lady and has the nasty luck of being in the spotlight as an actress inHollywood....If she were just a plain Jane like the rest of us (not saying we are plain we are all beautiful) instead of a starlet we would probably never hear of her diagnosis.....let's just pray for her as we would any of our BC sister....and hope the best for her as we would for ourselves.......
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Hmmm makes me wonder if I have the right to consider what I have been through as a battle because even though I have done the "full course" (2 different neoadjuvant chemo regimens, lumpectomy, another chemo, rads and still on hormone therapy), I have never had any major side effects??? I was fine and energetic enough to work full time along with too many extra hours even when I was on chemo. I have never really suffered, can't really relate to most of what most of you have been through, I don't really think of "what-if's". Does that mean I shouldn't call what I did a battle? Actually that's why I always had to question myself if I was really qualified to offer my opinion or talk about my experiences.
Everyone is different and I don't think it's something we should compare. JMO.
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I wish I could have thought like her. It would have made the last few years easier.
My mom says we are all cured (she had bc too). I am just wondering, if we are, why the heck am I going in every 3-4 months to see my onc???
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After reading about her interview and getting the real story, I'm feeling much better. One, she took drastic action (as so many of us have) and in Hollywood, where looks are everything, I give her a lot of credit for that. Two, she truly has been going through this for longer than 2 weeks and while I'm sorry for her, I'm relieved that the media screwed up the timeline.
I still hate the "cured" statements and don't think she should be a spokesperson and use that term. If she wants to use it to make herself feel better, that's great, but to use it in any medical sense is just sending out misinformation.
Anyway, thanks to everyone for posting all of the "real" information behind the "story."
Erica
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I agree with blue. We are all different. I even read a post awhile back on this site that one woman considered herself 100% cured. Think how hard it must be to deal with this in the public light? People constantly asking questions wanting to know every little thing. Yes, she is a celebrity but that doesn't mean we own her or her feelings. She is probably coping the best way she can. Her mother has also battled breast cancer. And a double mastectomy may have been a devastating decision for her as it is most women. She is still a B/C sister. She might even be lurking somewhere on these boards. Even if she is not handling her situation the way some of us feel she should be handling it lets not be so hard on the woman. And let's not forget the media twists things, maybe Christina is trying to put on a happy face but maybe its her way of getting through it. Also, she is not responsible for the way people think.
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I personally would like to wake up every morning and believe I am cured then wake up in fear every morning. I choose to live. Christina does not owe anyone anthing on how she is coping or feeling about having cancer. I believe we should pray for her to be well just like we do for ourselves and each other. She did not ask to be a spokes person for breast cancer. She too was attacked just like each of us. Turn the negative into some positive and support and wish each other as well as Christina well...that is what we each do very well !!!
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If there's a guide out there on how to react to a BC diagnosis and how to discuss it in the media, I'd be interested to read it. Otherwise, let's cut her her some slack.
I admire her tremendously for coming out and talking about her decision to have a bilateral mastectomy and explaining that she was BRCA1 positive. Having a bilateral is not an easy decision for anyone to make; imagine how difficult it would be for someone who makes their living in Hollywood, where appearance is everything and the paparazzi are always looking for that embarrassing shot. And being known as the actress who had a bilateral mastectomy probably won't do much for her career. So let's give her a break. I'm sure that many of us have altered the way that we've talked about our cancer, our treatment and our prognosis, depending on the audience. Personally I don't mention the "no nipple, no sensation" issue to too many people. It's a little personal, not something I want to share with just anyone. So for a public audience, she is presenting a brave face, talking about the perky reconstructed breasts that are in her future and saying that her doctors said that she is cured. That's a good message for the public - it wouldn't help her career much if casting agents and audiences were always wondering if she's about to have a recurrence or thinking "she's the one with no nipples". The fact is that we'll never know how she actually feels deep inside but I'll bet she carries the same fears that we all do, despite what our doctors may say and despite what we may say publicly.
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I saw the same article and had to right a comment saying that I don't believe she really understands the full extent of the Breast Cancer. Plus the article stated she was BRAC 1 positive. I am sort of wondering if anyone is really giving her the information she really needs to now about bc. Like you may have to have a hysterectomy and freeze your eggs, and how it can come back I don't know if it's just denial or people are not telling all the facts. Lets hope that at least maybe Farrah Fawcett will talk to her as she seems to be clueless about this disease, and that it bad.
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Sorry my typing is really bad.
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Omigosh, I can only imagine what a huge decision it was for Christina to choose the bi-lat...she's young and beautiful and, to some, a sex symbol...! It shows strength of character and courage (as it does for anyone who makes this choice).
My hats off to her and I wish her well in her journey...having a child...and any future treatment she needs to end this battle!
JMHO
Peggy
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I felt that whoever told her that she was cured because she had a double mastectomy was not giving her correct information. She has a strong family history and as we all know even though you have the breasts removed there is always the possibility that a stray cell can get away and none of us ever knows if we are cured. I was really shocked at the whole story. I was especially surprised that a young woman of her age range was not going to be given chemo. Like others have said maybe we don't have the whole story?
Barb
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The interview was good. I'm glad they caught it early. BUT, cured?
She used the wrong medical terminology when she said MRIs can see "cells." Not true as far as I know. Sure, they MAY pick up small cancers. However, it missed one of mine after chemo. I had neoadjuvant chemo. Ater that I had an MRI to see how much the tumor shrunk. I could have chosen a lumpectomy. However, the other tumor did not show. The radiologist was trying to come up with ways we could find out. I said, never mind. I want a mast. So, not always does an MRI pick up a tumor. That particular tumor was 1 cm.
Since she said she chose NOT to do chemo and rads I'm under the impression that she had more than DCIS. It sounded like an option she opted out of. And, with most very, very small tumors chemo isn't used.
I didn't know squat about BC until I received the gift. I do wish someone would do a show on the different types of bc. It sure would have helped me. I don't blame her for not wanting to talk more about her personal life dealing with this disease. She has seen enough watching her mom go through so much. But, it sure would help people to get educated. Hmmm...no one would probably watch the show but us who already know ALMOST everything there is to know.
One last thought. Don't be so hard on some of the women who have posted on this thread. Each one of us have been dealt this card. Some of the ladies here are still angry and scared. All of us have been dealt the bc card, and each of us react differently. Each person has a right to speak her mind and how she's dealing with this journey. I believe we are ALL happy that C. Applegate's bc was found early. Heck, I went every year for my mammo and sometimes had ultrasounds. I found my bc nine months after one of my mammo...I even had a good breast exam by my gyn the day I had my mammo. My cancer was large and I had positive nodes. So, yeah, I was mad because the mammo didn't pick up my cancer. I wasn't young, but my breasts were still dense.
It was a good interview, but I still think things need to be corrected..such as MRIs and cancer cells UNLESS I'm wrong.
Shirley
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She has probably been on this site just like the rest of us. I sure hope she did not read all the negative comments about her. How truly sad that would be.
She is one of us now no matter how she wants or has to deal with it because of her celebrity status. Send her hugs and prayers just like we do everyone else.
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Very well said BMD. She was relaying her experience and her doctor's opinion. She's not a spokesperson for the disease.
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I have the utmost respect for this woman who went on national television, just weeks from her double mast, with her obviously flat chest not at all hidden, and looked beautiful and cheerful and positive. I could never have done that.
How many of us knew then what we know now after sharing and learning on these boards? I know I certainly did not know a sono from a mammo from an MRI or PET/CT. Or stages or grades or DCIS from IDC from IBC.
And I am sure she is going through the stages of grief in losing her breasts, as we all do--denial, bargaining, etc.
My prayers go out to her for a comfortable reconstruction and healing.
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Its not easy...we put on our "brave" face when we run into someone...She has had her share of battles w/ her mother...now being positive for the BRCA gene is by all means no easy picnic. As you all know...BC changes your LIFE. Her cancer...perhaps gone forever...but it is forever etched on her/our minds.
Its so ironic...as I sat in the Rad Onc. office reading about her MOTHERS cancer and how Christina now gets monitored...I thought to myself " Its a matter of time " and now look....she has been diagnosed..thankfully early but like OneBadBoob put it, she STILL had to go through the "waiting period"
What if she would have been fearful/scared/crying in front of the media...what kind of impact would she have on society then ? We would all loose faith.
She is sadly, one of our sisters....
Much LUV
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I know that surgery, rads and reconstruction are not fun, but I think that chemo was the real killer. You feel bad, look bad and it's that way for months at a time. Soooo, I always bristle when I hear people lamenting about how horrible radiation is or how terrible their surgery was and I think "are you serious"? Try chemo and being bald for 6 or 8 months. Try having your mouth bleed everytime you brush your teeth. Try having constipation so bad you bleed there too. Try feeling so tired that you literally can't raise your head up. Try feeling cut off from the world because your WBC count is low and they might make you sick. Again, I am not discounting that surgery and rads are no cake walk, but come on, chemo is in a class by itself.
Don't mean to preach, Shannon
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