John Edwards
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The woman JE had the affair with went to high school here in my hometown in Florida. Her father was a VERY infamous character in the Thoroughbred industry. She even changed her name from Lisa Druck............ here's today's paper on the subject! Her father was responsible for murdering horses and scamming the insurance companies!
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If Hillary knew about all this, she would have dropped the dime long ago, long before John could take away those delegates and hand them to Obama on a silver platter.
We're finding out a little more, the girl was still in the picture when he announced he would run. Sick guy. And it never ended, he saw her 4 times this year alone, at the same hotel, so he wants to get caught. Then he comes out right before the convention. I guess I don't think like a sleaze because I still don't know what to make of all this and its timing implications.
Edwards delegates should be up for grabs now. I won't be surprised if they don't have a roll-call vote for Hillary since there might be loose hostile delegates running around.
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Marsha, Thanks for the link about the floosie. The story about her father is just sickening. To torture animals like that. . . what kind of a family did she come from? It is really upsetting to read about what he did.
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The story was sickening. What sick people! Shysters! These are the type of attorneys that give law abiding attorneys bad names!
Shirley
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Yogi said:
"But we all must remember that even with all the advancements in technology, medicene and science, human nature has never, and will never change. Never. There have always been cheating politicians. There will always be. There have always been bigots and racists. There will always be. Murderers, rapist, crooks, thieves are no more prevalent than they have always been because of unchanging human nature."
And there will always be muckrakers and the people who love to palaver over the scum they dredge up! I hope that most of us are intelligent enough to regard most of what the National Enquirer publishes as tripe, engineered, photoshopped, innuendo and malicious stories with only one purpose!
My 2nd husband cheated on me - and it was ugly and I was so flippin' stupid I believed him when he denied it. But - the matter was between the two of us!!! This is between John and Elizabeth Edwards. My impression of the "other woman" was that she was doing everything she could to seduce him - and could her incentive have been big $$??
The truth of the whole matter is that what happens in the private lives of people in this country isn't private any more. The sector of the public that lusts over reading the private matters of public people show very little class - $14 million for baby pictures? Front page pictures of the cellulite of STARS???? Who gives a rat's rosy hind end. I feel very sorry for Elizabeth Edwards and their children. But, as my doctor told me many years ago - you have to make a list; good things and bad things. If the bad list is longer the the good list, leave. This is now their decision. The other woman and her entourage have been well paid - and if a certain segment of society would just quit smearing it around maybe the price wouldn't have been so high - for everyone concerned.
Now, certain that I've managed to tick off everyone here I'll shut the F up and go cook dinner.
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Harborwitch, you have the right to your say. Translated...you have the right to state your feelings.
However, as I see it, JE and EE are no longer privy to not being scrutinized. They made a choice...a choice to run for the highest PUBLIC office of this nation. Their lives should be scrutinized and looked under a microscope. I, for one, want to know ALL about them. After all, this man could have been running this nation. And I'm sure if Bush has cheated on his wife the Enquirer would be the first one to report it. Yes, they're out to sell magazines. But anyone who is stupid enough who is in the limelight and having an affair is just plain stupid! Oh, and the latest rumor is JE was lying when he told his wife he cheated on her. The rumor is she asked HIM about it and he admitted to it. I cannot imagine this man going to his wife and saying, Honey, I had an affair. Please forgive me. Call me a cynical straggler. 
And when this all dies down it WILL be forgotten. Geez, I've already forgotten that Bill didn't have sex with THAT woman. And that was supposed to be a personal thing while he did the unsex with THAT woman while on the job IN the OVAL OFFICE! How many people do you know that can have sex with a woman with whom they work while ON THE JOB? I betcha they'd be fired. It's not a private personal act. And I expect moral integrity UNTIL they get out of the WH or off the Hill.Shirley
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and I bet that was an ice cream stain on the dress of a certain person that did not have sex at work with her boss. I think it was referred to as the cigar incident ROFL
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Well, EE's family is doing a tell-all in People magazine ... apparently he didn't confess UNTIL he was confronted by EE .. soooooo he is still a liar. He was sorry he was caught. So, like Bill Clinton, this guy would never come clean about any scandal until there was a reason.
Where I work, if you don't come clean before THEY find out, you are liable to lose your job. I mean, if they find out that you tried to cover something up, you're done. So many things happen in business and mistakes happen. If you can be the one to raise your hand and ask for help, your reputation stays clean. I think the same thing with a marriage and even the presidency. Mistakes will happen in the Administration, it's best to admit where we all stand and what we can do to fix it.
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What is it with these men once they get a little power? Do they do this just because as Clinton said "I can"? What amazes me is the arrogance to think it won't be found out. This is not the 60's when the media protected candidates' "outside activities" (i.e., Kennedy)...now the media is everywhere and they are looking for blood. I feel terrible for Elizabeth. Like she really needs this media scrutiny in her life now...sheesh!
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Rush Limbaugh is an ignorant blowhard who has problems of his own, and certainly should not be casting stones at ANYONE.
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Ann, I guess you missed the part of Rush saying that EE seems like a bright woman who probably talks a lot and maybe JE wanted a woman who would do something else to her mouth (insert Rush's lecherous laugh).
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First of all Rush was being sarcastic..........yes sometimes his humor is too extreme but if you find him offensive then don't listen to him............that is what makes this country great..........if you don't like something then change the channel, don't buy from their sponsors, but everyone has a right to his or her opinion............Rush is an entertainer.........plan and simple...........with that being said who knows what the union of Elizabeth and John Edwards is.........maybe it's more of a business arrangement like the Clinton's then it is a traditional marriage even though that is the image that John Edwards has promoted and run on in his political career............I think that part of John Edwards appeal has always been his wife............I have heard from many a Democrat that well John Edwards is ok but I sure do like Elizabeth...........I personally don't think he would have been as successful without her by his side...........I could be wrong but they sure do seem to make a good public image as a team............Shokk
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I was just referring to the "Breck Girl" nickname from years ago, which unfortunately summed up how JE always struck me, even though his political agenda on paper looked good to me!
I agree that EE always made me give JE the benefit of the doubt...
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Rush may be an entertainer but his snickering laugh and comment are inapropriate...
If people call others 'ho' or 'n...' or like in the music business 'b....' it is 'entertainment but of some sort that most people protest to....
Just sad!
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I'm extremely disappointed that EE authorized her family and friends to talk to PEOPLE magazine. Yes she's been hurt, but her kids are going to read that one day, if they don't read it right then. If she was a single mother, I wouldn't care one way or another. I';ve seen way too many kids torn apart by parents who aired their dirty laundry to their little children. One narcissistic father tried to explain to me it was his duty as a father to tell his kids (all under the age of 7) what a slut their mother was because she fell in love with someone while they were separated awaiting divorce. Divorce is less of a problem for kids than how the parents deal with it. Imagine having your parent's dirty laundry public.JE's affair was bad and he complicated it by lying to the public and the possible financial component of the affair/campaign. EE's "side" of the story is just gossip. I understand that's she's going through a lot of emotional turmoil, but that's no excuse for hurting her children. What JE did hurt his kids as well, and EE didn't need to compound that hurt. It seems spiteful to me and authorize her family and friends to speak for her seems passive aggressive.
I really hope JE didn't do anything that can land him in jail, particularly if EE's health takes a turn for the worse. Those kids and his adult daughter don't deserve to have to suffer any more than they do as a result of his affair. I also hope that JE can get his personal act together, because he has the potential to still help this country and for the sake of his kids. I don't think that having an affair makes him a bad person, just a bad husband. If he fell out of love with EE he could have filed for divorce or separation, even though she has mets.
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And let me say this............I am not going to judge Elizabeth Edwards and how she decides to handle this situation..............I just cannot even imagine the humiliation she must be feeling at this moment even if she knew about the affair for a couple of years........but I know one thing is for sure I would get all my "stuff" into a different location..........I simply could not stand the thought of "the other woman" going through my personal belongings after I was gone..........Shokk
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Shokk, I'm right with you on free speech and that Rush has a right to make fun of the situation and make what he considers jokes about it. Since I don't listen to the man and only saw a clip I didn't know what context he was speaking. That said, I also believe that free speech gives one the ability to make an ass out of himself. The reason I didn't care for his remark/joke is that it demeans women and I don't find it funny. Rush hasn't always walked the straight and narrows and you know what they say about people who live in glass houses.
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Amy we will have to wait and see about whether any laws were broken...............maybe his motivation was he didn't want to split his net worth with EE and was willing for her cancer to take care of this problem..............plus let's face it if he had filed for divorce his political career would be over at least on a National Level........even if he didn't reveal that he was in love with someone else...............having a wife for thirty years and then that wife having terminal cancer and then divorcing her..........even the Democrats would not want that handicap..........imo.........Shokk
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As far as Rush is concern I am a conservative and I can only take him in very small doses............as we get closer to the election in November I will probably start listening in on his program but then again I may not...........I very rarely listen to him...............Shokk
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I dunno about the money as a reason for staying with EE since EE has terminal cancer, her estate would likely go to their children and so will his when he dies. I've never been a money person, just let me have enough to pay my bills and a little extra so I can't understand that kind of greed and motivation.
I wouldn't have held a divorce against him because like I said before, you never know what goes on in a marriage and I wouldn't necessarily have blamed him for the divorce. I still wouldn't because I think it takes 2 people to make or break a marriage. Then again, there's not much that is legal that would prevent me from voting for someone I liked, but I draw the line at law breaking. IMHO the prez should be the role model for abiding the law in a country. I don't see how laws can be enforced if the top gun isn't following them (which is why I agreed to the impeachment of bill clinton). Speaking of double standard, did you see bush dodge the question about pardoning Marion Jones since Scooter Libby was found guilty of the same thing and isn't serving time? that's the kind of double standard I don't like, one goes to jail, the other does, not selective punishments for lying to a grand jury.
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I don't think just because he had an affair and didn't disclose it is reason that his political life should be over. He lied about sex and if the media and public wasn't so fixed on delving into the sex lives of politicians and celebrities, the way it is in europe, this would merely be a blip in the radar. I forget the French former presiden't name who had his wife and mistress show up at his funeral and the current French president married his younger lover. In the US a president or candidate would be skewered by conservatives and even some liberals when sexual fidelity to me has nothing to do with leadership. I agree that the lie was the worst part of the whole thing, but I don't think that erases his years of service and good works.
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You are forgetting there is a $$ scandal here also, what is with these $15,000 monthly payments? Where did that money come from? Kind of convenient that this comes to light with the affair. The affair doesn't bother me as much as he might be dipping into funds that people donated to run a campaign. I know that is not proven yet but come one the media makes you look guilty before innocent and once slaughtered by the media it is a tough thing to recover from. Then throw in the fact he is having an affair and possible love child while his wife has mets, talk about hitting below the belt. Not sure someone like that has the integrity I would want from someone in a political office. At least with Clinton we knew he was unfaithful from the get go, we knew what we were electing into office.
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There is a scandal, but so far no evidence of any crime or knowledge on Edward's part. I'm not saying I believe he's innocent of financial wranglings, just that I don't want to convict him prematurely of anything but what he has proven. To me EE's mets have nothing to do with how I feel about the situation. It appears that the baby was conceived before the mets, which is a technicality, but to me it means that we can't use the "poor woman with mets...." argument since she wasn't dx at the time. I'm not saying being NED means it's ok to cheat or that he wouldn't have cheated if she had mets or that the cheating isn't bad because she appeared to be cancer free at the time. I guess for me I never thought breast cancer should mean people should treat me differently or better or handle me with kid gloves because of the cancer.
if he dipped into campaign funds or someone dipped into those funds on his behalf that's criminal and should be investigated prosecuted to the fullest extent-- not like the scooter libby taking the fall for the bush administration outing Valerie Plame...
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Another aspect to the money scandal, IMO, is that with virtually no experience Rielle Hunter was hired at more than $100,000 in 2006 to make videos - "webisodes" - for JE's campaign (with no worthwhile footage ever being produced). From what I am reading, this did not sit well with a lot of his campaign staff. Understandably. To me, that is further obvious evidence of terrible judgment/management on JE's part, which IS the public's business if he's seeking the office of Chief Executive!
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I read on my computer a small piece from People's Mag. It said that EE encouraged JE to tell the truth. I believe it took a huge burden off her shoulders.
I would like to know what "good stuff" JE has done. Let's see...he got Father of the Year.
I need to go over his biography.
A liar is a liar. It is what it is..or is it...he is what he is..A LIAR! It's extremely hurtful when infidelity creeps into a marriage. And it's not something you ever forget. I've seen it happen way to many times. And that's not even taking into account that this man was running for president, and his life is like an open book. And, I'm glad Americans hold our elected officials to a higher standard that the Europeans do.
Shirley
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A couple of things: Heard an NE editor on one of the news shows and he was asked if JE was "warned" before these stories appeared. He said yes on two occassions: The NE requested an affadavit about the affair - and it did not arrive. Another time the NE requested that JE take and pass a lie detector test - he did not take it. He and his lawyers knew that the NE was snooping around and had knowledge of the affair, but JE & lawyers did not do anything to stop the presses.
Regarding EE's cancer recurrance - she, with her husband by her side, announced the sad news in March '07 for all the world to hear. That announcement generated roughly 60,000 emails to the JE site on EE's email (on that site.) Those 60K+ people then received a solicitation email from the campaign asking for donations for JE's presidential run. How many of those 60,000 that actually gave a donation is unknown at this time.
Then there was the "charade" of renewing their wedding vowels in July '07 (the same month the mistress became pregant). Good Morning America did a segment on this and Diane Sawyer almost had tears in her eyes.
What gives with these people - the whole bunch of them!!!
John Edwards had prior knowledge that the NE would run with this story.
EE knew of the affair but still encouraged her husband to contune running for president and then renewed their wedding vowels in a ceremony that was later broadcast.
And then ALL the lawyers involved apparently sat back and waited for this to explod???
Now, NO ONE is speaking publicly. Why is that?
I smell a television movie and a few books in the works.
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I just read an article that said his aide or whatever this guy was and the mistress are in hiding in CA, which the move was 100% funded by JE money. The person that paid the money with or without JE knowledge said he felt bad they were being hounded and gave them the money to run away. What the heck did they do with all they other money they got???? This whole thing smells bad to me.
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I am one of those people who sent EE an email when I heard of her mets DX. I didn't expect a response or anything, but it really chapped my a$$ to find at least an email a day from the JE campaign (and sometimes as many as 3 emails a day) begging for money. I always thought the guy was sort of slimy anyway.
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LuAnn the problem is now is how is he going to stop paying her?..............Now don't forget the JE is an extremely wealthy man without his campaign donations.........I think he can support her with his own money but with that said I truly believe she has found the cash cow..............or bull..........how ever you want to look at it...............but I don't believe he will ever be able to live down the shame.......I know Amy feels like he will get past this politically but I'm not so sure..............I still believe that Bill Clinton's shenanigans is what has cost Hillary the Democrat nomination........I think the bigwigs of the Democrat Party are tired of Bill Clinton..........there were rumors that even on Hillary's campaign trail he was dating extensively..............and I think Bill knew............I think that is why he has been so angry.............he thought it didn't matter after all it was only sex but it does looks like it matters and I think for Edwards it's going to matter as well............jmo.............Shokk
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So does that make JE a hypocrit for not giving hillary his support if that were true about bill?
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