John Edwards

Blue willow I agree with you.  Some men just can't be faithful.  My first husband (the father of my 2 kids) had affair after affair.  I would forgive, sell the house, move and start over and even had a new house built, lived in it one week, he said he was going to wash the new car we had just bought and didn't come back for days, come to find out he thought he had fallen in love with a much younger woman ( We had just had a baby 6 weeks before)  That was the final straw,  He ended up marrying her and she cheated on him and even got preg. by someone else and had an abortion and they divorced.  My husband now (married again at 40) is a very wonderful man and I would trust him with my life.  So I do know how Elizabeth feels and the public humiliation is going to make it much worse.

One of the talking heads said today that it was not only the finish of John Edwards in politics but a finish for Elizabeth Edwards.  I hope not.  He was my first choice for president, mainly because he was the first to call for mandated universal health care.  I'm quite sure this was because of advice from Elizabeth Edwards.  And he was also the first I gave money to, also because of Elizabeth Edwards, when she took on that blonde Democrat baiter  (can't remember her name, which is good as she seems to have disappeared lately).  I wonder how many other women who were supporting John Edwards were really supporting his wife?  I know I was.

I hope very much that Elizabeth Edwards gets a prominent position in the next administration, perhaps Health, Education, and Welfare.  Is it still called that? or am I showing my age?  I also hope she gets through this very painful time stronger than ever.  I admire her greatly.

I agree member...when it comes to public office - ALL aspects of your character are subject to public scrutiny. That's part of the deal. EE should not be mad at the public, the newspapers or reporters..she should be mad and HIM and his nasty a** co-hort. Still, she is in a tough position and my heart goes out to her for having to endure this at all let alone in the public eye.

I rarely post about heated or controversial issues, but my view in this case is rather "non-partisan," I think. This entire thing just breaks my heart. I had my reservations about Edwards as president, but liked many of his ideas and political opinions. And, of course, I'm a HUGE fan of Liz's. This re-opening of the wound has got to be so very painful for her! In fact, I just saw the news report of her statement in response and all I can say is that she has risen even more in my estimation. She is a strong, loyal, loving and courageous woman. Huh, ya know, maybe she IS a freakin' saint! Probably not, but she sure is an inspiration to me. Him? I just feel very sorry for him....

~Marin

MOTC,

I agree whole heartedly....EE blames the media....wrong!!!!!! Her hubby did the cheating. How can she support this di** who cheated on the country she loves so much? and yes, he did cheat on the country too.

As a matter of fact, it would be justice if all his campaign contributers would start a class action suit to get their funds back  (just kidding.....or maybe not).

If what was told by the Enquirer dude tonight is true, a lot of money had been going to the mistress who lives without a job in a multi million house, she had been visited at least twice by JE since the birth....I bet my silicone boobs on the fact that he is the father!!! 

LuAnn,

talk about Karma....he admits to not love the object of his desire.....so why would she want him? Money or Politics....must be...it's said to be a aphrodisiac (sp?).

Gosh, I am sick to my heart for EE, but I really don't understand her....I see a mother figure rather than a wife in her.....nurturing a spoiled little boy....again.....and I say again since I read somewhere back then when he was 'running' that she build him up and managed everything....what a loser....Elisabeth, go get yourself a real man!!! You sure deserve one!!

I'm with livestrong.................. DOUBLE SCUMBAG!!!!

Nico

Elizabeth spoke at a dinner benefitting a DC center for grief and healing.

Everyone in the bi-partisan audience was awed by her courage, faith, honesty,

and optimism as she related the story of coping with her son's death.

I imagine her thoughts and loyalty lie with her children, and her concern

is for their future. What a sad situation! John described himself quite well today.

Varmint!!!

Shirely, of course there are two sides to your example of the brother-in-law. Why did his wife tolerate him hating fat people when she was fat? I'm sure him leaving her for the skinny woman wasn't the first time he expressed this preference. Her side of the story may be he left her because she was fat, but he also has a side in the story and there was more going on than just her side. Even if he said, I cheated because you're fat and she's skinny, there's still more to the marriage and the story.

Flyrz...as far as I know, this is not a dem thread, and I do not go on the dem thread (or the thread Amy started) so my comment is really none of your business, if you don't like it, don't comment. You don't own these boards nor does Amy or Bancroft and Amy you are a fine one when it comes to name calling and judging others for their comments...read back on the crap you posted to Shirley. My dislike for O has nothing to do with bigotry and if that is all you can come up with perhaps you might want to go back to class and learn more about bigotry/racism. Did it ever occur to you that a person's dislike for another person might be just that and have nothing to do with bigotry/racism? Perhaps you might want to take a closer look at yourself and find out why you take a comment and immediately slap bigotry on it...unresolved feelings?

Amy, my bil did not openly say that to all the family.  My fil and mil told me MANY times, Mike doesn't like fat women.  We allowed him to stay in our house when he left my sil.  My husband told him not to tell him anything because if they went to court my dh had to tell the truth.  We knew where he was going and that he was talking to "someone" who we had not met.  My sil came flying over here one night accusing us of "supporting" him.  I had to calm her down and explain that no, we were not.  She had caught him at the house of this person with whom he told her he was not having sex with and was just sleeping on the couch.  Anyway, my dh had to ask him to leave.  We had three daughters who did not like comments (and racial ones to) that he would make.  One of our very good newscasters is a black woman.  He would say things about her that was not kind right in front of my children.

This bil left his home the day before or the day of (can't remember) of is oldest daughter's high school graduation.

I can tell you that having family gathers at Christmas and/or Thanksgiving was very hard.  We had to accept the other woman.  All is well now after many years.

Again, like I said.  Dr. Phil says, finish one relationship before you start another.  Either get counseling..work on your marriage and if that doesn't work get a divorce before messing around with another person.

As far as the "Obamasiah" (sp) name..it's not racial.  It is about politics and how some people see him....this man who has come to save the world.  You really have to keep up with politics to "get" this.

Since Edwrards told "99% truth," I hope the 1% he lied about..the baby..the continuance of seeing this woman..why he saw the woman in July...and making sentences like Shokk..I like it..it's easier...is true.  What I said above with all the .....is I hope the 1% truth he told is true.  I hope this baby isn't his.  I hope he really didn't know about the money.  His explanation of why he saw her in July wasn't very good.  Perhaps since she thinks one day he'll marry him she's really upset and NEEDED to see him.  I mean, she sounds like a nut job.  I don't like the CHEATEES!

It takes a very long time to work through infidelity.  It's sort of like having PTSD.  One can have flash backs which starts the pain over again although it doesn't last long. I've seen to much of this.  And when one's in politics there lives are an open book. 

For the children's sake and for EE's sake I hope they can get through this once again.  I so hope he's now telling the full truth.  EE and their children do not need to be hurt any more.

Oh, and one interesting thing he mentioned...John McCain..in his interview with Nightline.  I thought that was a big political statement.  Without him going into details he had to mention McCain's name to remind us of his affair.  But he didn't mention the President of the United States, Bill Clinton, for his sex affair that wasn't sex.  So, that made me mad.  Does he think we're stupid or something.  Does he want attention brought to McCain for his cheating days.  Although I do not think it was right that McCain did what he did, he wasn't running for office at the time.  And he wan't IN office.  Politics as usual.  McCain's statement about this situation is, I have no statement to make.

I've rambled on too long.

Shirley

Paulette, don't you know we repubs are the ONLY one's who do the name calling?  The dems and the Obamamaniacs never say any negative thing about we who are repups.  Yes, we are the guilty ones.

Shirley

Shirley...it just gets REALLY old! If you say up it's down, if you say left it's right, if you say nothing it's something, if you say something, it's nothing...and always you are a racist or a bigot...SSDD!

Shirley, I absolutely agree with finishing one relationship before starting another. I hesitate to believe EVERYTHING that the national enquirer said just because they were right about the affair because the rag has been wrong about so many things and they do tend to exaggerate when they are right about something.  The Enquirer was right about more than one percent, but that doesn't make them right about 99%.

i don't think we can believe a friend of a friend who said Reille was waiting in the wings for Elizabeth to die. Even if that's true, would she have really said that and would the friend really have repeated it. Is the "friend" really a friend.  I don't blame Reille for the affair, she wasn't the one who was married, even though I don't respect that she slept with a married man (or men).

No republicans come to mind Paulette, what about Larry Craig's wide stance . I say this half in jest because I think that type of entrapment is wrong and disagree with how he was caught. I'm not going to list the republicans because I don't think it's a partisan issue and I don't care that the people you mentioned were democrats. I didn't take your comments as partisan, just as 2 blatant presidential examples.

Whoever said Obamesiah was a racial comment? it's name calling and I won't stoop to that. It is possible to talk about politicians without slinging mud. McCain was wise not to comment because of his past even though it was long ago and because of the not so distant rumors. BTW, I was the first democrat on these threads to say that McCain's previous marital issues had no business in this election. Most of the republicans here probably missed that. Politicians sex lives should be private, unless they are with minors or nonconsentual. The USA is one of the only developed countries that pay so much negative attention to the sexual lives of politicians. Europe had a great laugh over the Lewinski debacle and I'm sure they're laughing now at how judgmental people are doing. I judge the lie to the public, not the public sex.

One thing that's not political about the situation that's bugging me is that Elizabeth's health is being used to make Edwards' infedility seem worse. Breast cancer has nothing to do with how I see the situation, unless he was skipping her chemo appointments to have his liaisons or something similar.

Amy, I was going to mention that I bet the Europeans were laughing at us about our intense dislike of this behavior.  Ya know what?  I don't give a FLIP what the Europeans think.  This is OUR country, not their's.  I hope our country never reaches the level of accepting such low moral values.  Yes, it's a moral judgment.  And it's not only politicians or ordinary people, but it's in the pulpits too which makes me really, really angry.  Too many people get hurt.  It's wrong no matter how you look at it. I know what my vows were.  If one is not going to take that vow seriously, then, IMO, don't get married.

"For better or for worse, in sickness and health" makes us angry even more for EE.  I don't care about her politics, but I care about her feelings.  I care that she is probably hurt deeply knowing that she has a serious illness, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS IN REMISSION, and he'd cheat on her.  Yep, there's other people out there and on these very boards that have had this happen to them when they were going through a devastating illness and it INFURIATES most people with normal feelings. 

I don't think we should, as a society, get so "used" to the idea that, well, it happens to the best of us.  Or, that it's OKAY.  It's not okay.  There goes our moral decline in this nation.

I do believe we should "forgive" people for their indiscretions.  However, this type of behavior should never be acceptable.  I hope we NEVER become like the Europeans if that's how they think about infidelity.  JMO

Shirley

I didn't realize that EE had had fertility treatments. I have heard others say that they thought their BC was caused by this. I just cannot understand how she could back him for pres. for the past 2 years, knowing he had cheated. And "the Breck girl" as Rush would say, has always seemed like an egomaniac to me, so his behavoir is not surprising. As much as I feel deeply sorry for his wife, I just willl never in  a million years understand why women stay with cheaters. I would have been more supportive of Hillary if she had given Bill the boot, and I feel the same for EE. He should have been home taking care of her, not parading himself around like some prima dona. He is disgusting!!!!

And yeah Republicans do the same thing, but no one makes excuses for them, even in their own party. They are treated like pariahs right away, as they deserve to be. Meanwhile the dems get reelected and everyone makes excuses. The press gives them the soft glove treatment. A bum is a bum!! I hope he rots in hell!