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shokk
shokk Member Posts: 1,763

Oh holy cow............so now Edwards is now admitting to his affair but he is making the excuse that when he started the affair his wife Elizabeth was in remission from her breast cancer........WTH?..........so let me get this straight.........its ok to have an affair as long as your wife is NED but he would not have started the affair at the time if she had been stage IV...........oh please............crap I feel sorry for Elizabeth...........and she has know about the relationship since 06.............that is just so sad...........Shokk

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  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited August 2008

    Hey Ivy,

    This sucks big time. I can't believe I held him in such high regard. My hearats goes out to Elizabeth.

    Ebby

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited August 2008

    Oh damn, I've heard it here first -- and not yet anywhere else -- but that totally f***ing sux.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I heard he'll be on Nightline tonight.

    Did you really think that his hiding in the bathroom was a bit suspicious.  And as the Enquirer reported (I don't buy that mag) he took the elevator FROM the basement.  Why?  And now there's some reports about "hush money" that he says perhaps some of his friends, supporters..whatever...may have given this woman money.  PUULLLEASE!  Why was he in that hotel the night the Enquirer caught him.  I think he's got somemore 'splaming to do.

    I was thinking about how many MEN politicians have affairs.  Can anyone name women who do this?  Are men animals? 

    Now his wife has to relive this crap.  And, be embarrassed by it.  If anyone knows about a cheating spouse IT HURTS LIKE HELL!  It's like someone but a knife in your heart and turned it very slowly.  And it the pain doesn't go away in a few days.  Now, here she goes again!

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited August 2008

    Shirley they are reporting that there is hush money involved............he is denying he knew anything about it but come on........he has been denying the whole affair and we are suppose to believe that he had supporters that had her living a very nice homes in North Carolina and on the west coast but he didn't know..............and if the affair was over then why is he visiting her in the hotel and appears to be visiting with the child...........if anyone want's to read the first reports came out on www.abcnews.com Shokk

  • ADK
    ADK Member Posts: 2,259
    edited August 2008

    There were a few ladies on these boards that felt squeamish about John Edwards when he was running for president because of the way they interpreted his treatment of Elizabeth.  I guess you were all correct.  This is sad, I hope it dies down quickly for Elizabeth's sake.  She doesn't deserve this crap.  

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited August 2008

    I didn't trust him when he was our senator. He spent more time running for president than he did acting as senator.

    Sheila

  • livesstrong
    livesstrong Member Posts: 1,799
    edited August 2008
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited August 2008

    I was just going to post this.  I admit that I was surprised, but if Elizabeth has worked through this when him, then it's not really anybody's business, in my opinion. I hope that they got counseling and she didn't just "stand by her man". John and Elizabeth seemed to have a close relationship but I guess appearances can be deceiving. I feel sorry for the kids, especially the little ones having to hear this garbage on the news.

    Shokk if you're right about hush money, then i will lose all respect for him. Having an affair is one thing, but going to duplicitious means to cover it up borders on illegality, imho. I'm not proaffair, I admire loyalty respect people who tell the truth when confronted with their deception.  I just know that affairs are so complicated and it there's usually more than meet the eyes, examining things from a family systems perspective. I'm not willing write him off or malign him, what goes on in a marriage is usually multidimensional. In marriage counseling there's a theory that both people are responsible for the health of the marriage and there's usually not one who's 100% wrong/bad and another who's 100%/ right/good/

    I still like John Edwards, but if there turns out to be any funny business with campaign money and/or bribes I will lose most respect for him. There are 2 sides to every story and I bet that even if there was cheating from both sides John would protect Elizabeth-- but then again, maybe this is a case of Johnny, we hardly knew ye.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited August 2008

    I think it reflects more on his general character than on his life-role as the husband of a woman with metastatic cancer. Not to disparage lawyers, but he's a trial lawyer. That's like being a gun for hire. 

    I'm sure he loves his wife. I doubt this is the first idiotic-egotistical thing that he's ever pulled on her, which isn't to say that I excuse him. Just that I don't think that she should be cast in the role of martyr or saint. 

    How he could run for President with this kind of thing in his closet is pretty hard to understand. Did he think this could be kept secret?  

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    Sad, sleazy, --feel so bad for Elizabeth.  Politically, he's got to be finished.  How did he think this wouldn't come out if he was the nominee or VP prospect? 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Sheila, I'm fron N.C. also.  I never liked him.  He's too purtty!

    Shokk, I am NOT shocked!  LOL  And the "hush" money.  The trail will be found.

    Perhaps he will be no longer be invited to make mega bucks for his speeches.  He should go back to chasing ambulances.

    I really do feel sorry for Elizabeth Edwards.  They lose a child in a tragic accident.  She get breast cancer.  She gets breast cancer again...mets.  Her husband's a cheater.  It's not fair what these men do to their lives.  And she stood beside him when he announced that he again was running for prez when she was battling mets.  It makes me sick to death.  However, he's not the first man who's acted disgustingly.  But, that's not excuse.

    Shirley

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited August 2008

    Rose you're right about running for president and keeping this a secret. That's Clintonian narcissism. I agree with you in not casting her in the role of saint or martyr, I doubt she'd want that, she's too strong of a woman for that. If you're right that this affair is a pattern of egotistical things, then excusing the behavior repeatedly makes her part of the problem. I wonder if the affair was primarily sexual or there was also an emotional connection... I'm going to stay up and watch the interview for sure.

    IF he is the father of this child after he has denied so, that's gonna be the last straw for me. There's no excuse for denying paternity. EVER.

  • anneshirley
    anneshirley Member Posts: 1,110
    edited August 2008

    I agree with Rose.  How could he have gone ahead and made a run for president knowing this was in his background.  I would be very disappointed if Elizabeth Edwards knew of this and still supported him in making a run.   If he was the nominee and this came out during the general, it would have given the election to the Republicans. And there was talk of him being veep.  And this stuff always comes out.

    It's not Clinton narcissism; it's Edwards' narcissism.  I assume he didn't call Bill and ask his permission. 

    And I gave Edwards' campaign money! 

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited August 2008

    This story has been floating around for weeks and the major networks were sitting on it.  I wonder why Edwards decided to give an interview now?

  • ADK
    ADK Member Posts: 2,259
    edited August 2008

    Perhaps to make certain that he is not the VEEP candidate?

  • Calico
    Calico Member Posts: 1,108
    edited August 2008

    ....but hey...

    he didn't love the subject of his desire...it was just plain good f***** sex I guess!!! ....as in that justifies it..... 

    What a sick SOB.

    This could potentially hurt the Democrats even he is not the candidate 'thank G-d', but then I read that McCain left his 'ailing' wife when he got home from being a POW....

    What I don't get is if Elisabeth knew, why would she run for 'first lady' with mets going on instead of enjoying her kids, taking vacations etc.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Amy, you say there is always two sides to a story.  True. My brother-in-law didn't like fat women.  He left the fat one and married the skinny one.  I'm not naive enough to believe that was the only problem with thier marriage.  However, like Dr. Phil says, finish one relationship before you start on another.  Very wise.

    Shirley

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Roseg, my daughter is a trial lawyer and she has a lot of character.  It doesn't make any difference what profession you're in..cheating happens. 

    Shirley

  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited August 2008

    Calico,

    "he didn't love the subject of his desire" -- I know, that hit me too.  Bad enough his wife is humiliated in front of the whole world -- he has to add insult to the mistress on top of injury to his wife!  Like that REALLY makes it better... Undecided

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Calico .. I am with you, I don't get her "standing by her man" when she has mets, I would have Moved On .........  so I could have quality time.  When someone in the political arena has an affair, it comes out and that is soooos stressful.  If they just would've kept to a private life, she could spend real quality/relaxing time .. but we are not her ....  and obviously can't know her reasons for staying ...

    Shirl, I'm with you ... he's a purty one ...... and that's why I was SHOKKED when there were no new stories about him.  These politicos that have everything usually want it all without the price.

  • abinneb
    abinneb Member Posts: 550
    edited August 2008

    I just heard a reporter say that he said Elizabeth did not know of the affair.  That poor woman - and the kids.  Can't they think before they unzip?????

    Amy

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited August 2008

    First of all, the slap at trial lawyers was really uncalled for. I don't think we should be insulting entire professions on these boards.  I can imagine we have some breast cancer sisters who are trial lawyers.

     Second, I agree with everyone who says that the fact that he ran for president with this going on really is our business.  Had he been the democratic nominee and this had blown up, he would have handed the election to McCain (which i believe would not be a good thing).  And if he had actually been elected, or appointed to a high position by future President Obama, he would have been perfect bait for a blackmailer.  

     Plus, I totally bought the devoted husband thing.  Oh blech. 

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited August 2008

    Another one bites the dust. 

    I know that men (and women) of all backgrounds and professions cheat but it just seems so prevalent among male politicians.  I wonder if what drives the decision to cheat is the same thing that drives the desire to seek office - ego and/or arrogance and/or a need for power.  I'm not saying that most politicians don't have a desire to do something positive for their constituents - I'm sure that most do, but then so do so many others.  It's something in their character that makes them decide to take the extra step and become a politician.  I think that same character trait might make them think that it's okay for them to have an affair and that they are immune from getting caught.   And as a politician, they have the opportunity (lots of travel without their spouse, women who hang on their every word) and they've been conditioned to believe that they are "special".  If you take those who've cheated on their spouse and you add to it those who've cheated in some other way (kickbacks, for example), the percent seems pretty high.  Just some amateur psychology (yup, very amateur). 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I  just heard John's statement..that he confessed to his wife and children, that's he'd take a praternity test, that it was only for two months and then it was over, that he doesn't know anything about the "money stuff."  These are my words.  He's so, so, so sorry (FOR GETTING CAUGHT!).  My words again. LOL  Oh, and I think it was a coincidence that his ex-mistress was there...he was there to meet George McGovern...or someone else (can't remember).  Hmmmm...wonder why the strange behavior.  Of course I think the strange behavior was funny, but not for his family. 

  • lewisfamily503
    lewisfamily503 Member Posts: 621
    edited August 2008
    Just adding my two cents worth.  I really liked John Edwards, and I TOTALLY bought into his "family" values and how his wife and children were such an important part of his life.   Well, .....
    Bull sh*#  !!!!!!  

    I am SOOOO disillusioned and really angry.  He's just yet another in a long series of men who simply CANNOT keep it in their pants.  I guess I should feel sorry for Elizabeth, but I am betting this is just another in a series of liasons for this despicable man.  If she did know in 2006 as is being claimed, then she is a part of the cover-up.  Still, my heart goes out to her and her children.  As for Edwards, I think he can kiss his political life goodbye.  Oh, and one more thing:
    the woman he was with.......Rielle Hunter..........what a TOTAL loser!  Elizabeth is so much more attractive and gracious and just everything a woman should be!  There.....now I feel better.  Thanks for letting me vent, girls!

    Anne
  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited August 2008

    I don't normally comment on political stuff because it just doesn't motivate me to do so, but this is different!!!  I'm in North Carolina and I am embarrassed at this scum bag.  I'd like to kick him in the nuts, several times over.  I hope there's a special place in hell for him, and I'm pretty sure there is a special place in heaven for women like Elizabeth.  Damn, what some women have to go through.

    Sorry to be so graphic and outspoken.  I don't expect everyone to agree with me, and that's perfectly fine, but I sure feel better getting that off my chest.  I've been through the infidelity thing-- the hurt never heals.

    Mary Jo

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Shirely:  To Purtty?  Hahahahah that cracked me up.

    Nicki

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited August 2008

    I wish he would have been chosen by the Obamasiah as a running mate before it came out....other than that, SCUMBAG!

  • Bancroft
    Bancroft Member Posts: 37
    edited August 2008

    Obamessiah??????   Wishing him a bad VP pick.

    Calling John Edwards an ambulance chaser.

    Glad to see the right lives on in bc discussion boards!!!

    Hmm.  Gw in white house-= terroist attack on 9/11, Katrina, gas at $4.00, stock market in the tank, heating oil  going to hurt people, food prices hig and you still blame the democrats.

    guess you deserve what you get.

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited August 2008

    You know, I almost wish I had never like him. It would make this that much easier. I've been defending him to others ragging on him about this affair because the story originated with the National Enquirer. They are not exactly known for top notch journalism. I am just so saddened and disheartened by this. THANK GOD he is not the presumptive nominee!!!!  I would never in a million years vote for him now and I was a huge fan before. All this time I though Elizabeth was so lucky to have such a caring and supportive husband. I admired the way she stood up and said she wanted him to run in spite of her medical condition. I think she is an amazing woman and after this news, I have more respect for her than ever. I hope whatever happens in her marriage, that she is happy and loved and at peace with her situation. Forgiveness is not easy and I suspect John was lucky enough to receive it once, but apparently did not appreciate it enough to not do it again. What ever Elizabeth decides, I"ll respect. As everyone in a long term relationship knows, leaving is easy ~ staying and working it out is the hard part. Please be gentle in your judgements, you never know if she is going to read these posts.

    Paulette531....dems don't go on your respectfully republican board and trash ~ please keep your bigoted comments to yourself on the other boards. That is not the purpose of these threads.

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