Results of Genetic Test? Decision?
I just had genetic testing done. Surprisingly I am BCRA 2+. I had breast cancer in 2004. Had a left mastectomy and chemo and radiation. In 2005 I had reconstruction on the left breast in New Orleans. Now my oncologist wants to to remove the other breast and also my ovaries. I think I'm still in shock but don't know what to do. On top of everything else, my husband left me in 2006 for another woman so if I had the surgery I would be doing it alone this time. I'm not sure if I'm up to that. I also have three kids to think of ages 5, 9 and 16 to think of when making this deision. I was only 38 when dxed after giving birth to my youngest daughter. Has anyone else had to make these tough decisions.
Colleen
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Colleen --
I'm also BRCA2+. I had a lumpectomy. May have masectomies down the road, but am not ready for them now. I hope to have ovaries removed in next few months because a) the operation should be pretty straightforward with a quick recovery time and b) will reduce my chances of my ER+ cancer recurring or developing a new primary.
For me, two key factors in MY decision (just me, just the way I think! Not recommending this way of thinking to anyone else!) not to have masectomies were the fact that one, I am just not in the mood to go through major surgery and reconstruction -- I want to get ON with my life right now. Two, I'm still relatively young (43) and single and frankly, I like my (perfectly ordinary) breasts the way they are. It might sound a bit odd to other people, but I want to enjoy my intact breasts for a few more years, especially since I might have to let them go at some point.
I realize that since I don't have kids, this is probably not very helpful to you. When I got my BRCA2 results, the gene counselor gave me the name of a therapist that I could see who specialized in women making decisions like ours. ( I didn't take her up on it, but I might at a later point.) You might find a conversation with a similarly specialized therapist helpful to you as you sort through all the factors that would go into your decisions about whether or not to have your ovaries removed, whether to have another masectomy, the timing of each of these IF you decided to have them done, etc. I'm a big believer in not feeling rushed to act, of not acting out of a sense of fear or pressure.
Frankly, sometimes I think oncos are a bit too casual and hasty with the "Get rid of the breasts!" approach to breast cancer. I've had these breasts all my life, thank you very much. If they really DO have to go, I'd like to tell 'em good bye first, you know?!
Take good care, Colleen.
PS I am sorry that your husband left you for someone else. Ow. That would be really hard. A guyfriend of a half dozen years took a hike partway through chemo. Not thrilled about that, but that's life.But for what it's worth -- I'm going through this with the support of my friends (and my family, who are far away) and it's been OKAY.
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Dear Colleen, I am BRCA1. I had the testing done, along with my sisters after I got ovarian cancer and 10 months after my mother died from it. My sister had breast cancer in 1992. I had a complete hysterectomy at the time (2002).
I was diagnosed last fall with breast cance and at that time it was a no brainer to take both breasts. I knew that would be the case even before I met the oncologist for the first time. My thinking has always been that I will do anything I have to do to ensure that my children don't lose their mother. My youngest was almost 10 last time and is 15 this time around. The thought of my children has made my decision making easier. However, I haven't had to go through this alone. I'm sorry that your husband isn't there for you.
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Colleen -- Me again. Your question raised some questions in my mind. I called my gene counselor and was reminded that (I hope I have this right):
My BRCA2+ status does not influence my risk of recurrence; my risk of recurrence is similar to other women who do not have the gene mutation. And, lumpectomy+chemo+rads and masectomy are about the same.
My risk of a new primary (i.e., in other breast), however, is about 2-3%/year for the next 10-15 years. That's probably a high estimate, because it doesn't take into account me having my ovaries out or taking Tamoxifen. It also is based on shakier information than it seems, because the research and follow-up is really not there to state these things definitively.
FInally, she mentioned that different countries have different rates of masectomies. One possibile explanation is that surgeons may vary in how often and emphatically they recommend masectomies, ranging from PRO-MASECTOMY (in countries like the Netherlands and Germany) to NOT-SUCH-FANS of MASECTOMY (in France). I thought that was interesting.
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Colleen,
I am also BRCA 2+. I had IDC in March of 2007 and DCIS in March of 2008. This was a new primary and not a recurrence. I was one of those "12% risk of a second breast cancer within five years of the first." I had a mastectomy both times. If I had of known that I was BRCA+ I would have chosen to have a bilateral the first time out. On June 27, with the recommendation of my geneticist, I had a hyster/ooph. I now feel that I have done everything possible to live. I will do whatever it takes to remain alive to enjoy my children and grandchildren.
This is a very personal decision and one that only you can make. You have to be comfortable with whatever you decide. Check out www.facingourrisk.org. It is a web site full of men and women dealing with BRCA + results.
Best of luck,
Linda
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I just had the genetic testing done and got my results back Friday. I am BRCA2. I have already had a bilateral - after dx they saw calcification in the other breast that they weren't worried about "now" but I would have had to have a breast reduction anyway so that made my decision easier. I had already planned to have my ovaries removed because of the risk relationship between ovarian and breast cancer but my test results decided it. My sister, who was dx with BC at age 38, just had a total hysterectomy/ooph because pre-cancerous cells were found and she has had problems for a few months now. She decided that enough was enough. Good luck with your decision.
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I was diagnosed with BRCA2 shortly after a divorce, as well.Just when you think things can't get any worse. I opted for propylactic bilateral mastectomy and Hyster/Ooph with immediate reconstruction. I had them both done in one long surgery, and had to have the hysterectomy abdominally, not laproscopically. I can honestly say I have never regretted my decsion. I was up and walking two days later, home in four days, back to work in 4 weeks.
The reason I don't regret it? When the pathologist was examining my breast tissue, he found DCIS. So, I like to say I was treated and cured before I was diagnosed! To anyone wondering if they should have the prophylactic surgeries, I will just say I went from being terrified at the prospect to looking back and realizing how gosh darn lucky I am. And I can honestly say, I did not suffer any real pain. Yes, some things were uncomfortable & scary, but thanks to the Mayo Clinic and wonderful drugs, it wasn't as bad as my tonsillectomy!
My advice to anyone facing this? Go to a well respected major medical center, with a team of doctors who have been doing this together for a long time. Make sure they have done hundreds of these. Ask to be connected to a woman they have operated on to "mentor" you. You will need a team: Gyn/onc, general surgeon, plastic surgeon, radiologist, geneticist, psychologist and internal med to coordinate. Mayo Clinic was fantastic. Of my seven team members, five were female.That really helped. And when this is all over I'm probably going to look better than I did before the surgeries. I can even joke about it now, and you'll be amazed at the support you will get from female friends, and you may be surprised to find out how many other women have been through this.
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Thanks for all of your replys. I've done some serious thinking and I think it is a no brainer that I will have ovaries removed and other breast removed ASAP. I hate the thought of surgery again after having left mastectomy in 2004, chemo, radiation in 2004, reconstruction in 2005. I know surgery will be a little harder this time. I'm a little older plus a single parent this go around but at least its better than having to do the chemo thing again.
Colleen
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Coleen,
I was diagnosed last July with Breast Cancer. I had a lumpectomy then started chemo and herceptin in August. My mom had breast cancer twice and ovarian, so I had the genetic test. I found out that I have BRAC1+. After chemo, I decided to have double mastectomy with tram flap reconstruction on April 9th and hysterectomy on July 25 with more reconstruction. I was going to wait on hysterectomy, but I wanted to get it all over. Plus, cost less for me to have it in one year. It was hard to go through all the surgeries, but I am glad it is over. I am still recovering, but doing well. You will need help ...especially the first week after surgery.
Debbie
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