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  • KKing
    KKing Member Posts: 425
    edited July 2008

    Hey Sarah.... sending you good luck vibes.  Hope all goes well.

    HunkyD... good luck tomorrow.... hopefully no s/e's

     Just came back from Rad doctor... looks like I start in October..  doesn't sound like fun either.

    Have a good day everyone

    Karen

  • Wyoming
    Wyoming Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2008

    Hunkydory good luck with your TAC tomorrow. I have a blood draw tomorrow and my thrid TAC Thursday.

    Sarah think you will have no problems since you found the four leaf clover!!

    Grandkids look at me a little different since I have gone bald. They regonize my voice. They are such fun. They are my bright spot in all of this chaos of treatment.

    Talk to you later.

  • OneBadBoob
    OneBadBoob Member Posts: 1,386
    edited July 2008
  • Rovergirl
    Rovergirl Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2008

    Saw my onc. yesterday for our monthly meeting and reviewed my recent MRI results .... not only has my tumor shrunk but by 70% - yahoo!  Tomorrow is taxol infusion #9.

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited July 2008

    Excellent rovergirl!!!!!

  • sarahsewer
    sarahsewer Member Posts: 79
    edited July 2008

    Yippee!!!! My blood was wonderful and I am now the proud owner of a body full of poison! I am so relieved to have chemo half done. Now I just have to get through three post chemo stupors. I am up for it. I am sure my clover was the ticket. Perhaps I can hunt for more tomorrow. Tonight it is too buggy outside. As an added bonus, I got in and out in record time, blood work at 1pm and out the door at 6.

    When do most women have mid chemo MRIs? My new onco mentioned my getting one,  but didn't give set up an appointment.

     Wyoming- yup, my luck has changed. I wish you well with your day tomorrow. Can you hunt for clover beforehand?

    Rovergirl- Best of luck with your infusion tomorrow. Knowing that the nasty invader is smaller must be such a huge relief.

    HunkyD- Good luck tomorrow.

    Let's all drink lots of water!

    I am full of joy.

     Sarah

  • Gina_M
    Gina_M Member Posts: 294
    edited July 2008

    Sarah - So glad to hear you got your tx yesterday (same as me). 

    We don't do mid chemo MRIs here as a standard practice at all - so I'd love to have someone shed some light on why they're done and it it makes a difference.

    For all - a question about antibiotics and diarrhea.  During the last chemo stupor, I ended up in the ER with an infection and very low white count.  The docs put me on 2 antibiotics for 10 days - Cipro and Amoxi/Clav.  I started having antibiotic induced diarrhea on day 4 of the antibiotics, and took Immodium to try to control it.  I called in and the onc nurse told me not to stop the antibiotics, but continue to take Immodium.  When I went in for my day-before-tx blood work and visit with the onc, I was told to stop antibiotics (on day 9 of 10), and that if the diarrhea did not stop in the next day or two (as Dexamethazone and Zofran tend to cause constipation), then maybe I have C. difficile, which would need to be treated.  I just took a stool sample in to the lab and should get the results before the weekend.  Looks like no constipation at this stage for me, but have no idea what else is in store.  Anyone ever have or hear of this complication with antibiotics? Any advice to share?

     Many thanks,

    Gina_M.

  • cdccpa
    cdccpa Member Posts: 42
    edited July 2008

    Gina - About the mid-chemo MRI's (or PET/CT in some cases)...I believe these are probably done mostly for those having neoadjuvant chemo so that the docs can see how the tumor is reponding (shrinking!!) to the chemo.  Others may know better though.

    Sarah - As for the timing, I just had my third AC treatment and I believe my onc is planning to send me for another PET/CT in the next couple of weeks (had the first one prior to chemo) since she said it would be after three treatments.  I'll see her on 8/11 and find out for sure.

    Rovergirl - Are you doing 12 weekly Taxol following 4 AC?  I am curious because that is my protocol and I am really hoping the Taxol is going to be easier than the AC has been.  That is wonderful that your tumor is melting away!! 

    Carolyn

  • Elliemae32
    Elliemae32 Member Posts: 72
    edited July 2008

    Gina,

    The amox/clav (generic augmentin) biggest side effect is diarrhea but taking it with food tends to help most people. 

    I sure hope the diarrhea clears up on its own, you don't need a c diff infection on top of everything else.

    Ellen

  • quinda
    quinda Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2008

    Hi all:  I will be starting chemo around the lst of September.  Thanks for being here and I will be spending a lot of time getting tips from all of you.  scared to death about chemo.  Hear horrible things about it but I was so afraid of the mastectomy too and that was a piece of cake for me so off to still heal up from that then on to the next phase.

  • Wyoming
    Wyoming Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2008

    Congratulations Rovergirl!!!! We need all the good news we can get. 

    Hunkdory hope everything went well.

    Has anyone had any problems with the sweat glands under the arm that had the lymth nodes taken? I don't sweat under the arm that the nodes were taken but sweat like a stuck pig in the other. Plan on talking to onco tomorrow.

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited May 2011

    Wyoming, I am pretty tired tonight, went to bed after I got home,  and not really wanting to eat much.  Otherwise I faired OK.  I guess I havent noticed a sweating difference.  I just apply my deoderant and am very aware that my bad side is still quite numb under there.  My surgeon says that the numbness is not uncommon but I have no clue about the sweating.  To be honest I havent been out in the heat exercising as much as I should so I am not a very good test subject these last couple months.  Hope things go good for you tomorrow. 

    Sarah, I think I need to go hunting for some four leaf clovers and find a good use for them  HunkyD

  • Rovergirl
    Rovergirl Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2008

    Carolyn - My treatment plan consists on 12 weekly taxol infusions, followed by 15 weekly AC (oh boy!).  I am involved in a clincial trial which changed the order of the drugs plus added a investigational drug during the taxol portion.  I find taxol to be very tolerable and from what I read the majority of people find taxol easier than AC, although there are exceptions.  I just finished infusion # 9 today.

    Gina - I am getting neoadj. chemo and MRI is just a mid-assessment to see if the chemo is working and it is.  My tumor did not show up on a mammo or an ultrasound so the MRI is the best way to see the tumor.  Plus being involved in the clincial trial I am under going a series of tests - PET Scan, MRI, MUGA, bone scans - I've had so much radiation injected into me I think I'll glow in the dark.

    Rover 

  • BBLady
    BBLady Member Posts: 114
    edited August 2008

    Hi Everyone!

    I posted earlier, but apparently my post ended up somewhere in cyberspace.  Just wanted to check in with my good news and bad news update.  I'm day 7 out from tx#3 and have been doing so much better than tx#2.  My fatigue has been alot less and my nausea has been less.  But, of course the other shoe has to drop.  Today I started with diarrhea.  Eight days out from tx#2 I got diarrhea, told my onco about it and he said that it didn't have anything to do with chemo.  I saw him again today and told him it was happening again.  He started to tell me again that it wasn't the chemo, but I think two times at almost the same point in my cycle is too much of a 'coincidence'.  My blood work today showed my wbc was in the toilet - 1.5 - and I had a Neulasta shot on the day of my treatment.  Now I'm on Levaquin, and antibiotics tend to give me diarrhea, so now I'll probably have it twice as long.  Such is life with this horrendous disease.

    Otter - saw on a post that you're from Alabama.  I'm from Huntsville.  Where are you? 

    GinaM - guess we'll be keeping the Imodium makers in business.  Hope your diarrhea goes away soon.

    Thanks for being able to vent! 

    Hoping all your s/e's are mild or non-existent!

    Kathy 

  • Gina_M
    Gina_M Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2008

    Hi all - Tx2, day 4 for me today.  I gave myself that Neulasta injection on Wednesday and had a few aches and pains that I've managed with Tylenol.  My mouth is tender, but no sores at this point, which is quite a relief.  I'm rinsing it quite often and staying with soft food.  The nmouth sores were absolutely horrible with the last treatment, but muy dose was lowered by 15% and I'm hoping it makes a difference in side effects.

    Because of the fever on day 12 of Tx1, I was on three strong antibiotics for 10 days - causing diarrhea from about the 4th day on the antibiotics.  Took Immodium forever it seemed.  The last day of antibiotics was also the day of Tx2, and I still had diarrhea.  So - no constipation this time and no need for Colace or Sennekot - at least not yet.  The diarrhea is slowing down, and I'm waiting for lab results back on a stool sample I took in for C.Difficile.  Hopefully it is negative (I think it is, as I have not had any fever or other symptoms).

    I was a bit more tired when I got up this morning, but hopefully things will pick up today.  I've got about 4 hours of work that really is a "must do" at my home office, though I could put it off to later in the weekend if necessary.

    We've got our 15 year old godson with us for the next week (he came out from  Montreal yesterday) and my husband has taken him off for a 2-day trip.  So I'm alone for a couple of days, but so many of you handle things on your own that I'm sure I'll be fine. (DH hated to leave me alone during the "bad time", but I felt it would be better and less stressful for me if they were away.)

    Hope everyone is doing well!!!

    Gina_M.

  • KKing
    KKing Member Posts: 425
    edited August 2008

    Wow,  the diarrhea thing does not sound like fun... got to be careful so you don't become dehydrated.   Hope things change for both of you.

    Well gearing up for number 4... how time flies when your having ______  can't figure what word does fit.      Starting the taxotere... will let you all know how that goes for anyone that has to do this as well.

    Going away for a couple of days..   Take care everyone.

    Karen 

  • Wyoming
    Wyoming Member Posts: 381
    edited August 2008

    I haven't had diarrea, so I'm quite lucky.

    Have my 3rd TAC yesterday. Blood work was fantastic. Slept most of the day yesterda.Today a little tired and woozy from the drugs but feel over all good. Hope the next 3 treatments go as well.

    Good luck to everyone who has treatment and S/E.

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2008

    Hi Everyone,

    Had my 3rd TC yesterday and do not feel to bad today although I know more is to come lol.  One more TC and then they will maybe take a muga scan again which is of course the heart scan for anyone that does not know, and see if it is the same as it was or any better. If it is the same then I will have to have my radiation for 16 days and then on to hormone treatments. If the scan is a bit better then I will be having the herseptin which is the one I really need because I was her2+. The hormone treatment is just a second best. Oh well at least when I am finished my 4th and last of the TC nothing else will remove hair so in a few months or I am not sure how long it takes but my hair will start growing back will that ever be nice.  Does anyone know how long it does take for your hair to grow back would be nice to know.

    Sure feel sorry for all of you with the diarrhea problem, normally I have that problem so with my chemo it has seemed to have made that a lot better for me, another thing that has happened with the chemo that is a positive side is I had sorrisus on my legs and has cleared up a lot with the chemo.

    Everybody take care and hope you all have a good day today, the most we can ask for right now.

    Bonnie

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2008

    Seabreeze45

    Hope you are still on here sometimes, as I have not heard from you or seen any messages since you started your chemo and was wondering how you are doing with it. I have sent you a private message quite awhile ago with no response so thought I would try this. Hope to talk to you soon.

    Bonnie

  • Vinogal
    Vinogal Member Posts: 439
    edited August 2008

    Well.......back and unpacked from camping......what a great time.......I think Darien Lake will become an annual tradition in our family......the trailers worked out great........and the kids had a blast.....Wyoming.....glad you had a good time too........here's hoping all of you that had treatment this past week have a mild SE weekend.....good luck HunkyD.......I felt great for camping......but did develop slight diarreah.....not enought to stop me from doing anything......just mildly annoying.......not sure if it's an SE.......or just too much crappy food while camping.......we'll see what happens after my next one.....on Wednesday......that will be my last AC.......wooohooo......then it's on to Taxol.

    Rovergirl.......congrats on the good news........god knows we all need some of that!

    Sarah.......gongrats on being halfway there.....glad you finally got your treatment.

    Hope everyone has a fantastic weekend......it's a long one for us here in Canada.......is it a long weekend in the US?

    Cheers

    Jax

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited May 2011

    Happy Friday all.  I had my 3rd TAC Wednesday and am just now getting up and moving with the living.  Waiting for the neulasta shot pain to show up though.

    Glad you had a good time Vinogal.  Vacations are always fun but its always seems comfortable to get back home too.  Sounds like we have been having a small wave of diarrhea from a few here. No fun.  So far it hasn't been a real issue for me, at least not severe enough to hold me prisoner.  Hope that passes for all of you in the next day or so.  Immodium AD.  My husband says the AD on the end stands for "Anal Dam" 

    Hope everyone has a good weekend.  And Vino, no long weekend here.  Later! HunkyD

  • Gina_M
    Gina_M Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2008

    Hi all - For how long and what type of pain do you have with Neulasta?  I gave myself the shot on Wednesday and yesterday (Friday) felt really weak in all my joints and bones.  I have a prescription for codeine and took one this morning at 4 AM.  Still achy and now quite a headache!  What's your expereince with the length of time till the pain is gone?  I took Tylenon for Wed & Thur and it was managable but today it seems worse.

    Gina_M.

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited May 2011

    Gina, I have had the bone pain last as long as a week after the shot. Sometimes worse than others.  I also take something stronger when it is like that.  A hot bath sometimes helps me too.  Good Luck.  HunkyD

  • Gina_M
    Gina_M Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2008

    Thanks HunkyD - I actually feel a bit better this afternoon; managed to get up and walk on my treadmill for 4 miles.  But I am warned - the pains may come and go a bit.  I'm feeling so bloated.  I just picked up my mail today and had ordered some soft hats from a place called "Just In Time, Inc."  (www.softhats.com ).  I am so pleased with them - they are better than any I've seen so far - not expensive, really comfortable and they look good too.  I love my wig, but am afraid I'll wear it out if I use it all the time - I find the soft hats more comfortable than scarves. 

    Gina_M.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited August 2008

    I noticed that a bunch of you are having diarrhea while on Taxotere & Cytoxan.  I did, too, for all 4 of my TC cycles.

    The first cycle was the worst--I had mild constipation for the first 2 or 3 days, and it transitioned directly into diarrhea.  I had the "runs" until around day 10, but I only took Imodium for the last couple of days.  The worst of it was that I had a "scald" in a very embarrassing place, because of the diarrhea.  Desitin ointment was helpful for the scald.

    My onco suggested using "baby wipes" if I developed diarrhea again, to reduce the irritation and chances of scald.  I found some "Huggies" wipes that were alcohol- and fragrance-free.  They worked really well--I had no problems with irritation after that, even though I developed the same type of diarrhea at the same time during TC cycles #2 and 3.  Things went much better during cycle #4--  (TMI!):  It wasn't really fluid during cycle #4, and it only lasted for 2 or 3 days.

    It is important to be alert to the possibility of C. difficile, which can develop into severe colitis.  That's been reported in chemo patients on Taxotere.

    Bonnie02, you asked about hair re-growth after Taxotere/Cytoxan.  I'm 8 weeks out from my last (4th) TC treatment.  So far, the most exciting thing that has happened is that almost all my eyelashes have fallen out, and I've lost about half my eyebrow hair.  None of that began until I was done with chemo--it was about 3 weeks after my 4th TC treatment when the lower lashes disappeared.  Oh, and the hair on my forearms, which hung on tight throughout chemo, has been coming out for the past month or so; and my forearms are now mostly bare (no complaints there!).

    My scalp hair is coming back, but it's very weird.  I have zillions of tiny, thin, colorless hairs that look like peach fuzz.  They're too thin to even be bristly, but so far they stick straight up, which will present loads of fun in another month.  I've heard this first hair is like newborn baby's hair--it's not "real" hair.  These fine, colorless hairs will be replaced by "real" scalp hair, but I don't know the timeline for that.  The normal growth rate of normal hair is 1 cm (about half an inch) per month.  This is not normal hair, though--it's hair that has been "chemo'd", so who knows....

    otter

  • Bonnie02
    Bonnie02 Member Posts: 193
    edited August 2008

    Otter

    Thanks for all the lovely hair information I was hoping that it would grow back real soon with 2 months. I also still have eyelashes and eyebrows although I noticed that they are getting quite white looking which looks weird. Tried makeup but it makes my eyes run to bad. Have had a lot of problem with runny eyes............

    Bonnie

  • Wyoming
    Wyoming Member Posts: 381
    edited August 2008

    My BF who is a nurse suggest using Vaseline and baby wipes for diarrhea. This is what her office recommends for colonoscopies. If you have ever had one you know what diarrhea is, which I have. This tip really helps. Use at the first sign of diarrhea. Your bottom feels much better.

    Third TAC went really well. So far each treatment has gone easier than the last for me. Keep your fingers crossed it continues. I start back to work in Sept two days before my 4th treatment. I'm half way through. YEA!!!!!!!!!! If everything goes according to plan I should be finished with chemo in Oct. then start radiation in Nov. I don't know the duration of radiation yet but, should be at least 4 weeks, maybe more. I can't remember what my doc said. My memory is a little sluggish.

    Bonnie, I have my eyelashes and eyebrows but they are also getting lighter. My eyebrows have never been too dark so don't notice them so much. It takes more mascara then normal.

    Any suggestions on dry mouth? Some days I can't seem to keep moisture in my mouth, drink tons of liquids and eat things like grapes and watermelon. Can't seem to quench thirst.

    Have a good day!

  • hunkydory
    hunkydory Member Posts: 1,241
    edited August 2008

    Wyoming, any signs of neurapathy yet for you?  How about swelling?  Just curious cause I am on same trt and right along with you.  HunkyD

  • Gina_M
    Gina_M Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2008

    Wyoming - Biotene has some gum that works well for dry mouths, and there is also (believe it or not) some spray called "Moi-Stir"that provides aritifical saliva.  It's made by Pharma Science and it seems to work for me.

    Gina_M.

  • Rovergirl
    Rovergirl Member Posts: 194
    edited August 2008

    Hair Alert - my hair is starting to grow back ...... O.K. so it's 1/4 of an inch vs. an 1/8  but it's still hair and very, very blond ..... I used to be a redhead.    Although I know it's going to disappear again when I start AC in 3 weeks but I'm excited about the growth spurt no matter how long it lasts.  I have completed 9 weeks of taxol and have just now began to feel signs of neuropathy - pretty minor so far and my oncol. isn't going to change my dosage because it developed so late in the treatment.

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