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  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited July 2008

    Barbara, how washable is the Silique Comfort-lite? (And thanks, BTW, for the information and retailer contactSmile)

    Binney 

  • sam52
    sam52 Member Posts: 950
    edited July 2008

    Erica -

    I know we've talked about the PALS enhancers before;

    What I'd like to know is, as I've had a single mast, and would like to really enhance my remaining breast too (ie, go up a size), would it be possible do you know to order a 'mismatched' pair of enhancers?  Can I wear a PALS enhancer over my remaining breast ? So ideally, I would like to appear as though I had two B or C cup breasts, rather than my one A cup one!

    Thank you for a brilliant site,

    Sam (in UK)

  • cheryl58
    cheryl58 Member Posts: 182
    edited July 2008

    Barbara,

    I just got back to this topic now.  Chalk it up to chemo brain or something, but I forgot that I had posted on here. Embarassed  Anyway, I do need to say that I have not tried the Pink Bra yet.  I ordered my Lexie from Park Mastectomy.  If anyone tries the Pink Bra or orders the Lexie, let us know what you think, okay?  If I were to place a bigger order, I would use the Pink Bra for the $5.00 shipping charge....that is pretty reasonable, I think.  

    I just purchased a padded cami (underwear-type versus outerwear) from Walmart for $4.00 on the clearance rack.  I thought I could slit the sides and put my forms in it.  All of that worked very well, but it did not "hide" my concave, bony chest enough for my liking.  I wanted to wear it with a pair of sexy panties.  Needless to say, it is all trial and error, and the cami goes into the error pile.  I could still wear it with a blouse, but silly me bought the pink one instead of the white! 

    Yes, Barbara, I have to agree with everyone else.  Thank you for your tireless work on a wonderful site that helps us get back to "normal".  You are an angel !  (I still haven't forgotten all the help you gave me when I was first searching for forms and tank tops!)

    Take care,

    Cheryl

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    mthomp,

    No, I don't think you'd wear a 3, because I find that Airway forms run bigger than the Amoena forms to which I was comparing the Silique. My Airway form (Tritex Triangle) is a size 2, which I find to be equivalent to most size-3 Amoena forms. My size 2 is a little smaller than I'd like, so I have tried the Airway size 3 Tritex, but there was a big jump-up in size and I found that one a little too big--about equal in size to the Silique Comfort-Lite in a size 4 (which I originally tried, but also found a little too big). SO, if your SoftLite runs the same as the Airway Tritex, then I'd say you would need at least a size 4 in the Comfort-Lite and possibly a size 5. If you decide to order one, make sure you can exchange it if it doesn't fit.

    Sorry this explanation was so complicated!!! 

    Silique sent me a list of fitters who are currently working with them, where you could try the form in person. I may include it when I review the Silique forms on BreastFree. Meanwhile, if you want to PM me and tell me where you live, I could check and see if there's a fitter near you who carries these. 

    Barbara

    p.s. Another Silique Comfort Series form, the Comfort-Tex, is more like the Airway TriTex--no beaded layer, but fabric on the back to minimize perspiration. In that form, I would wear a size 4. It's a good alternative to the TriTex and can be worn in either pocketed or unpocketed bras.

    p.p.s. Just to be absolutely clear--I am recommending these strictly because I like them. NO kickbacks. BreastFree is NON-PROFIT and I plan to keep it that way. As I said in another post, I contacted Silique because I'm always on the lookout for new options. While Silique let me try several of their forms, I did ultimately purchase those that I liked. 

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    Binney,

    The Comfort-Lite is washable like other silicone forms--with warm water (not hot) and a gentle cleanser (I use the Amoena gentle cleanser because I happen to have it on hand). Because of the fabric back and the beads, it does take a while to dry (a few hours). The instructions say that, if necessary, you can use a hair dryer on cool setting, so in a pinch that would speed things up. I find that it's good to lay the forms flat on a towel because, with the beads, a lot of water collects inside during washing. Once most of the water has been absorbed by the towel, I make sure the front (silicone) sides are dry and place them in their cradles, where the backs can air dry. 

    sam52,

    I think that's a plan that might work with the Pals. If you can call from the UK (they're in California, so that would be a big time difference for you), I think that would be the best way to get the information you need--both info about whether they'd send you a mismatched pair and advice about what size combination would work best for you. (Just guessing, I'd say a Pals Push-Up with nipples might work as an enhancer, along with a Pals Triangle on the mastectomy side. I'm a 34 band width and the smallest size Triangle gives me a B cup). As you may have noticed, the Pals are quite inexpensive, so even if you have to buy a pair each of the Push-Ups and the Triangles, the total would be only about $70 U.S. and you'd have a backup pair. Also, if you mention you heard about them from the BreastFree website, they said they would take $5 off the price.

    Yesterday, I received my "custom" Pals--I wanted something a little smaller than the smallest triangle size. They're great--equal to about an A cup and very comfortable in my little Maidenform bralettes. Customizing them added $10 to the $50/pair cost--a pretty good deal!

    cheryl58

    Park Mastectomy is a reliable source, already on my site. Janet Park is very willing to help and very conscientious. Silique told me Park Mastectomy may soon be added to their list of online retailers.

    Thanks for your kind words. I don't feel I deserve them--I'm getting at least as much back from all of you as I'm giving. My husband is very excited about the prospect that I might surprise him by wearing some pretty lingerie one of these days! I think if it weren't for the community of women I've met here, I'd feel very isolated--instead we can compare notes and recommend resources to one another. And make jokes about it, which always feels good.

    Barbara 

  • mthomp2020
    mthomp2020 Member Posts: 1,959
    edited July 2008

    Barbara - thanks for the sizing info!  One of the on-line stores you listed has the for $134, and alllows returns, so I might just go ahead and order one and see how it works out.  My Airway form is comfortable, but I do get damp even with it in the pocket, so wearing it without a pocket is out of the question!  The Amoena foam form doesn't make me sweat, but I end up hving to put some fiberfill behind it to get it to match my breast - the next larger form was too big in the footprint.  The Silique form sounds like it might be just the thing, plus it's about $100 less then other climate control forms. 

    You're definitely an angel for getting all this information for everyone!

  • GrandmaWolf
    GrandmaWolf Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2008

    Erica/Barbara

    Thanks so much for  your recommenations.  I am new to this territory. It will take time to find my way, but all these suggestions help.  For most all my life I would buy a bra off the K-mart racks for $10, and keep going. So when friends try to cheer me 8 weeks after my bilateral by saying how lucky i am because I don't have to bother about bras anymore, I have to explain I have to bother more now than I ever had.

    I got my Pals today, but found by following their chart for a 38B.... I got a size too small, forgeting the point that the size chart was geared to someone who really did have a B.  I am left with just a 38 nothing...and need to order as such to make it a B.

    Fortunatly I did find a bra model that suits me just fine.  You know I am going to buy 50 of them so that is one less thing to think about.  Amoena Bella 2114 is simple and comfortable.

    I do keep checking the BreastFree website for information.  That site has been very encouraging and helpful along  my journey.

     thank you for your help

    dakota

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Dakota,

    I'm sorry the size was wrong for you,but I hope when you get the right size you will love your Pals as much as I love mine!

    Dawn

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited July 2008

    Okay, I think we covered this already, but I can't find it: are the Pals forms as heavy as the silicone ones?

    I've been reading about how you all like them, but I'm just wondering if the extra care of "dusting" them with cornstarch is pesty, and if they get...well...gooey if you forget or neglect the dusting.Tongue out If you wear them without a pocket do they melt into your skin in the heat? And if they leave greasy marks on your furniture if you leave them laying around (?), do they stain your clothes too? I'm having trouble picturing this, as you can see. So, do you have to dust them more than once a day? (I have this image of trying to find a private corner to remove them and do this, cornstarch puffing around in me clouds, the floor slippery from the stuff...) If they're not in a pocket are they slimey or sticky or ... ? Aaaugh! In one sense they sound lovely, moisturizing your skin and perhaps even staying in place, sort of, without a pocket. But in another sense they sound like they're on a par with jello. Or amoeba. Don't get it! Undecided

    Thanks!Embarassed

    Binney 

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    Binney,

    As I've followed this thread (which I started!) I've been struck by the degree to which finding breast forms that work is very subjective, depending on a variety of factors, like one's size, the nature of one's surgery, problems like lymphedema, individual esthetics, the climate one lives in, desire for convenience, sensitivity to weight, etc.

    The Pals form, which has some great positives, like its low price and realistic appearance, and which Dawn and others love, also has drawbacks for some of us. I know that Dawn finds them comfortable enough to wear pretty much 24/7. She wears the smallest Triangle made. On me, that form was a nice size B cup, but after wearing it for a while, it felt too heavy for me. So, the answer to the weight questions is that, yes, the Pals forms are as heavy as equivalent-sized silicone forms.

    After reading Dawn's enthusiastic post, I had Pals make me a custom pair of Pals Triangles, one-half size smaller than the smallest standard size. For me, the footprint and projection of the smaller form are now great and the weight problem is solved. BUT, I do find that if I wear the Pals for an extended time, I perspire somewhat and a little bit of the cornstarch "melts' onto my skin. I don't really notice it until I take the form off. It's only cornstarch so does no harm, but is a bit "gooey". The last time I dusted the Pals, I used a dry towel to wipe off any extra cornstarch--they still feel soft and smooth to the touch. I suspect that the next time I wear them, very little powder will "melt" onto me. They could, of course, be worn in a pocketed bra, which I assume would eliminate the problem.

    I noted Dawn's comment that she doesn't use cornstarch. So far, I don't see how that's possible. When I wash the forms in warm or cool water, they're very tacky to the touch unless I dust them. I wouldn't feel comfortable putting them against my skin like that and I feel like they'd stick to my bra. I hope Dawn reads this and comments.

    Regarding wood furniture, you're right--the Pals would leave a stain. When I got my original Pals, I put them in drawer and they left a mark on the wood (fortunately it was inside, so no big deal). They must be stored in or on a plastic bag. I've not noticed any staining of my clothes, though.

    Another thing--the Pals are infused with a slight vanilla scent. This is because they're a petroleum gel and otherwise would have a petroleum smell. They tell you that you can spray a perfume of your own choosing and it will take on that smell, if you don't like the vanilla.

    It seems as if the only way you'll know if these are for you is to try them out. FWIW, my husband loves the way they look and feel (very prominent nipples, BTW), so I've used them for intimate times and we both enjoy that. But, so far, I doubt I will use them as my everyday forms.

    Even the Silique Comfort-Lite forms, which I wrote about earlier in this thread and which I think have some fabulous qualities (realistic and soft, ultra-lightweight) have one drawback, which is that they are slower to dry than other silicone forms. Because of that, I wouldn't have them as my only form, or I'd have a backup pair. I haven't tried drying them with a hairdryer set on cool yet, which would probably speed up the process considerably.

    When I first had my surgery, I imagined I'd find one pair of breast forms and they would be my new "breasts". As it's turned out, I've found it best to have a few alternatives--silicone, foam, Illusions, Pals. But I'm still looking for that one perfect pair.

    Barbara

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited July 2008
  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited July 2008

    Thanks, Barbara!

    As always, very helpful!

    After your description of this, here's a concern I have with the cornstarch and lymphedema: cornstarch is a carb, so if you're warm and sweaty and there's cornstarch involved, you want to be real careful about the risk of a yeast infection, which with lymphedema could create a serious risk. No point giving the little buggers something to feed on that close to your compromised lymph system.Tongue out (We sometimes use cornstarch to relieve irritation caused by compression garments in the bend of the elbow, and the same warning applies. But elbow bends are rarely as sweaty as a chest with a prosthesis.) Just a thought, don't actually know how much of a risk it is.

    Think I'll stick with pursuing the Silique -- not sure in the desert that a slightly damp prosthesis isn't actually an advantage!Cool

    Binney 

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Dear Binney and Barbara,

    I'll try to answer your questions satisfactorily.  Binney, I'd say non-melting jello would be a fairly good description of Pals.  The front side does not get tacky on mine, but I do put a little cornstarch powder on a pillow and set them nipple-side down in it right after I wash them.  I do that one at a time and pat the front dry with a paper towel, very briefly, then I set it in the powdered place and wash the second one.  I follow the same process, then I leave them there while I shower.  I have found that the back side does stay tacky unless it is well-powdered.  It is that tackiness that I appreciate, however, because it helps them stay put pretty much where I want them.  I understand that Barbara does not like that tackiness, so I guess it is just a personal difference.  I do not sweat in them like I did with my silicone prostheses (even in the winter) (I live in OK, so it gets pretty hot here in the summer, which makes this a good test), and I find them to weigh less than my silicone ones.  They (silicone and Pals) both fill out the Amoena mast bras I had, but I am much more comfortable in camisoles with a shelf bra or sports bras, than in the mast bras.  I really like having the Pals stuck to my chest (they do come loose if I bend forward, so I do a little rearranging when I'm in the restroom, if needed).  I feel as though they are part of me, and I am content with how I look and feel for the first time since my bilat in May 2006.  I was concerned when they first came that they would cause me to break out or something, if I wore them too long, but as Barbara noted, I wear them all the time, and I've had NO problem whatsoever.  I guess it is the mineral oil that keeps the skin safe.  I have had problems with pain and itching on the surface of my right scar all along, and having a Pal on that site constantly seems to have helped the area feel better.  I am not sure a much larger size would work as well, either from a weight standpoint or the staying put, but I don't want big boobs. I just want some shape back, and while I didn't think I would like the nipples, I actually do.  I ordered the pink, however, instead of the two-tone, and I think that looks better for me.  I am about a 36-A with the Pals, and I am considering ordering a pair one size larger (36-B), just to see how they look, and possibly to wear 1 of each, as my left side is very flat to concave, while my right side still has fat tissue and projects the Pals more.  The difference is not usually noticeable, however, so I am actually quite happy with how I look.  In reference to Barbara's last comment, I never expected to find new "breasts", but I was very disappointed with my silicone ones, so I just gave up.  It was only after trying some light foam ones, after a year without wearing any prostheses, and then reading again about Pals, that I decided to try one more time.  I truly do feel as though I have found the breasts I want, and while I know they are not perfect for everyone, they are really bringing me a great deal of contentment and joy!  Feel free to ask any other questions, and I'll do my best to answer them.

    Dawn

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited July 2008

    Thank you, Dawn. Not only helpful and informative, but gee, it's SO great to read about how well this has worked out for you. I'm really happy for you -- with you. I absolutely love good news, so this made my day!

    Binney 

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Thanks, Binney!  I benefit greatly from all your wisdom on the LE board, and it is wonderful to get a chance to make your day!  I forgot to respond to one of your questions, which was about staining clothing.  I had wondered about that also, but I have not had any trouble with staining from either side.  As I noted, the front side is much less tacky (not at all after being powdered lightly), and that is what touches clothing, anyhow.  I wish you the best in finding something you are as happy with as I am with Pals!

    Dawn

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    Dawn,

    Thanks for adding all those details about the Pals. I like your idea of dusting just the front--I'll give that a try. Regarding weight, when I hold my Airway Tritex and my Pals, they look the same size and feel about the same weight, but it is true that when I put the Pals on, they have more projection, so in that sense they're bigger, yet weigh the same (if that makes any senseLaughing).

    Binney,

    I didn't know that about cornstarch, yeast infections, and lymphedema--something new to worry about (I don't seem to have lymphedema, but I'm always on the lookout). 

  • Raye99
    Raye99 Member Posts: 1,350
    edited July 2008

    Hi Barbara - Sorry to repeat myself - but I wear the Amoena Natura Light 2S forms in size 3, which has the gel backing. They are very very comfortable, I don't find them hot at all and I barely even know that I am wearing them.

    As for bras, I wear the very simple Amoena Jada 2149; I have black, burgandy and champagne. No seams, which I love with tshirts. The only drawback to this bra is the wide straps and I thank you ladies for your recommendations on other bras - I will definitely check these out - I like the idea of the pink bra.

    I've been wrestling with having recon (lat flaps with immediate implant placement) and am honestly frightened that my reconstructed breasts will not look as good as my forms. Looking at vacation pics the other night, my dad said, "Raye, I  like your new boobs better than the old ones." to which my mom said, POP, WHAT A THING TO SAY!  He is right though, they look so much better and there is no cancer in them!!!  

    Raye

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited July 2008
  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Barbara,

    My silicone pros are Trulife Harmony Silk Triangle and Harmony Silk Plus (for the left side, more concave).  I'll try weighing them later, but they do seem heavier to me,  Maybe it is because they sag, which would at least seem to pull more, or maybe it is because the Pals are at least partially stuck to my chest, which would make them pull less on my straps. I found that I was slumping more when I wore the Trulifes, as though they were pulling my shoulders forward, and that doesn't happen with the Pals.  With the Trulifes in a mast bra pocket, they would have had all their weight on the straps, while my skin is really doing a lot of the support on the Pals in my camis.  I know that I couldn't ever wear the Trulifes in a cami, because they pulled too much and slid beneath the shelf bra elastic a little bit. This is certainly a complex issue, and I don't have the answers, but since I enjoy solving problems, I'll keep trying to figure it out.  I love having someone else to help me think about it!

    Dawn

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    Raye,

    Your input is really interesting--I'm glad you like the Natura. I'm tempted to give it a try--you'd think I have enough breast forms (and you'd be right!) but as I said above, I'm still looking for the perfect form. It sounds as if Amoena's claim that Naturas stay cool is accurate, at least for you, so that's great. I don't perspire on my radiated side, but the other side can get pretty hot.

    I have one of the Jada bras and I like it, but it's a lot of bra for me--comes up a bit high under my arms. I wear it sometimes but not everyday. I do like the shape it gives me and I agree that it looks great under tee shirts. Anita makes some nice bras with thinner straps--maybe one of those would be a good alternative for the times when you don't want the thick straps.

    Regarding reconstruction, every time I think about it (Lat Flaps would be my best option, too), I wonder whether I could ever achieve two totally symmetrical breasts of exactly the size I want, which is what I'm able to do with breast forms. That usually stops that line of thought! 

    Dawn,

    I too love being able to compare notes with everyone here. I would feel so isolated if I didn't have this great online support group. Please continue to keep us posted on your progress with the Pals and other forms. I think the Harmony Silk is one of the lighter forms available, so I'm glad you find the Pals even lighter. Maybe you're right that the fact that they adhere somewhat makes them feel particularly light. Since you like that adhesive effect, maybe you'd also like one of the contact forms. Carol has both an Amoena and Trulife contact form and loves them.

    Barbara 

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Barbara,

    I have read about Carol's contact forms, but I've had trouble with most tapes in the past, so I was not expecting anything sticky to work.  That is part of why I've been so surprised with Pals.  It isn't an adhesive, so it is all right on my sensitive skin.  Besides, I was not at all impressed with the silicone pros.  They seem to sag in a way I was not happy sagging back when I had my own breasts.  Pals look more like what I had in my late 30s, and I like that!  I just wish I hadn't been so shy about showing a little cleavage back when I had some.  As my 94 year old mother likes to say, "We next to never know when we're well off!"  She's a wise one!  Thank you again for your website, which has been a tremendous help to me (and many others from the sound of it), and for your help here day after day.

    Dawn

  • Raye99
    Raye99 Member Posts: 1,350
    edited July 2008

    Barbara -

    You nailed it about the recon. I begin to consider the process and then think about my forms and how I feel they look nice and natural and proud and how would the reconstruction look? One never knows until its done and by then the muscle has been used, you've got scars on your back, etc. No going back w/o a lot of difficulty.

    I too, do not sweat on my rads side and do not really need to use deodorant on that side either.

    I will check out the Anita site - thanks. I agree again! I love the Jada, but it is a lot of bra - and you sound very small on top as I am - small shoulders, rib cage, etc., but I do love the bra and alas, just ordered two more for my yearly insurance allowance - so I am tapped out ins wise, but can always buy a bra or two for cash like in the old days before bc!

    Raye  

  • mthomp2020
    mthomp2020 Member Posts: 1,959
    edited July 2008

    I tried on the Jada, and it does come up pretty high under your arm, plus it does have wide straps, which I don't really like.  I've found anything that comes up high under the arm eventually bothers me.  Amoena has a new bra, I thinks it's called Lara, that has seamless molded foam cups and thinner straps.  It would look really good with T-shirts.  I tried to order one, but they're made in China, and due to the earthquake damage to the factory, won't be available until after October. 

    I have an ABC Petite T-Shirt bra, and it looks very nice under tighter clothing.  The straps are thinner, and the bra isn't bulky.  My other bras tend to hang lower on the prothesis side due to the weight, even with the straps adjusted shorter on that side, but this one doesn't have that problem.  The only real issue that is that I could use a little more coverage for the form, but it works OK.

    I'd love to try a contact form, but the silicone makes me sweat even in a pocket or cover, so I'm not a good candidate for them.  It would make it so much easier to find bras that work if I could wear one. 

    It's always an adventure finding what works best for you, isn't it!   

  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited July 2008

    Hi Barbara,

    Thanks so much for this thread and all your work and caring that goes into your website!  I'm brand new at this...........just had my bilateral masts on the 21st, so I'm reading and learning for when I'm able to purchase breast forms.  

    There was a question early on in this thread about gaping necklines and I had a thought I'd like to toss in here.   Several years ago when I got my compression sleeve, it was a type that had no stickiness at the top to keep it from sliding down.  So the fitter suggested a product called "It Stays" which is a Gentle Roll On Body Adhesive, that washes off with water and looks much like a deodorant bottle.  Information on the bottle states that it may be used to hold elastic stockings in place as well as with other apparel.  Also states that it is pliable and moves with the body.   It worked very well with the compression sleeve and might work on those gaping shirt problems too.  

  • Erica3681
    Erica3681 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited July 2008

    mthomp,

    I just looked at a picture of the Lara online. It looks really nice. Wouldn't you know it, that the production is delayed. But hopefully it will be available by late fall. I've tried the ABC Petite T-Shirt bra. It didn't quite work for me (gaped too much), but I think it could be a great option for some women.

    Sher,

    "It Stays" sounds like something that could be useful. Since my bilateral mastectomy, I try to buy tops that don't gap (I've had great success with Chico's travellers tank tops), but yesterday I wore a pretty scoop-neck top that I bought before the surgery. It looked fine, but I felt self-conscious about bending over. A little adhesive would have come in handy. I'm gearing up to add copy to my new "Fashion Ideas" section and will include your idea there.

    Thanks!

    Barbara 

  • sam52
    sam52 Member Posts: 950
    edited July 2008

    A question for you, Dawn, if you don't mind:

    When you remove the PALS form.....does it pull on your skin at all? I tried on a conventional 'contact' prosthesis once and boy did it hurt when I removed it. I notice you said you have sensitive skin.....but my scar area/chest wall still hurt after nearly 7 years!

    I would so love to be able to wear a breast-form that didn't need a mast bra, or maybe even wear no bra at all......would that be possible with a PALS form? I have a couple of dresses which really don't look good with bra straps showing.

    Thank you for all your helpful comments.

    Sam (in UK.........why are our locations now removed ???)

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited July 2008

    Dear Sam,

    I'm happy to answer questions!  When I remove my Pals, I simply bend forward with my hands under the Pals, and they release into my hands.  It does not hurt at all!!!!!  Pals do not stick with the same force as a contact form with some form of adhesive.  I haven't tried those, but I don't think my skin would appreciate adhesive of any sort.  Pals have a tacky surface on the back, so they stay fairly well where I put them in a camisole with a shelf bra, unless I bend forward, at which time they will eventually pull loose on their own, or if I lie on my side for a long time, they will slide "downhill" a bit.  Thus, they would not work without something to hold them in place. 

    I've never had good luck with strapless bras, but I think they would work in one, if it were comfortable.  I just never found one comfortable and willing to stay up where I wanted it.  I can imagine some dress styles that might be fitted enough in the midriff to hold the Pals up where they belong, but I don't own anything like that.  I am, however, very happy with camisoles and light-weight sports bras with thin straps, which support Pals just fine in the small size I currently use.  They certainly do NOT require a mast bra. 

    My primary sensitivity is in the axillary area on both sides, and along the scar on my right side.  Most bras do hurt my axillary areas, and that's why I just went without any forms for most of the past 2 years since my bilat.  At first even the camisoles hurt, but now they are quite comfortable, so I have seen some progress. 

    I guess the only way to know is to order a pair and try it.  $50-60 plus postage is not cheap, but it is much less expensive than silicone ones, which would run $300-600 a pair. And I would give it a couple of days to see how they feel, unless they are just very uncomfortable. I adapted to them almost immediately 

    If any of this isn't clear, feel free to ask more questions! 

    Dawn

  • sam52
    sam52 Member Posts: 950
    edited August 2008

    Thanks for your helpful reply, Dawn......I am hoping that PALS can be shipped to the UK - I am really looking forward to trying them out!

     I am currently a size 34A (hoping UK sizing is the same as US) on the one breast remaining; I would love to be a bit bigger....which size PALS do you think might achieve a 34B? I am hoping that I can use a pair of PALS to achieve symmetry, by using one to use create a breast on mast side, and one to 'enhance' the other side.

    Sam

  • jbau
    jbau Member Posts: 54
    edited August 2008

    I have a question about the Pals. I purchased a pair about 6 months ago and they seem to not be a s tacky as they were. They don't adhere to my skin and I've tried them in a cami without a pocket. Works fine until I bend over, then boobs on the floor! I hope I haven't damaged them in some way. They do feel and look good, maybe I'm not wearing a tight enough cami? What do you wash them with? Maybe I've overdone the cornstarch? Any ideas would be helpful.

    Thanks,

    Jennifer 

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited August 2008

    Sam,

    Have you been to the Pals website yet?  The product I am using is called Pals Triangles, which are sized to make a person 1 cup size larger.  I think the smallest pair, which I bought, is supposed to make a 34-B or 36-A on a flat chest, so I think that might work for you. 

    They also have other products - push-ups, raindrops, and teardrops - which sound like they might create the enhancement you want on your remaining breast.  If you were in this country, I'd suggest calling to talk with them directly, but I don't know what the international call would cost.  Their products do come in pairs, but having a spare pair might be a good idea, it seems to me. And remember to mention that you heard about them on http://breastfree.org, the site Barbara created to help us all who are breast free.  They told her they'd give a $5 discount to people who mentioned that.  (Go check out the pictures there, if you haven't already.  They helped me make my decision to order.)

    I am planning to order one size larger, just to see if I like the way they look, now that I've adjusted to having breasts again!  Also note jbau's (Jennifer) msg above.  I've been wearing mine for only about a month, so I haven't had this problem.

    Jennifer,

    That is an issue I haven't run into yet, as I've only had mine about a month, but I noticed on the Pals site that they do have a "lint-free felt bag" for storage, so perhaps yours have gotten some lint that absorbs the mineral oil, or perhaps you've used too much cornstarch on the back sides, as you noted.  I don't use any cornstarch on the backs, just the fronts.  Also, my camis are tight enough that if I bend down as far as I can, they hold the Pals in, even after they come loose from my chest. Then when I stand back up, they re-stick.  I just stood up and tried this.  I actually just wash them with running warm water, because I'm not sure most soaps would be good for them, and I haven't had any problem with odor or cleanliness.  I would suggest that you try washing them and only using cornstarch on the front side, and if that doesn't help, maybe try putting a little mineral oil or Vit. E oil on the back and rubbing it in.  Please let me know if any of this works - or not -, because I've gotten really "attached" to these Pals of mine, and I really hope they'll be around for a long time!

    Dawn

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