I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Anonymous

Beautiful Blue - stop wasting your time reading!  Think of your gorgeous grandchildren, imagine SPRING and your garden, snuggle with that warm greyish silky tummy, no, not Ray, WENDELL :-))) Do something GOOD for yourself, and not something that is just written to ANNOY cuz you read in that cesspool - pooh!  STOP STOP STOP ;-)  I'll bet if the lurking readers here learn you have taken a Vow of not reading, much of the vitriol would stop, or at least it wouldn't have digs at you.  Don't feed the sharks ( as we used to say in Washington DC, when someone was going to do something DUMB which might have made the "scandal sheets.")

Glenna - you are an inspiration!  So sorry, of course, that you've got to do this, but so INSPIRING it's working, and you are well.

Think it's so important we all have hope, and a sense that medicine is changing quickly, and the new medicines are going to work for us.  If it's denial, then that's the river DeNile I'm still gonna be swimming in. Sometimes it is SO true.  A dear friend was on the clinical trials for Herceptin so many years ago, I can't remember the dates!!!!!!!!!!!

pip57

Chickadee, E, Glenna....thinking of you all as you continue the battle with this f&:$@ing disease.  

bluedahlia

Charles E. Perugini 1839-1918

bluedahlia

bluedahlia

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kayfh

oh my Blue.  Those pictures while funny are eerily familiar.  Not that my DH is that crazy, but I do know some men/boys.......

pupmom

Cat people? 

IllinoisLady

Sunny....what great things to say.  Perfect encouragement. I do think many times things are said to inflame and to upset.  Maybe in many cases because the writer is upset.  I'm sure it must feel awful when you pretty much completely commit to Republican/conservative/Tea Party in one of these parts, or in all and pretty much constantly find yourself ( not the personal you's ) having so much blow up in your face.  Denial of reality comes in many forms....so I think finding an outlet for a lot of people in the way they use it, works.  The Koch Bros. get to add fuel to keep them going as well.  Hmmm.

I still see nothing but blue lines from the neighbors and once in awhile -- like the present conversation, I will peek over at the "pool" but I find it so very boring.  There is not much passing for reality and I guess to this day I still can't see what you get out of KNOCKING individuals on a personal level.  Then again....likely they are there for that very reason.  At least when things didn't work out here they had somewhere to go. 

Going to work later...and doing a bit of a marathon.  Extra work tomorrow and a small amt. on Sunday. Will help the paycheck abundantly which is really needed as there is an extra week between paychecks for me this time. Hopefully, I'll catch up again with the extra.

Jackie

Anonymous

jackie - I don't read the neighbors, well, I couldn't cuz it's all blue lines, but I think Beautiful Blue still reads the other website I was referring to in my post.  Don't know if it's still true, and don't care if it is cuz I still won't read it, but there used to be so much attacking in that other place of women who posted here.  I have no problem with people with extremely different political opinions, but the personal attacks of women who did or do post on this thread, that's not acceptable, but seems to be the raison d'etre of so many of the posters ( who thankfully don't post on this website) unless using different screen names than the ones they were banned using.

Blue - love the Pre-Raphaelite painters, and the second pic, of the women/model in the Valentine's Day Dress reminded me of Athena.  I still don't know how New York is having it's fashion week without her....ROAR.

QuinnCat

I've pretty much lost interest in those neighbors.  If I read, it was to study their thinking.  Their hypocrisy fascinated  me - e.g. how someone can get help financial help from the government for their breast cancer care, but then denegrate Obamacare.  How calling out people (and sometimes the same people getting $ for their BC) for being freeloaders while letting corporations off the hook for their freeloading - tax breaks, not paying their people a livable wage, polluting our water, etc. etc...  When the government provides those poorly paid employees supplementals so they don't starve or live on the street, while making minimum wage, via food stamps and Section 8 housing e.g., we are subsidizing the corporation's inadequate pay.  How do they not see that as freeloading?

Recently, there was a GOP townhalll held by Congressman Jim Bridenstin.  (wow- I just cut and paste!!! Thanks Mods).  Anyway, things were said in the audience that were just vile.  Like Obama should be executed.  The lack of reaction from the Congressman to that comment was beyond the pale.  It occurred to me, I've read things as bad over there and realize there is an element of craziness in our country.  Maybe it's a lack of education, maybe just hatred, whether racial or just ideological, perhaps they're brainwashed by their churches or communities.  It is not civil and it is not normal behavior, but it is fixed and will not change with that demographic.  I think they were always there, but picking on the black man, Rush Limbaugh, Mike Levine, etc., have made it acceptable to come out of the closet.   It is a sad commentary on the state of intellectual development in our country, though.  I do attribute it mostly to a lack of education and/or intelligence, at best.  Closed mindedness is so detrimental to growth and apparently civility.

QuinnCat

Continuing on the saga of the uninsured Obamacare hater who was going to get her lumpectomy for $899 per her surgeon and pay for it out of her own pocket because "Obamacare too expensive" (and the bottom line being that she hates Obama):

Her DCIS turned into 6 tumors of IDC. 

Her $899 lumpectomy turned into a $5000 plus BMX.

Her walkin walkout surgery turned into a hospital stay for $50,000.

Still waiting on her oncotype test (hmm, wonder if she knows that is another $3-$4k?) to see if she needs chemo.

Wait til she sees that chemo bill!!! 

No biopsy or pathologist bills - yet.  Another big surprise in store I think.

Wonder if she was offered a Pet/CT Scan?  $2000!!

And she thought the whole thing would be $899 a few weeks ago.

Now, here is the rub.  Obamacare was too expensive?  From my research, the best plan, at full price, did not exceed $950 a month.  If you chose that plan, presumably your income was healthy enough to pay that amount.  Your surgeon has lowered your bill to $1800 - who is paying that difference?  The hospital has reduced your bill to $20,000, but $12,000 if you pay now (Obamacare insurance alone would have paid for that reduced rate).  Hmmm, is that why the rest of us pay $50,000 plus on our bills?  The ones willing to pay for insurance?

A perfect example of "voting" against your own best interest.  Oh, and a freeloader.

Anonymous

Hi, Kam - my favorite giggle of the past few days, is the complaint that ACA is making people lose their jobs - what a LARK, it's giving individuals to leave work they may have hated, but kept at because they needed the health insurance which came with the job.  FREEDOM to move, to change professions, to not work for a while if you can, all good news.

suzieq60

Kam - and she smokes (I do as well but I'm insured)

QuinnCat

Sunny, and it will be spun in the most simplistic of terms and the idjuts will lap it up!  Totally understandable why the power elite such as Koch brothers are more interested in lowering their taxes versus paying taxes for free tuition for college educations.  Don't want the voters to be too smart.

The Obamacare hater has just found out about the Neulasta shot.  Shocking that it could cost $3,000 to $9,000 a shot!!!  Says she will now skip chemo, if need be.

QuinnCat

I forgot to add, they are robotic mouthpieces for the latest GOP talking points.  You know, the ones their pollsters come up with and teach their members to use in unison.  I think the turnaround time is about 24 hours max.

Suzie - really?

suzieq60

I think the chemo might be a wee bit more expensive than the Neulasta shot

QuinnCat

Suzie - I don't know.  I never really looked at my chemo bill too closely.  Besides, it was very confusing!  I know that I had to go 35 miles away to get a $9,000 shot of Neulasta at a hospital (our local hospital would only carry Neupogin).  My MO was 85 miles away, so I wasn't going to travel there the day after chemo.  Turned out I could order from my own health insurance pharmacy and have a friend give me the shot.  That charge was only $3200 for the meds.   Amazing how much that hospital was trying to make off that one shot!  I doubt they paid $9000 for the meds (the full retail).

Bren-2007

Hi Friends,

Just don't have the time to post like I used to.  I miss you guys.

I'm happier than a pig in sh-t!  I am up to a whopping $6 an hour.  My greatest goal now is to someday reach minimum wage!  Good thing I like doing transcription work.  Sure hope my two clients send me some work this weekend.  I need a little self-esteem boost.

Have something fun planned for tomorrow.  My mom is coming up to spend the night with me and we're going to the mall.  Belk is having their Clinique free gift with purchase.  I like to wait for the freebie to buy my foundation makeup as the freebie has stuff I will use.

sending love and hugs to all,

Bren

suzieq60

Kam - Herceptin was $75,000 for the 18 treatments here. I also never saw the cost of the chemo. Even though we are insured my out of pockets for the surgeon and rads were a lot - rads aren't covered under our private health but by the government once you reach a certain cost. Hospital and chemo/herceptin was fully covered thank god.

suzieq60

Bren - that is slave wages

pupmom

Kam, OMG! I would be embarrassed to admit I was such a fool! 

Bren, gotta agree with Suzie. There MUST be something better paying out there for you.

suzieq60

Off to the library and then groceries - Steve's 61st birthday today - his present is a 2 week trip to the Sth Island of NZ next Friday to play golf - me, I'll be back here working my a..e off   My present - 2 weeks of no cooking - Lean Cuisine here I come.

Had a heavy week at work programming (even though I'm supposed to be doing Analysis work now) - got really p'd off when I couldn't get something to work - finally solved it, but did do extra work at home because I couldn't leave the damn thing alone.

bluedahlia

If you guys really knew how thick my skin is, you wouldn't have any worries about what I read.  I love to laugh!

QuinnCat

Bren, it just grabbed me.  $6 an hour...even  @ $10.10 an hour, how many hours does it take to buy one Neulasta shot?   1500 hours at your wages.  That's 72% of a paid working year for one Neulasta shot.  Even at the proposed minimum wage.  43% of a year at the proposed minimum wage.  

Something is out of wack in our economy.

Chickadee

Good news, RO thinks she can knock it out in 10 sessions starting Monday. And no chemo change at this point from med oncologist. So all plans still go.

Oh that minimum wage, how many are old enough to remember $1.10. My first job at drive in movie theatre. 

juliaanna

My first job- nurse's aide $0.95 an hour.

Chickadee

Given salary growth in the last 40-50 years its hard to justify the minimum today. 

juliaanna

I have seen reports saying the minimum wage should be around $12/hour if it had been increased with the cost of living/salary growth.

Chickadee, Sending positive thoughts your way for effective treatments.

suzieq60

I really don't think Neulasta costs that much - I remember reading on here it was 1,000 not 10,000 - I think someone made a typo

When I was in high school I used to work all day in a variety store for $5 (not per hour - all day!!!) - that would be in 1970.

Shopping all done - Steve watching the present Annie sent him - Vikings - he loves it. I'm going shopping for printer paper - boring

gardengumby

Good news Chickadee, after very bad news.  Hope the good news continues....  

My first job was $1.50/hr.  My first job after I got divorced and was a single mom with 2 kids...  $4.25/hr.