I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Morning.....from southern Illinois and a heat wave.  It will actually get up to 37 degrees here though not much of a help with a lot of wind which will keep a "cold" wind chill with the upper hand.  Still, at least there is a bit of a respite from the brutal force going on the last three days or so.

    Monday -- back to the deep freeze.  This has just been a different and very horrible winter.  This was actually forecast for last years winter.....but it stayed quite mild then.  Sure doubled down this winter. 

    Al Roker showed a map this morning ( mainly of Kam's state ) and all I could think was wow !!!!!  It was so DRY, DRY, DRY there.....I think in some parts of Texas as well.  Even Texas though I think is slated ( parts of it -- I think more on the Louisiana side ) is due to get some of the bitter cold.   Too many states with too many changes. A very scary thing. 

    Hoping for better weather for everyone, dry where it should be and wet where it is needed as well.  With all of this going I'm doing a Hurry Spring dance for sure.  We have had Februarys with our windows open part of the day but sure don't think we will even come close this year. Just bbrrrr.

    Jackie

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2014

    Suzie - I had never heard of a British Blue before - charming.  I've always admired the Russian Blues, but I'm ready for a little color and curl right now.  In any case, those are still pure bred cats and I just ran smack dab into the "elite" breeder wall this week - my algorithm for choosing was proximity to me, nothing else.  Little did I know, those breeders really don't even "think" they breed pet quality and a show quality cat ONLY goes to another breeder - hopefully one destined to be a an "elite" breeder, because they would never place "their lines" with someone that deviated at all from their standards.  That is good for animal husbandry purposes, but it seems self-defeating if you become a breeder for breeders only - but I can attempt to wrap my head around this.  Where is the "spread the love" concept?   I had no idea.  Anyway, I was offered a kitty because it was missing one harmless color inhibitor gene, but was otherwise show quality, but it didn't speak to me (cause silly me thought there were 20 more lined up behind him, and I could have one with a spot on it's nose).  She thought I should feel privileged and I thought there would be 10 others to choose from.  Nope, not quite understanding that world, but learning.  I do have a deposit down on a kitten for June, with a less than elite breeder, but she's trying, so hopefully I will get a healthy kitten then.  Ready now, though and I might just find a cat, sooner, the more traditional way.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    Anybody else enjoying hearing Huckabee doom what ever chances he has for further political office.  Libido....awesome, just awesome, guess he enjoys the taste of his own toes....

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2014

    I think he dooms more than just himself.  As expressed this morning, Huckabee sounds more like a shock jock than someone that held the office of Governor.  It's what the GOP feels, though, and why they need training when they speak about women, immigrants, poor people, people of color, government employees, etc., etc.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2014

    Sunny, it's hilarious and really absurd. Huckabee demanding that women control their libidos for birth control rather than get bc from Uncle Sugar (wtf). OMG! Do they NEVER want to win a national election again? Sure seems that way. 

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    Hi everyone.  Sorry, haven't checked in for a while.  Been busy with some legal work and with trying, trying to get a draft of the novel finished before heading to California on February 11.  Also, great news, my DH and I went over our assets, and we think we can afford for him to retire from legal work in June.  He's miserable and under so much stress.  Life will definitely improve.

    The only legal work I'm doing right now is for other attorneys, so I'm thinking of closing shop up myself and concentrating just on the writing.

    the weather patterns really do worry me - I think we're seeing the effects of climate change in the droughts, even the severe cold, and it ain' pretty.  

    Enjoying huckabee's blunder, but not nearly as much as the sight of Chris Christie imploding.  Apparently, there are five witnesses that the mayor of Hoboken made contemporaneous statements about the christie administration's attempt to bribe her to approve a private project. 

    Everyone, stay warm and safe.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    I noted the Huckabee statements with the same impression as Yorkie......what a great way to insure you and your party keep dumping any credibility you might have.  Feel the same about Christie as I have from the first.  Almost clear back when he declined to run and Romney took his place.  Maybe he shouldn't have held back then......as now he made it not just for 4 years, but likely forever. 

    There is pretty much no one now that couldn't be dispensed with in short order.  Tch. Tch.

    Kam, the only person I know that got a really great cat out of a litter from a breeder.....goes to the same one, any time she wants a new kitten/cat.  She  gets Maine Coons.  And she always wants one that is a pterodactyl hopefully on both front feet at least.    I like them but also love Rag Dolls.  Most of mine though are un of the mill which is ok with me. 

    Jackie




  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    just as aside with a great kernel of truth.


  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    I got my cat from a breeder of Tonkinese, and he is the world's best cat.  I only say that because it's true.  She only has one or two litters a year, and they are very expensive, but they're great cats.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2014

    and don't forget... thESE are the same yahoos who say a married woman can NEVER say no to her husband... so what about his libido?  Oh yeah, sex is only for having kids so married women don't get birth control either, I guess. They're all wackos

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Kam - my Poppy is not bure bred but very pretty.

    image


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2014

    gg - doncha' remember dat guy who when being interviewed by Andrea Mitchell suggested "a woman could put an aspirin between her knees."

    I really thought she was gonna CHOKE! 

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2014

    Alexandria - when I was in college, my cousin bred Tonkinese.  Not sure she still does it as we've lost touch.  I remember they would be rather skittish with people they didn't know, but would sit on her shoulders most of the time.

    I probably would not have considered a purebred, but that horse has already left the barn.  My heart is set on a Devon.  I have secured one, but "it" will not be ready to come home til June (they're just being conceived).  In the meantime, I was looking for one all ready to go when I happened upon this one in Utah.  Oh well...I didn't show the proper amount of deference to her kitten, so that gift horse is gone now.

    Here's the conundrum.  My other cat is nearly 7.  If I get one kitten, I'm left with the same issue - one lonely cat in 7 or 8 years (hopefully). If I get two, not sure I can afford the Vet bills - I seem to have bad luck with cats, money wise.  If I get a 7 year old cat, then I will not what to do in 7 years!   I think, if I can avoid BC returning, I might have 20 years left, if I"m lucky.   Also, three cats, my gf says "you will officially become a cat woman." :)   

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2014

    I'm a bad girl!

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    Your gf is wrong.  My DD has 3 cats in a one bedroom apartment, but she's stopping now.

    Tonks are not skittish, at least mine isn't.  He loves everyone.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Hahahaha  Blue  Hahahaha

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Suzie....Miss Poppy is adorable.  I've never met a cat that wasn't.....or a dog, or a rabbit or a horse.  Well, that is the animal lover in me.  Had a lot more cats in my lifetime than dogs, but for many years when we were renters ( go figure ) they would let us have a cat and not a dog.  Cats can be pretty destructive but we got out of the dog habit.  Now we have too many of both but thank goodness we live out here in the wild and can do it.

    Jackie

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2014

    About skittish Tonks:  As we know, Tonkinese are a cross between Siamese and Burmese.  Having had definitely not-skittish Siamese and currently a definitely NOT-skittish Burmese, I tend to think Tonks are the best of both breeds --  beautiful and exceedingly friendly towards humans and other cats.  Of course, a lot depends on good and careful breeding, but seriously, both breeds are truly sweet!  we also have an Abyssinian -- overly affectionate and very dog-like, BUT she is definitely a one-person kitty.  Occasionally she will grace my DH with a lick on the nose!

    Suzie -- your beautiful Poppy looks like a real treasure!

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Jackie - Poppy is either British or Russian Blue origin - oh the soft fur - very special

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited January 2014

    My old boy is part Russian Blue and Gus is just a beautiful ginger moggy. Barney is a very superior cat but can be a real smooch when he wants to, SiL was so surprised to see him giving me kisses and wanting to be craddled like a baby; someting DS taught him. His fur is so soft and is still beautiful at 16. My DD's say I could easily become a cat lady.!!!

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Aly - see, boy cats are way more friendly - Poppy just follows me around because she wants food

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2014

    I've heard this about boy cats Suzie.  The thing I notice about female versus male cats, male cats rule outdoors, females rule the indoors!  They say male / female do best together - I have not noticed that!  I have seen male / male workout great.  I had female / female and had a semi-miserable 2 year introduction period.  After that, they coexisted quite nicely, but not affectionately with each other.  In the end, personality is a huge factor.

    Could be my cousin's Tonkinese were not well socialized, except to their owner, but she led me to believe that was their nature.  This was 40 years ago, so who knows, maybe they bred that trait out - afterall, they have about a 8 month lifecyle :)

    Off to the Portland cat show tomorrow, so I will report back on the Tonkinese ;)

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited January 2014

    Cousins have a Burman - he is beautiful. People up the road have two maincoons, now they are magnificant.

    I am watching cricket and will later on watch the tennis from Melbourne.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited January 2014

    Looks like the family won

    http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/us-pregnant-womans-life-support-to-be-cut/story-e6frfkui-1226810221985

    after reading the baby does not appear to be normal - right decision

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2014

    Suzie, thanks for putting that in here.  I'm hoping that the hospital does the right thing.  I never understood what could be right about a fetus who is living in a mother who is essentially dead.  How could anything remain truly viable.  I mean we might has well go to clones or anything else.  There is a line.....and it is just as much across one way as the other.  Sure each side sees it their way......but my sensation is -- no matter what else you want to say, if the mother was not on life support, what condition would this baby be in.  Not being cavalier --- but Mother Nature got us all here so in each and every case should we step in just because we can.  Should we condemn a fetus to -- who knows what, because we can.  If we do that......who is going to pay for, care for and deal with things.  The ones forcing it to be that way.  Oh well, lots of questions --- not so many answers. 

    Jackie

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2014

    I find this whole sad situation about Marlise Munoz confusing:  Apparently the legal definition of brain-dead is dead, and her doctors said she was brain-dead.  The Hospital, however, refused to declare her dead, and was keeping her on life-support to preserve her fetus.

    Well, you can't be dead, and also on life-support, can you?  The last I read, one of the lawyers who helped write the Texas law now says they didn't think of every eventuality.  No kidding......  It sounds very much like a case of anti-abortion emotions taking over common sense.  But then again, that's not so unusual, since the anti-abortion folks seem to only care about the fetus, and not what happens when it becomes a living, breathing human being.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2014

    It seems that the family should have the last word on this one.  Just common sense.  Keep her on, if the family wants to try to save the fetus, take her off if the family decides that the fetus is not viable or the odds or too long, etc.  I thought the Republicans were all for getting government out of individual's lives - I guess unless that individual has a uterus.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2014

    "Republicans all for getting government out of individual's live"?  Huh?  Just read that during the 2013 state legislative sessions, more than 300 restrictions to women's reproductive choices were introduced by lawmakers.  Now let me guess -- they were all republican lawmakers?

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